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Posted on 01/05/2012 1:02:54 PM PST by Red Steel
Update on New Lawsuit Filed Against Hawaii Department of Health on Behalf of Virginia Sunahara's Brother, Duncan Sunahara
As reported here brother of Virginia Sunahara, Duncan Sunahara has filed suit against Hawaii to obtain access to Virginia's original long-form birth certificate. Dean Haskins of the Birth Summit lays out the details below. See the complaint here.
Early last year, Duncan had become aware of some possible issues surrounding his late sister Virginia's birth certificate, and had spent quite a bit of time on his own trying to get his questions answered. As he related to us, it seemed he was getting nothing but a "run around" from the Department of Health, and the area hospitals. Oddly, it had been reported in 2010 that DOH Director, Loretta Fuddy, had claimed that no records existed for Virginia Sunahara.
Duncan knew that his sister was born in the same hospital that he had been a few years earlier, and that she was transferred to another hospital, but he didn't know which one (and his elderly mother could not remember). He had visited the birth hospital, Wahiawa General, and both Queen's and Kapi'olani Medical Centers, but was not able to obtain any information from them. We were able to help him procure all of the medical records from the day Virginia spent in Wahiawa General, and found that she was transferred to Kapi'olani, but Kapi'olani insists they have no records on file. It does seem odd that Wahiawa would have the records, but Kapi'olani supposedly does not (how much room could it take to store a roll of microfilm?). This certainly seems "convenient" for them.
When we visited the Department of Health, we weren't quite sure what we would find, since Loretta Fuddy had insisted that Virginia's records didn't exist. However, we were pleasantly surprised that Duncan's application produced several certified copies of Hawaii's new short form birth certificate (which they now absurdly call their "long form"). Upon closer inspection, we learned that the number assigned to Virginia's birth certificate is 151-1961-01180, and realized that, statistically, that number simply cannot be legitimate.
Now, here's what's wrong with that number: we all know that the last group of numbers on the "certificate" Barack Obama claims is his official record is 10641, and his certificate was supposedly processed on August 8, 1961. We also know that the Nordyke twins were assigned the numbers 10637 and 10638, and their certificates were processed on August 11, 1961. Virginia Sunahara's birth certificate states that it was processed on August 10, 1961, but the number it was assigned is 443 higher than the Nordyke twin whose certificate was stamped with the number 10637.
We know that there were 17,616 births in Hawaii in 1961, which shows a statistical average of 48 births per day. To arrive at the number now assigned to Virginia's birth certificate, nine to ten days would have had to have lapsed after the Nordyke twins' certificates were processed, but Virginia's processing date was the day BEFORE the Nordyke's.
To refute the ridiculous argument that birth certificate worksheets were pre-numbered, and clerks kept small stacks of them on their desks for processing, that is not only patently false, but also, by federal law, would be illegal. Birth certificate "worksheets" (what they call blank birth certificate forms) are kept at the hospitals, and it is there where the information is entered onto them. Once all the information has been entered, they are sent to the DOH, where they are processed using a Bates machine, which enters certificate numbers sequentially, and then the date of processing is stamped onto them. Basement bloggers who suggest otherwise simply prove their lack of factual knowledge with that argument (as if any further proof of that were needed).
We went back to the DOH the next day to try to obtain a photocopy of Virginia's original birth certificate, but were told that Duncan was not allowed to receive that (according to DOH rules). When we pointed out to Supervisor Jesse Koike that their "rules" were illegal, according to Hawaiian statutes, he told us that Duncan would have to discuss that with Dr. Alvin Onaka. We spent four hours waiting to speak with Onaka, who eventually instructed the security guard to throw us out of the facility (which seems to be outrageous behavior from someone with nothing to hide). Duncan also made several phone calls trying to make an appointment to see Onaka, but could not get him even to return his calls.
We then sent a certified letter to Onaka requesting the photocopy, and also included the relevant statutory information, and were informed in writing that we would have to take the matter up with Hawaii's Attorney General, which we did. The response we received from the AG contained the same deceptive misinterpretation of the statute, so, as a final step toward filing a complaint with the court, Duncan sent a letter asking for an estimate of how much it would cost for the DOH to perform the necessary research to copy, and send, Virginia's original birth certificate. No response was ever received from the DOH.
Having attempted every administrative procedure to obtain that to which Duncan is statutorily entitled, a lawsuit was filed on Tuesday, January 3, 2012.
Here is a video interview of Duncan Sunahara.
It is still unbelievable that, in 2008, our so-called media dispatched teams to sift through Sarah Palin's trash looking for anything they could find to discredit her, but did nothing of the sort regarding an empty suit Marxist from Chicago who refused to provide any substantive documentation regarding his eligibility. When the media and the politicians refuse to do their jobs, it is up to "We the People" to do it for themand that is exactly what we are continuing to do. Please stay tuned, as we will keep you up to date on this case.
If you would like more information about the Birther Summit, please visit our website often at www.birthersummit.org or contact Dean Haskins at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Excerpted, More here, http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/01/update-on-lawsuit-filed-against-hawaii.html
There is a BIG message in the verse “and Jesus wept”
Those tears are a gift.
My mother lost my sister when I was three. One of my first memories...She never got over it. Eva only lived a day. The equiptment they had ordered that would have saved her life arrive the next week. Today she would have easily survived.
Life is precious.... My first grandson will be here in May. His mother has health issues and is being carefully monitored. Pray that Charlie will continue to thrive.
I noticed that discrepancy myself. Here's the most logical explanation: Just like the "short form" received by Duncan Sunahara was incorrect about the BC number, it also was incorrect about the processing date. If indeed Virginia was issued the same BC number claimed by Obama (10641), her BC was likely processed on August 11th, following shortly after the processing of the second Nordyke twin's BC was processed. Alternatively, Virginia's BC could have been processed on the 12th, but that is less likely. Assuming a Bates stamp system, Virginia's BC could not have been processed on the 10th.
Maybe there’s a clue here:
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I’ll keep him in my prayers. We have a couple that my husband married whose son, their third child, was born around 24 weeks I think. We were praying for them those last 2-3 weeks before he was born, that they would be able to hold off the delivery one day at a time, knowing that every day could mean the difference between life and death. He’s had several surgeries but they’re thinking he’ll be able to go home later this month.
Another couple that my husband married had the wife become very, very sick for unknown reasons right after the child was born. They were going to do an emergency hysterectomy, just took a brief moment for her to be able to hold her son first and then they took her to surgery not expecting her to survive. We thought we were gonna lose her for about a week. Mother and baby are both fine now; he’s 2 I think and they ended up not doing the hysterectomy. I don’t think they ever did figure out what made her so sick. I’m not sure whether I spent more time praying or crying that week.
Those little ones are just so precious.
At the burial of our daughter my mom said it so well, “Such a small box for so many hopes and dreams.”
Okubo said that the “date filed” was ALMOST always the same as the “date accepted” (when it was given a state file number at the HDOH office) for Oahu births and so the two dates were rolled into one in the computer system. Since they got a COLB it was based on the computerized system and we don’t know which date they had programmed in to be the “date filed” - the date the BC was received, or the date it was numbered.
For routine hospital births the HDOH office would just have to make sure that everything was signed and all the required fields were completed, and then stamp it. But an article printed in a magazine in Sept 1961 (IIRC) described that if there were discrepancies the HDOH and the hospital would work those out. The CDC’s 1961 Natality Report has a flowchart in it showing who was typically responsible for what, and it says that the state registrars were responsible to make sure that the record was complete and then number the certificate.
What I suspect happened is that the death certificate arrived at the HDOH within 3 days as required by law - which would have been by Monday or Tuesday, which is the same day that another Wahiawa BC was sent to the HDOH office. It is also the same “date filed” that is on Obama’s forgeries.
The death certificate was supposed to be cross-linked with the BC (as you can see on the death certificate) so when the death certificate came in they knew to be looking for the birth certificate to match it with. But there was a discrepancy because the medical examiner had wrongly put Tomiyo as the first name on the death certificate (which is why the name was wrong in the death announcement in the newspapers).
So even though they received the BC on 8-8, they didn’t number it that day because they had to contact both hospitals to find out which name was correct - Virginia, or Tomiyo. They wouldn’t have wanted to number the BC before that issue was resolved because once the file receives a number they have to go through an official amendment to the BC in order to change it. IIRC, “Researcher” said that Clara said there hadn’t been an amendment to the name on the birth certificate so the BC must have had the right name.
That took a few days to figure out and when they had that answer they numbered the BC.
So this would have been one of the rare cases where an Oahu hospital BC was NOT numbered on the same day it was filed, because the BC had to be matched with a death certificate and there was a discrepancy between the two.
My guess is that the death certificate that Duncan received is a fabrication. The legal requirements for the filing of both birth and death certificates don’t leave time for the name correction on the death certificate to have happened 24 days after the birth (IIRC the handwritten date on the DC correction was 8-28).
Obama’s people probably thought the “date filed” and BC# combination was unimpeachable on Obama’s forgery because it came from a real situation. But that real situation was also a very unique situation - where the child died and the name on the death certificate wasn’t right so extra time for clarification was needed. As Okubo implied in her statements, only a very unique situation would result in a “date filed” not being the same as the date a BC was given a BC#.
So that “date filed” and BC# make sense for a situation like Sunahara’s - a unique situation we would not know about except for the newspaper announcement of her death using the name “Tomiyo”. They DON’T make sense for a supposedly routine hospital birth at Kapiolani, which is what Obama tried using it for.
Couldn’t sleep so I get up and read this. If this doesn’t make you want to go to Hawaii and rip the door of the vault....
Every time I have a major issue in my life it always seems that somehow the Lord finds a way to help. I can’t tell how many times I have listened to my pastors sermon and just look up and say “how did you know?”
I have been motivated to keep at this for many reasons. I have been asked to give it up many times. After reading this I will never give up. Tomiyo has spoken.
Oh My! He does look serious, doesn’t he?
Tomio Sunahara standing in a field in the Maritime Alps. Champagne Campaign. Maritime Alps, France.
Winter 1944-Spring 1945
The attorney does mostly real estate and construction issues. How is he involved in this? Notice office is in bank building.
The attorney understands the law (and, more specifically, Hawaiian law). What does the location of his office have to do with anything?
Most attorney’s offices are in bank buildings so that’s irrelavant. I’m in RE and most RE attorneys I know have a ton more sense than the garden variety esquire out there :)
Im more involved in the NBC side...sometimes I’ll catch up on this side of the fence..there’s two groups on FR..the BC and NBC.
I just rediscovered my notes that confirm the timing of the death certificate’s arrival at the HDOH: Tomiyo Sunahara’s death was reported in the Honolulu Advertiser on August 8th. If the death announcements came from the HDOH, the death certificate for Sunahara had to have been in the HDOH office no later than Monday, Aug 7th, so it could be typeset for the Aug 8th newspaper.
So they had the death certificate first and would have been looking for the birth certificate to match with it.
This may already have been explained during the BC investigation but how are these certificates created? Is the certificate typed on security paper or is the page from the book copied onto security paper?
I only ask that because the hatching does not curve toward the binding like the filed lines do.
They are copied onto security paper. The copies made from microfilms (of the Nordyke twins’ BC’s, for instance) don’t have hash lines on them.
Thanx, I don’t know where you live but it is a beautiful day here in Hudson NH and I am going to enjoy it for a change! Give it a rest for a bit N...;>)
Was finally able to read through this thread without interruption. It’s really going to be interesting to see how all this is going to turn out once Duncan gets to court.
I’m no lawyer but it appears he has a strong case against HDOH.
The HDOH has been breaking practically every law in the book.
And if Sheriff Joe’s posse leads to a criminal investigation, the folks at the HDOH and elsewhere had better bail out on Obama and start making plea bargains for telling the truth because there’s gonna be mega dirt - enough to put a lot of people in jail for a very long time.
A criminal investigation would allow the computerized transaction logs to be subpoenaed, as well as every stinkin’ microfilm roll in that office. It would allow phone records of Abercrombie and Mike Evans, for instance, to be subpoenaed. Former HDOH Director Neal Palafox could be deposed, as could former Chief Elections Officer Kevin Cronin, former HDP officials including William Gilardy and Brian Schatz, Okubo herself, and WND’s informant from within the HDOH who reported when Obama’s forgery was placed in their files.
And that’s just a small taste from the Hawaii end of things. There’s also the social security business, the selective service business, the passport office business, the media business, and the business with the eligibility judges.
I used to want this issue decided by judges. I don’t any more. I want this issue decided by multiple juries in criminal trials of multiple people.
Juries of SANE people would be wonderful, but how many of those do we see in a high profile case?
Why would the health dept. be looking for the birth information to match with Virginia’s death certificate?
When they process death certificates, do they always match them up with birth records? If not, then why in Virginia’s case?
I’ve never seen a death certificate before with a birth certificate number on it. Is there something particular to infant deaths in Hawaiian law or health policies that requires them to match death certificates with birth records?
The name amendment is initialed and dated, so why isn’t the addition of the birth certificate number initialed and dated?
Since it is not initialed and dated, wouldn’t that indicate that it was put on the birth certificate along with the rest of the information? If so, then why isn’t it typed, like all the rest of the information on what we can see of the death certificate, including the addition of her correct name?
She wasn’t buried until late Sept., although she was born and died in early August. What’s the story on that?
She was first buried in Punchbowl Cemetery (same as where Stanley Armour Dunham is supposed to be buried, by the way).
Later, she was moved to another cemetery. Where was Virginia until she was buried, if she died on the 5th of August?
The fact that they didn’t announce her birth may be out of consideration for the family. We know that they got the death certificate quickly, because the death was announced in the paper shortly thereafter. Is it correct to assume that the birth record wasn’t made up because her birth wasn’t announced?
Of course, it may be a mistake to rely on those newpaper images. How do we know the microfilm wasn’t tampered with? Has anyone, over the past few years, seen a real page from that newpaper?
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