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Update on Lawsuit Filed Against Hawaii Dept of Health on Behalf of Virginia Sunahara's Brother
ObamaRelease YourRecords ^ | Thursday, January 5, 2012 | Dean C. Haskins

Posted on 01/05/2012 1:02:54 PM PST by Red Steel

Update on New Lawsuit Filed Against Hawaii Department of Health on Behalf of Virginia Sunahara's Brother, Duncan Sunahara
As reported here brother of Virginia Sunahara, Duncan Sunahara has filed suit against Hawaii to obtain access to Virginia's original long-form birth certificate. Dean Haskins of the Birth Summit lays out the details below. See the complaint here.

WAS BABY VIRGINIA SUNAHARA'S IDENTITY STOLEN?
Dean C. Haskins

As was previously reported, in October and November, we spent a total of 2 ½ weeks in Hawaii on an investigative assignment. It was at the beginning of that stay that we met Duncan Sunahara, a highly informed, but unassuming guy, complete with his signature coconut palm frond hat. He was a military veteran with an obvious deep love for his country.


Early last year, Duncan had become aware of some possible issues surrounding his late sister Virginia's birth certificate, and had spent quite a bit of time on his own trying to get his questions answered. As he related to us, it seemed he was getting nothing but a "run around" from the Department of Health, and the area hospitals. Oddly, it had been reported in 2010 that DOH Director, Loretta Fuddy, had claimed that no records existed for Virginia Sunahara.

Duncan knew that his sister was born in the same hospital that he had been a few years earlier, and that she was transferred to another hospital, but he didn't know which one (and his elderly mother could not remember). He had visited the birth hospital, Wahiawa General, and both Queen's and Kapi'olani Medical Centers, but was not able to obtain any information from them. We were able to help him procure all of the medical records from the day Virginia spent in Wahiawa General, and found that she was transferred to Kapi'olani, but Kapi'olani insists they have no records on file. It does seem odd that Wahiawa would have the records, but Kapi'olani supposedly does not (how much room could it take to store a roll of microfilm?). This certainly seems "convenient" for them.

When we visited the Department of Health, we weren't quite sure what we would find, since Loretta Fuddy had insisted that Virginia's records didn't exist. However, we were pleasantly surprised that Duncan's application produced several certified copies of Hawaii's new short form birth certificate (which they now absurdly call their "long form"). Upon closer inspection, we learned that the number assigned to Virginia's birth certificate is 151-1961-01180, and realized that, statistically, that number simply cannot be legitimate.

Now, here's what's wrong with that number: we all know that the last group of numbers on the "certificate" Barack Obama claims is his official record is 10641, and his certificate was supposedly processed on August 8, 1961. We also know that the Nordyke twins were assigned the numbers 10637 and 10638, and their certificates were processed on August 11, 1961. Virginia Sunahara's birth certificate states that it was processed on August 10, 1961, but the number it was assigned is 443 higher than the Nordyke twin whose certificate was stamped with the number 10637.

We know that there were 17,616 births in Hawaii in 1961, which shows a statistical average of 48 births per day. To arrive at the number now assigned to Virginia's birth certificate, nine to ten days would have had to have lapsed after the Nordyke twins' certificates were processed, but Virginia's processing date was the day BEFORE the Nordyke's.


To refute the ridiculous argument that birth certificate worksheets were pre-numbered, and clerks kept small stacks of them on their desks for processing, that is not only patently false, but also, by federal law, would be illegal. Birth certificate "worksheets" (what they call blank birth certificate forms) are kept at the hospitals, and it is there where the information is entered onto them. Once all the information has been entered, they are sent to the DOH, where they are processed using a Bates machine, which enters certificate numbers sequentially, and then the date of processing is stamped onto them. Basement bloggers who suggest otherwise simply prove their lack of factual knowledge with that argument (as if any further proof of that were needed).

We went back to the DOH the next day to try to obtain a photocopy of Virginia's original birth certificate, but were told that Duncan was not allowed to receive that (according to DOH rules). When we pointed out to Supervisor Jesse Koike that their "rules" were illegal, according to Hawaiian statutes, he told us that Duncan would have to discuss that with Dr. Alvin Onaka. We spent four hours waiting to speak with Onaka, who eventually instructed the security guard to throw us out of the facility (which seems to be outrageous behavior from someone with nothing to hide). Duncan also made several phone calls trying to make an appointment to see Onaka, but could not get him even to return his calls.

We then sent a certified letter to Onaka requesting the photocopy, and also included the relevant statutory information, and were informed in writing that we would have to take the matter up with Hawaii's Attorney General, which we did. The response we received from the AG contained the same deceptive misinterpretation of the statute, so, as a final step toward filing a complaint with the court, Duncan sent a letter asking for an estimate of how much it would cost for the DOH to perform the necessary research to copy, and send, Virginia's original birth certificate. No response was ever received from the DOH.

Having attempted every administrative procedure to obtain that to which Duncan is statutorily entitled, a lawsuit was filed on Tuesday, January 3, 2012.

Here is a video interview of Duncan Sunahara.


It is still unbelievable that, in 2008, our so-called media dispatched teams to sift through Sarah Palin's trash looking for anything they could find to discredit her, but did nothing of the sort regarding an empty suit Marxist from Chicago who refused to provide any substantive documentation regarding his eligibility. When the media and the politicians refuse to do their jobs, it is up to "We the People" to do it for them—and that is exactly what we are continuing to do. Please stay tuned, as we will keep you up to date on this case.

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If you would like more information about the Birther Summit, please visit our website often at www.birthersummit.org or contact Dean Haskins at dean@birthersummit.org.

http://www.birthersummit.org/news/73-was-baby-virginia-sunaharas-identity-stolen.html

Excerpted, More here, http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/01/update-on-lawsuit-filed-against-hawaii.html


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Education; Government
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; obama
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Once all the information has been entered, they are sent to the DOH, where they are processed using a Bates machine, which enters certificate numbers sequentially, and then the date of processing is stamped onto them. Basement bloggers who suggest otherwise simply prove their lack of factual knowledge with that argument (as if any further proof of that were needed).

"Basement Bloggers" would be Dr. CON, Foggy-OBots, Zotted FR troll EnderWiggins and et al....

1 posted on 01/05/2012 1:03:04 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Not to thread hijack or nothing, but RE:
 
"Basement Bloggers" would be Dr. CON, Foggy-OBots, Zotted FR troll EnderWiggins and et al....
 
I clicked that link - saw posts by Parsifal - clicked his screen name and saw his account is still active. I thought for sure he also got the zot. What happened? And - if anyone cares - you can see his last post was a sort of self-zot.
 
FWIW.BTTT

2 posted on 01/05/2012 1:13:11 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Ole Parsy went away by himself. He went to play over at TheFogBow.com.


3 posted on 01/05/2012 1:19:24 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Basement bloggers who suggest otherwise...

I threw that idea out there a while back before I knew about Bates numbering of the certificates, merely as a possible explanation for the sequence problems, but I wasn't trying to claim it was THE explanation or that I had all the facts. This fellow seems unnecessarily snippy about it.

4 posted on 01/05/2012 1:20:52 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel

Here’s my post from April 27, 2011:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2711204/posts?page=90#90


5 posted on 01/05/2012 1:23:15 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel

Here’s my post from April 27, 2011 about the “checkbook” notion:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2711204/posts?page=90#90


6 posted on 01/05/2012 1:28:32 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Red Steel

Next thing you know, Virginia is actually a Charles Calthrop.


7 posted on 01/05/2012 1:34:41 PM PST by Mashood
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To: Red Steel

Dean sent out a call for this to be cross posted - so I did, also adding the rest of the story of the trip in July 2010 by “Researcher” to Honolulu, where she was the first to contact Duncan and his mother. She (Researcher) also did ALL of the original legwork on the Virgina Sunahara research.

“Most of you know/recall that the Post&Email, and this blog,(myveryownpointofview) did several posts/articles on the research that we did into the Virginia Sunahara angle in July of 2010.

Basically it had been suggested that obama may have usurped a birth certificate number from an infant that had been born, then passed away, within the same time frame that is obama’s birthday. Ala Bill Ayers style. So we tried to look into it while Researcher was in Honolulu.

Long story short, back when our Researcher met Duncan, she did not tell Duncan that we were looking to determine if Virginia’s BC number had been usurped by obama. She had never actually planned to meet the Sunaharas, so that part of the research trip was spur-of-the-moment, and the decision to be overly-cautious was agreed to by all three of us. We felt the delicacy of the situation, and since Researcher was alone, we felt it best and safest to be very limited in the contact with Virginias’ family. And the line of questions.

We had tried several attempts afterwards to engage Duncan, and to have him consider a trip to the Honolulu Dept. of Health to request Virginias’ birth certificate, but he never responded. Because he had never responded, I felt it would be too risky for Researcher to travel back to Honolulu in an attempt to convince Duncan in person. Then WND made a call to Mrs. Sunahara (Duncan’s mother) in mid-May 2011, and she told him flatly that they had no interest in trying to obtain Virginias’ birth documents.

At that point I felt it was likely a lost cause to involve the family.

Then Dean met Duncan, and ......


8 posted on 01/05/2012 1:39:49 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: Red Steel

Ping!!!


9 posted on 01/05/2012 1:51:19 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Red Steel
There is a problem with the explanation of numbers in this article, but it does not change the validity of the charge.

Upon closer inspection, we learned that the number assigned to Virginia's birth certificate is 151-1961-01180, and realized that, statistically, that number simply cannot be legitimate.

Now, here's what's wrong with that number: we all know that the last group of numbers on the "certificate" Barack Obama claims is his official record is 10641, and his certificate was supposedly processed on August 8, 1961. We also know that the Nordyke twins were assigned the numbers 10637 and 10638, and their certificates were processed on August 11, 1961. Virginia Sunahara's birth certificate states that it was processed on August 10, 1961, but the number it was assigned is 443 higher than the Nordyke twin whose certificate was stamped with the number 10637.

Virginia's number, 01180, is not 443 higher than the twins number, it is 9457 LOWER. I can only assume the author is comparing 1180 to 637, which is actually a difference of 543, not 443. But in fact the comparison is between 1180 and 10637, a difference of 9457.

10 posted on 01/05/2012 1:51:19 PM PST by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Tatze

Then the “1” and the “0” are transposed.

Or “a difference of 9457” is even a more absurd difference in the document numbering by the state of Hawaii.


11 posted on 01/05/2012 2:04:17 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Tatze

They had a typo - the actual number is 011080


12 posted on 01/05/2012 2:04:38 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: Ladysforest

And yes, I am certain that it is in fact 011080 - before anyone calls me names :)


13 posted on 01/05/2012 2:06:22 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: Red Steel

If 151-1961-01180 can’t be her real number, whose number is it? What time frame does this number indicate? Who has 151-1961-01179 and 151-1961-01181? When & where were they born?


14 posted on 01/05/2012 2:09:35 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

With corrected numbers:
If 151-1961-011080 can’t be her real number, whose number is it? What time frame does this number indicate? Who has 151-1961-011079 and 151-1961-011081? When & where were they born?


15 posted on 01/05/2012 2:13:44 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

From the article:

“We know that there were 17,616 births in Hawaii in 1961, which shows a statistical average of 48 births per day. To arrive at the number now assigned to Virginia’s birth certificate, nine to ten days would have had to have lapsed after the Nordyke twins’ certificates were processed, but Virginia’s processing date was the day BEFORE the Nordyke’s.”

151-1961-011080 could be:

a/ number of *another dead person*

b/ number of a trusted and politically reliable person.

c/ Obama’s real number, having just swapped it with the Sunahara file number.

Option b/ would be safest, if a suitable person was born at the correct time.


16 posted on 01/05/2012 2:28:25 PM PST by Exmil_UK
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To: Red Steel

sfl


17 posted on 01/05/2012 2:58:41 PM PST by phockthis
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To: Red Steel

This is what I am confused about. Could someone explain please? Let’s say 10641 was really Virginia Sunahara’s birth certificate number. She was born on the 4th. Her certificate was processed on the 10th. The Nordyke twins were born on the 5th (?). Their records were processed on the 11th. Why then are their numbers, 10637 and 10638, lower than the number processed on the 10th? Isn’t this the same problem as with Obama? Am I missing something here?

Thanks!


18 posted on 01/05/2012 4:34:03 PM PST by Mimi3
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To: Exmil_UK

Option D:

Virginia was in two hospitals in less than 24 hours of her birth. One in a billion chance of this happening.

Hospital A sends copy of vital records with patient to Hospital B.

Nurses are dilligent. Very diligent.

Nurse from Hospital A sends BC to HDOH on day 1.
Nurse from Hospital B sends same BC data on day 2, along with Death Certificate. Both are legit in every way.

HDOH processes first BC, the one Obama eventualy steals.
HDOH processes second BC, along with first, stamps second BC as filed, but is confused, sets it aside. 10 days later, it gets stamped with later number, total confusion at HDOH.

Obama has Phone it in “Junk” that sits in limbo. Never gets a BC. Filed but never accepted, and sent to the News papers.


19 posted on 01/05/2012 6:09:02 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Mimi3
10641 and 11081 are both Virginia Sunahara’s.
20 posted on 01/05/2012 6:33:55 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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