A Romney Nomination Means Independent Runs from BOTH Trump and Ron Paul? You Bet Your Sweet Bippy!!!

Reaganite Republican ^ | January 12, 2012 | Reaganite Republican

[Reaganite Republican]

If you weren't an adult (or were living in a cave) in 1992, I'm here to tell you that any independent run on the Right that pulls over 2-3% means four more years of Obama...
this election is way, way too close for us to allow anything like that to develop. (and some people wonder why I'm backing Newt).

Yes, a dissed-n-pissed Trump is a serious potential problem we just don't need... but that's precisely what we're looking at now. He's already bolted the party, has an axe to grind, and can easily fund a substantial campaign. The Donald wouldn't need many votes to torpedo Mittens, and would at minimum do some heavy damage to the RNC's golden boy in the run-up to November.

Recall that Donald Trump has repeatedly threatened to launch an independent campaign -think H. Ross Perot on cocaine- if the GOP 'picks the wrong candidate'.  He's also met and made nice with each and every Republican presidential hopeful save Romney, Paul, and Huntsman... in other words, any of the top three in New Hampshire and Trump's in. Since Mitt is the only one of them with a prayer of winning the nomination, you tell me who he's talking about.

But a Trump third-party presidential run would be a disaster for the GOP... and the nation, as Barack Obama would thereby be handed all the time he needs to finish pounding traditional America into smithereens.

Alas- it's kind of hard for me to get all over Trump for it when 

l largely agree what he's trying to force from the DC party establishment. I don't want him as president, but the source of the problem lies elsewhere:
he wouldn't be threatening to run if there wasn't a (highly effective) conspiracy afoot to pick-off Romney's challengers one-by-one.

In addition, a Romney nomination is the one single thing that

all but ensures an indy run (or damaging fight-on to a brokered Republican National Convention) from Ron Paul... great!  

An obstinate stand by this cult voter block could cost us dearly, since the Republican Party is in no position to just write-off major factions in an election of such dire circumstance
(vs. systematically-cheating opponents). This is likely what Sarah Palin was recently referring to when she warned not to marginalize or ignore the Ron Paul libertarians... hey, 

I'd like to see the Fed audited too-

Conservatives do need to all get on the same page- and quick. Any serious independent presidential campaigns on the Right -pushing divisions right on into November-
are exactly the opposite of what we need to save this country from the ongoing 'progress' of the Obammunist Left.

But who's to blame for this now-unfolding predicament? Those trying to force the GOP to listen to the TEA Party at long last...
or a GOP Beltway establishment hell-bent on ramming the unloved Mitt Romney down your throat?

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[Smokin' Joe]

Trump should make a cash offer to both Perry and Santorum to jump out before SC. 20mill to each might make it palatable to them.

Yeah, any potential president who could be bought out for 20 milllion wouldn't get a vote for so much as dogcatcher from me, ever!

[Trod Upon]

Well, completely detroying what is left of America probably would teach them a lesson. It might also teach you one about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[Smokin' Joe]

Remember, Perot started to run then pulled out when Clinton was doing well. Later when the polls suggested a problem with electing Clinton, Perot “had to get back in the race” and pulled enough R votes away so Billy Jeff got elected.

I also recall daddy 'read my lips' Bush was his own worst enemy, and made the grass roots support for Perot possible.

[Smokin' Joe]

Great idea, B

You prefer Trump's money (bribery) to our votes?

Nice...

NOT!

[Cordio]

Ron Paul as reported on the internet somewhere said that he would not run a third party because it could damage his son Rand’s political future.

[mcjordansc]

Trump likes the publicity that talking about a run brings, but will never walk away from his businesses to actually run.

Ron Paul will not run as a third party candidate because that would mess with Rand Paul’s future.

[CSI007]

I would happily vote for Trump if no other (REAL CONSERVATIVE) candidate runs third party.

The establishment GOP must be stopped. We make a stand here and now. The republic is dangerously close to collapse and BOTH the Democrats and Republicans are hell bent on taking us all down with them because of their power hungry ways.

[McGavin999]

Actually, a 3rd party run would probably be the only way we could maintain a republican house and possibly gain a republican senate. If Romney is the moninee, there won't be enough republicans going to the polls to vote down ticket. If there was an alternative to vote for, they would at least be able to make sure the republicans maintained the house and possibly gained the senate.

Yes, Bam Bam would be president but at least we'd control the house and senate, otherwise we lose all three.

[Theoria]

Of course; the siren call of a third party is because of the failure of our R and D elected officials.

Perot[anti-gun loon, etc] was absolutely correct about the National debt and trade back then. Today we suffer from only increasing such problems.

[Smokin' Joe]

Ron Paul might actually win the 4 way race.

Okay, now you did it! You mentioned the obvious and 'unmentionable' option.

If the GOP would back Paul, he wouldn't run third party (obviously), Trump might sit this one out, and Paul could collect the young people who thought Obama was a good idea four years ago (after all, they've been mugged, now). Might well translate into a GOP win.

Hobson's choice, really.

[Smokin' Joe]

Yes, Bam Bam would be president but at least we'd control the house and senate, otherwise we lose all three.

"King Bam-Bam" don't need no dam Congress, nohow.

Which is just part of why he needs to hit the bricks come November.

[beaversmom]

I don’t think so. I think Trump likes to threaten on occasion to get his name back in the papers and as someone else made the point Rand Paul is an up and comer in the Republican party and daddy Paul doesn’t want to torpedo his career, but who knows?

[McGavin999]

"King Bam-Bam" don't need no dam Congress, nohow.

Ah yes, but if we had the house and senate King Bam Bam could be introduced to a little ritual called "impeachment hearings".

Someone upthread mentioned if Romney is the nominee it will be McCain vs Obama all over agains only without Palin. Romney will try with Nikki or some other person (they never get that excitement can't be planned) but it won't work.

Yeah, people hate Obama, but by the time the DNC gets done with Romney and his past, the average voter will pull the lever for Obama or stay home.

[dila813]

I haven’t seen one democrat who says they are pissed off with Obama who said they would consider voting for a republican, no matter how progressive the republican.

These people are so brain washed by Democratic politics they can’t even consider the proposition that progressive republicans are pushing.

[Mozilla]

I’m for destroying the GOP if Romney wins nomination.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

It may be my paranoid imagination but for the last few days Boortz and Limbaugh seem to have developed an affection for Romney and are criticizing Newt a lot more.

It gets harder every day to know who to trust.

[vooch]

Romney is Obama lite

[j_k_l]

Romney CANNOT win a national election.

1 party, 2 party, 3 party......15 party....election. It does not matter. Romney will never do as well as McCain did.

[joe212]

In that case I would vote for Trump. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR McCAIN, I MEAN ROMNEY. I JUST WON”T DO IT. The establishment needs to be taught a lesson. We will never take the country back otherwise. If we are unsuccessful in taking over the Republican party, we must DESTROY it. No matter the pain.

Great Strategy. So far, we have Obamacare, Elena Kagan, Sonia Sotomayor to show for it.

Let's really teach establishment a lesson by giving Obama 4 more years, and a chance to appoint full 5 member majority.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

Have you checked out Romney's judicial appointments as governor?

Don't count on Romney to protect the balance on SCOTUS, he is just as likely to appoint flaming liberals as Obama is.

Romney is an urb from Massachusetts, he does not base his decisions on the same criteria a conservative would.

He is still defending his gun control record as governor, he sees nothing wrong with it.