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Why I Reluctantly Will Endorse Mitt Romney [Why we reluctantly will zot]
Neoavatara ^ | December 30, 2011 | Neoavatara

Posted on 12/30/2011 6:12:25 PM PST by Neoavatara

My choice for President is Mitt Romney.

I just shuddered at that statement.

But there it is. There is the reality that 13 debates, months of bickering and intrigue, and countless discussions with conservative brethren have brought me.

It is kind of a sad reality. Is this the best conservatives could do?

So here has been my calculation for who I would support, from the beginning. First, the candidate must be electable and able to defeat Barack Obama, both electorally and intellectually. Second, they must broaden the base of the Republican Party, both on the conservative and moderate sides. Third, they must be economically intelligent and have a pro-growth plan that will overturn the Obama economic disaster. And fourth, because of the Obama experiment, they must show some executive level experience.

If you look at our current crop of candidates, the Congressional candidates (Paul, Bachmann, Santorum) all lack significant executive experience. Newt Gingrich could be argued to have some executive experience as Speaker of the House, but that is stretching the definition to the breaking point.

I think all of our candidates have more of a pro-growth plan than Barack Obama.

As for broadening the base, this is the one I had the hardest time with. For example, Mitt Romney. He would definitely appeal to independents and moderates who like a milquetoast candidate. Could he broaden his conservative wing? I think he could, but that is a hard slog for him. Could Newt Gingrich, who has years of baggage and is relatively well known, broaden his likability among moderates? Doubtful. Can Rick Perry overcome his stumbles and convince non-conservatives that he is intelligent? Unlikely. In short, I am not sure any of our candidates significantly broaden the party.

As for electability, as time has gone on, it is clear that Paul, Bachmann, Santorum, and Cain would have great difficulty defeating Obama, both electorally and intellectually.

So after all of that angst, you are basically left with potential candidates Romney, Perry, and Gingrich.

But after Perry's stumble after stumble in the debates, I can see him getting torn apart by Barack Obama in debates, in a style reminiscent of what Reagan did to Mondale. I really wanted to like Perry, but he has never risen to the occasion. His brightest moment was when he presented his tax plan, and he never showed another policy initiative as grand. And he still appears more a caricature than the man that longtime supporters of him describe.

The best qualified candidate of the remaining opposition to Romney is Newt Gingrich. All things being equal, Gingrich would get my vote. But all things are not equal. Every time I think Gingrich can leave his past behind, something comes up. He cannot seem to keep his mouth out of the way of his campaign. And he has been on top for about a month, and I am already fatigued trying to defend every new story about him. I can't imagine what another year of this would feel like. Gingrich, ultimately, is a paper tiger. He is the most well spoken of the group, bar none. But is he really a conservative? Is he, for that matter, even more conservative than Mitt Romney? I am far from convinced of this. And ultimately, he was the decisive argument for me between the two: while Gingrich's sacrifice of conservative principles largely came while he was in his own think tank with no outside pressures whatsoever, Romney's betrayal came while surround by a horde of liberals looking to take a piece of him at every turn in the most liberal state government in the Union. It is not an excuse for sacrificing his conservative ideals, so much as an explanation that makes far more sense than Newt sitting on a bench with Nancy Pelosi.

It comes down to this. I have been waiting for the better part of 4 years for someone, anyone, to show me to be the standard bearer of the Conservative revolution initially started by Ronald Reagan 3 decades ago...and these group of candidates have failed. I was waiting for a Mike Pence, John Thune, even a Jeb Bush to step forward and take the helm. They all took a pass, for one reason or another. And so we are left with the current crop of candidates, despite all of our objections.

The last debate in December was a sort of epiphany. That epiphany was that none of the non-Romney candidates was going to turn into Ronald Reagan. Ever. Maybe this wasn't an epiphany so mach as facing up to the reality. Oh, sure, there are a few Perry fanatics and Bachmann lovers still out there. They will probably hold on until the California primary. But both have stumbled too many times, and too consistently, to be considered serious any more. Bachmann's Politifact nonsense from the last debate was the last string for me. As for Perry, if he was this good in debates in August and September, he would be the leader. But it just seems to be too little, too late. Too many missed opportunities, with too much of his buffoonery now baked into the social consciousness. Santorum has never made the sale. And Ron Paul is...Ron Paul. Fascinating on pure market economics and libertarian views, but he lives in an alternate universe on foreign affairs. Jon Huntsman is a non-entity.

Almost makes you wonder if Tim Pawlenty, who was my early leader, left the race way too early, no?

So we are left with Willard Mitt Romney.

I know. My friends that read here will say this is a sellout. Maybe it is. But logically, without any knee jerk reactions, I don't see any way around this. I have for months begged others and myself to come to a conclusion that is different. But I simply can't.

But here is, ultimately my logic.

I don't think many people will rationally argue that Romney is unelectable. He certainly is. His record as governor is admirable for one of the bluest states in the union, and he has been in politics long enough to be adequately vetted.

Romney would likely pull a lot of independent voters. My really concern is, would he broaden the conservative bloc? I am far from sure about this. My conservative brethren have a deep and well developed distaste for Romney, and I am unsure if Romney can overcome it. But I think ultimately, our hatred of Mr. Obama's liberal policies will unify the right.

Romneycare is the biggest hurdle. Will Romney really stand for states rights? I honestly believe he will. I don't think he will ever be the opponent to government health care we want, so don't even propose such a thought. But our goal is to end the mandate on a federal scale. I believe Romney will be an ally in this small, marginal victory.

Economically speaking, Romney actually is the most well spoken and practical of the bunch. Although he does not support more radical reforms in D.C. such as Paul Ryan's Medicare plan, he also has a more traditional approach put forward, which would do a lot of good in rolling back Obamanomics. Romney likely would support a more radical conservative agenda for the economy if we can show there are votes in Congress for such a plan.

Furthermore, Romney has really show increased maturity on the campaign trail over the past few months. What was a wooden caricature earlier in the year now shows some humor, fraility, and joviality. His recent Fox News Sunday interview with Chris Wallace showed a comfortable, relaxed, and human Mitt.

Last, and certainly not least, we found under George W. Bush that even a relatively well intentioned President needs to be reigned in by Congress. A Republican Congress failed to do that for Bush...it needs to learn its lesson, and keep Romney on a tight leash. Without that, no man sitting in the Oval Office can be trusted completely.

So, after all that explanation, I endorse Mitt Romney. I am not happy about it, and can't believe it has come to this. And I am sure a lot of my friends on the internet will wonder if I have lost my senses completely. But Romney is a good man, a better man than the one sitting in the Oval Office by far. And if he wins the nomination, it is time for Republicans unify, even if it is for this flawed candidate.


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To: Bikkuri

Yep. I know a few people who are liberal on social issues but fiscally “conservative” so they think they are conservatives. We usually get into knock down drag out fights over social issues and because I tell them they aren’t really conservatives at all.

Interestingly, we moved from CA to the Midwest a few years ago (rural town) and the “liberals” here are more conservative than the “moderate Republicans” in CA.


151 posted on 12/30/2011 8:34:35 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is all about glory to self, not Glory to God. - which explains Mitt Romney)
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To: womanvet

I know, my dog is a cutee and a conservative, he would smoke Obama :D

But on a serious note, I agree with you about romney in every respect, and I feel similarly about ron paul. Neither of these people are anyone whom I would want to vote for at all ever.

However, should we face the unfortunate situation of having either one of them as our nominee, I will vote for either over Obama. I have to, it will make me puke, but I have to.


152 posted on 12/30/2011 8:35:14 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: piytar

I wasn’t picking on you, I was just not sure. I checked the posters history and yeah he was just a blog pimp.


153 posted on 12/30/2011 8:36:22 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is all about glory to self, not Glory to God. - which explains Mitt Romney)
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To: chris37

I’m not fond of anyone out their either, but I will not vote for Romney. Newt, probably, Santorum most likely, but I live in one of the later primary states so at that point it may not matter and I will vote AGAINST Romney both in the Primary and in the General.

I know too much about the guy to ever vote for him.


154 posted on 12/30/2011 8:37:55 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is all about glory to self, not Glory to God. - which explains Mitt Romney)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

When Mitt is elected President.. will ANYONE still be allowed to post on FR??

-0 - - - - -
Let’s make sure Mitt doesn’t get elected then...


155 posted on 12/30/2011 8:38:58 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is all about glory to self, not Glory to God. - which explains Mitt Romney)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

I have to wonder if due to the American education system putting out people too uneducated to realize that FR is a site for conservatives; will then (God help us all) “President Romney” provide their pathetically confused selves with an internet capable GPS able to direct them to a site like DU where their liberalism, unadmitted though it may be, will serve them better?


156 posted on 12/30/2011 8:40:28 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Neoavatara

I came to the thread somewhere around the 150 comment mark, to late to say anything that has not been said, so I will sum it all up for you...

Thou Fool!!!!


157 posted on 12/30/2011 8:41:08 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: reaganaut
- Let’s make sure Mitt doesn’t get elected then...

Well.. that would be cool with me.. but, I can read the tea leaves.

I just wish.. for ONCE in my life, I got a chance to vote for a candidate before the race in my party was OVER!

Screw Iowa AND New Hampshire!

158 posted on 12/30/2011 8:43:35 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: reaganaut

Your pictures are appreciated and you have the right idea for ZOT threads.

I’m starting to think we need remedial training for many VK to show how ZOT threads should be done. We need more graphics.


159 posted on 12/30/2011 8:43:54 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: reaganaut

I’d really love to see Santorum catch fire at this point. I may go ahead and vote for him here in FL. I’m nervous about his chances, but then again I’m nervous about everyone’s chances, especially my chances.

I am aware that a game is being played to give us a nominee that will spilt us and cause us to allow Obama to be reeclected, and I really, really want to avoid that scenario.

The only way I can see at this time to avoid that playing out is to say that I will vote for Obama’s opponent without regard to whom it is and without regard to my personal level of distaste for such person.

I do not want to, under any conceivable circumstance, give this commie homo muslim 4 years to do whatever he wants or thinks he can get away with without answer. That would be the end of us I believe. This is really a terrific hellish problem, but Obama has to go.


160 posted on 12/30/2011 8:49:35 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Neoavatara
Pretty stupid to waste your FR account on the support of one politician. Any politician. There are far more important political things to fight for than personalities.

But Mutt Romney?

161 posted on 12/30/2011 8:50:09 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better
If I have to chose between an anti-American, free enterprise hating communist and a gun grabbing semi-socialist, I'll chose the later.

You honestly believe there's any daylight between Obama and Romney?

LOL

162 posted on 12/30/2011 8:56:59 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ElectronVolt
People here aren't so tolerant of a differing viewpoint, it seems. ...it's just plain stupid to treat Romney as if he's the antichrist.

You're not paying attention. There's not a dime's worth of difference between Obama and Romney.

Keep up the concerned pro-Romney crap, and you'll be homeless on the internet.

163 posted on 12/30/2011 9:00:25 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Neoavatara

If you think TPaw and Mitt are the answer to our problems just go on vacation election day.


164 posted on 12/30/2011 9:00:39 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

- Let’s make sure Mitt doesn’t get elected then...
Well.. that would be cool with me.. but, I can read the tea leaves.

I just wish.. for ONCE in my life, I got a chance to vote for a candidate before the race in my party was OVER!

Screw Iowa AND New Hampshire!


Don’t worry. Mittens won’t be elected. He’s lost the hard core conservative base like me (us). If he makes it to the top of the ticket Zero will beat him like you have never seen before.

I expect Zero to beat him 10+ points.

I fell for the Rino and Conservative ticket last time. This time, I don’t give a shyt.. This ship is going to sink with Zero OR Romney in the wheel house. Let the correct party get the blame. If some how Romney wins it he won’t do what needs to be done. He’ll fight the conservatives in the house. He won’t cut 40+ % out of the budget, he’ll keep borrowing, he’ll keep spending, he’ll keep obamacare....

Romney is nothing but a plant from the democrats in our party. Do you think the democrats would EVER allow someone like Sarah to run in their primary?

I also agree that all primaries should be held on the same day. And they should be for party members only. The Dems always cross over when they can to help us pick our candidate.


165 posted on 12/30/2011 9:00:39 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: All

Mitt will never win the General Election. He is toast and the Dems know it. Just wait till the Dems start bringing out the difference between Christanity and Mormons.

What do the Mormons believe.
In Heaven and Hell. Well not exactly.
Celestial - Mormons in the Presence of God for Eternity
They go to becomes Gods themselves
Terrestrial - Saved non Mormons
Telestial - Glory but an Eternity without God - darkness

all three a place of Glory just to a lesser extent.

They supposedly believe there are multiple Gods with different universes/worlds with people living on these different world. But we only have to Join our Universe’s god.

The supposedly believe the Jesus himself was married to at least two wives(pologamy).

And that POLOGAMY will be practiced in Heaven.

Sheesh I must have missed that chapter in the King James Bible.

This ole Primitive Babtist wont ever buy into this bull and vote for him. I seriously doubt our more educated Southern Babtist well either. If so that take a major portion of the Christian from voting in the southern State. I would imagine the same response in the rest of the states with the exception of Utah and Idaho.

This possibly could put Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Alabama into play.

Rev 1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Nothing mentioned about other Gods or new Gods.


166 posted on 12/30/2011 9:01:53 PM PST by Bailee
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To: 50mm

I’m starting to think we need remedial training for many VK

= = = = =
Perhaps a correspondence course? Or an undead thread. LOL.


167 posted on 12/30/2011 9:03:17 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is all about glory to self, not Glory to God. - which explains Mitt Romney)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Tea leaves aren’t there yet. Tea is still brewing...Fight and don’t give up.


168 posted on 12/30/2011 9:06:30 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is all about glory to self, not Glory to God. - which explains Mitt Romney)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Stop it; you’re making too much sense. Can’t have that. The only comments allowed are from the yes men and brown nosers.

Chew on that a while, Saundra.

169 posted on 12/30/2011 9:06:45 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Neoavatara
Second, they must broaden the base of the Republican Party

Who the hell cares about broadening the GOP base? What the hell happened to standards and principles. I sell out every election cycle for half wits and morons in the General. Why in the world should I do so in a Primary? Good heavens. This makes no sense.

170 posted on 12/30/2011 9:08:31 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: cableguymn
Don’t worry. Mittens won’t be elected

I wish I believed you.. but, I don't.

I think, Mitt IS going to be nominated.. and, he WILL be elected...winning 40+ states. The ONLY thing that prevents it MIGHT be, a 3rd party run by Paul (ain't happening) or Trump.

I think.. Trump is just publicly negotiating with Obama for some Solyndra-style money. SHOW ME THE CASH= I'll run so you can win.

The way we elect Predidents is SO EFFED UP. How could ANYONE explain McCain winning a Republican nomination?? McCain??? Well.. here it comes again... times 2

171 posted on 12/30/2011 9:09:25 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: Neoavatara


Looks like meat's back on the menu boys!!!
172 posted on 12/30/2011 9:09:33 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Kinda makes one wonder where the money funding all these ‘blogs’ comes from don’t it?

Heaven forbid we get Romney. How fast can we assemble a viable 3rd party with a write in?


173 posted on 12/30/2011 9:11:18 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

You know how I know he won’t make it?

The MSM is quiet about him. The establishment wants him..

I honestly think the establishment, go along, to get along Republicans in DC like to be out of power. They just want the check and perks but don’t bother them with the responsibility.

Mittens IS Obama with nicer hair. He WILL get his a$$ handed to him once the MSM/Democrat (but I repeat myself) machine gets cranked up.


174 posted on 12/30/2011 9:14:59 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: iowamark
This Dole/McCain/Romney idea of “broadening the base” by moving to the Left never works.

Exactly. There are a huge number of independents now who are rightfully fed up with both parties. Reagan pulled in independents as well as many Democrats. All we need is someone who stands for the greatness of America and its citizens.

175 posted on 12/30/2011 9:15:01 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Beautiful!!! No salt even, though...

Isn’t it “didst”?

:-)

Good to see you!


176 posted on 12/30/2011 9:15:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
When Mitt is elected President.. will ANYONE still be allowed to post on FR?

IBTZ

You know you want it.

177 posted on 12/30/2011 9:15:50 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: reaganaut
Tea leaves aren’t there yet. Tea is still brewing...Fight and don’t give up.

Fight?? How? I live in Kentucky.. it'll ALL BE OVER before I get a chance to vote.

I sent money to Cain.. and, now Santorum. That's about the limit of my ability to "fight".

From what I see.. it's GOING TO BE MITT. So, I'm mostly serious when I ask: Will ANYONE be left here at FR when it happens?

178 posted on 12/30/2011 9:16:00 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: Bailee

Just wait till the Dems start bringing out the difference between Christanity and Mormons.

- - - - -
Bingo. The MSM WANTS Romney because then they will bring out every odd LDS teaching and doctrine (Garden of Eden in Missiouri, vegetables have spirits, blood oaths like the ones Romney took, the old oath against the US government). It will be a bloodbath.


179 posted on 12/30/2011 9:16:00 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is all about glory to self, not Glory to God. - which explains Mitt Romney)
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To: Lazlo in PA; Neoavatara
Who the hell cares about broadening the GOP base?

Reagan agreed with that.

Excerpts From Ronald Reagan's 1975 Speech To CPAC

I don ‘t know about you, but I am impatient with those Republicans who after the last election rushed into print saying, "We must broaden the base of our party"--when what they meant was to fuzz up and blur even more the differences between ourselves and our opponents.

It was a feeling that there was not a sufficient difference now between the parties that kept a majority of the voters away from the polls. When have we ever advocated a closed-door policy? Who has ever been barred from participating?

Our people look for a cause to believe in. Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?

Let us show that we stand for fiscal integrity and sound money and above all for an end to deficit spending, with ultimate retirement of the national debt.

180 posted on 12/30/2011 9:16:45 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Dr. Sivana
However, if the Virginia ballot stands, VA voters should vote Paul just to deprive Romney of the delegates.

I like that strategy, but Paul, being the nutbag he is, will think all the votes are really for him and not a protest.

181 posted on 12/30/2011 9:17:23 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: chris37

Your dog would be fine.

Romney would not. Just 0bomba in a mormon suit.


182 posted on 12/30/2011 9:19:10 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Windflier
IBTZ

You know you want it.

Beautiful.. so, now.. if you express an opinion that you think Mitt might win, you're ZOT material..

Thanks for making my point.

We can ZOT every person on the net... but, it won't change what's coming.

183 posted on 12/30/2011 9:19:55 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: Diogenesis

Diogenesis, you might want to check out this thread, and massmike’s comment with links about Romney’s support of the homosexual agenda. I just pinged it out now.


184 posted on 12/30/2011 9:23:21 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: reaganaut

Ahh... I’m just tired, disgusted, and depressed... Maybe, a few hours of sleep will cure what ails me..

Later..


185 posted on 12/30/2011 9:24:21 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: Windflier

I am not going to be drawn in to defending Romney, I’m voting for Newt, but he’ll, I’d vote for Bill Clinton over Obama. Obama is BY FAR the worst president in history. Bill would be too busy getting nobbers from interns to do the type of damage Obama would do in a 2nd term. I genuinely believe he hates what the America of of our founding fathers.


186 posted on 12/30/2011 9:24:29 PM PST by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (If you like the employees at the DMV, post office, SS office... you'll love government health care)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Why do you think Romneypuke will get the nomination? Just because a bunch of lying polls say so?


187 posted on 12/30/2011 9:27:23 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Neoavatara

Amen Brother. The only time we get to be full blown Conservatives is during the Primary anymore. I would love to see this carry on to the General this time. I’m not ashamed of it and I don’t see why others are right now. Screw Mittens and all the other half assed Conservatives and RINOs.


188 posted on 12/30/2011 9:29:27 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better

“I genuinely believe he hates what the America of of our founding fathers.”

Agree 100%.

Just as a random exercise, Look at the things coming out of Washington in the last 2 weeks alone and try finding a parallel in American history.

Just today... He wants to release a killer-of-Americans terrorist from Gitmo to better negotiate with the Taliban/Hamas/Fatah et all...

Is there anything “right” with that picture? Hell no. That’s brute force anti-Americanism.


189 posted on 12/30/2011 9:32:18 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Beautiful.. so, now.. if you express an opinion that you think Mitt might win, you're ZOT material.. Thanks for making my point.

Point? What point? That Mitt Romney, the big government liberal, is the inevitable Republican nominee, and we all might as well get used to the idea?

Get this through your head - Mitt Romney bears no resemblance to a conservative, or even an honest Republican. Examine his record. If you didn't know he had an R behind his name, you'd swear that was a Democrat, and a LIBERAL one, at that.

Not one vote has been cast in any primary, yet here you are on the most well-established conservative meeting place on the internet, demanding that this community stop being mean to good Mr. Romney, and let all his supporters and sycophants have their say, because, well, that's just civilized!

You can take that crap straight to hell, friend.



190 posted on 12/30/2011 9:34:38 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

I’ll still be here. I’m not voting for Mitt and I’m with the boss, I’ll move to 3rd party and let the GOP implode without me.

It is time for a revolution.


191 posted on 12/30/2011 9:40:39 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is all about glory to self, not Glory to God. - which explains Mitt Romney)
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To: Lazlo in PA
36 years later and Reagans words still ring true.

I'm hitting the hay. Have a good night.

192 posted on 12/30/2011 9:40:56 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: reaganaut

“If you feel that strongly than why vote for him? Obama = Romney.”

DISCLAIMER: “I’m voting for Newt”

Now my response... Because in a 2nd term Obama would be completely untethered, the damage he’d do would destroy our country as we know it. He wouldn’t have to worry about reelection and his radical Marxist ideology would be unleashed upon us like a category five hurricane.

Romney (WHOM I DETEST) would have to moderate his liberal views to some degree because at his core he is a political creature, a chameleon with a liberal bent. Obama at his core is a Marxist who despises the liberty and free enterprise system that our great country was founded upon.

DISCLAIMER: “I’m voting for Newt”


193 posted on 12/30/2011 9:41:54 PM PST by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (If you like the employees at the DMV, post office, SS office... you'll love government health care)
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To: reaganaut

In regard to the MSM, it doesn’t matter who the Repiblinan nominee is. They will attack him with reckless abandoned. There are lots of reasons to not like Romney, but the fact that the MSM will attack his religion (and they will) isn’t one of them. They will go after the republican nominee viciously regardless of who it is.


194 posted on 12/30/2011 9:48:06 PM PST by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (If you like the employees at the DMV, post office, SS office... you'll love government health care)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better

I’m in one of the later primary states so I may have to vote for Newt in the Primary, but my first choice is Santorum at the moment. But I will not let Romney win without a real, serious fight.

If Romney get the nomination, I am out of the GOP. They will have become completely irrelevant.


195 posted on 12/30/2011 9:55:25 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is all about glory to self, not Glory to God. - which explains Mitt Romney)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better

Yes they will. However Mitt’s religion is a real achilles heel and they will exploit that. It is a big part of why they have been soft on him and want him as the nominee. There is no way Mitt can win, not with what they will bring out.


196 posted on 12/30/2011 9:57:05 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is all about glory to self, not Glory to God. - which explains Mitt Romney)
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To: reaganaut

I left the GOP when Bush Sr. raised taxes. The GOP hasn’t represented my strong fiscal conservatism in a long time.


197 posted on 12/30/2011 10:00:05 PM PST by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (If you like the employees at the DMV, post office, SS office... you'll love government health care)
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To: Neoavatara

Why in the hell are you posting your surrender here on FR?You dont belong here with your support of obama light.


198 posted on 12/30/2011 10:03:15 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: reaganaut

“However Mitt’s religion is a real achilles heel and they will exploit that. It is a big part of why they have been soft on him and want him as the nominee. There is no way Mitt can win, not with what they will bring out.”

Your arguement is well reasoned, and you may be right. But after the restlessness with which I saw the MSM destroy Bush’s presidency, and their orgasmic love for Obama; I simply believe they will attack ANY republican candidate running against him like we’ve never seen before.


199 posted on 12/30/2011 10:05:44 PM PST by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (If you like the employees at the DMV, post office, SS office... you'll love government health care)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better

Oh they will attack any candidate, I’m not disputing that. But the idea that Romney can win just isn’t viable. I used to be Mormon and I can give you a playbook of the crap the MSM will use. Mitt as the nominee is a much easier win for Obama. MUCH easier.


200 posted on 12/30/2011 10:16:50 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is all about glory to self, not Glory to God. - which explains Mitt Romney)
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