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Rick Perry Zings Herman Cain [on Laura Ingraham's show]
ABC News ^ | January 12, 2012 | Arlette Saenz

Posted on 01/12/2012 11:19:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Looks like there’s a little war brewing between Rick Perry and former presidential candidate Herman Cain, who recently criticized the Texas governor’s depth and knowledge of political issues.

“I hope Herman doesn’t think running a Godfather’s Pizza is the same as running the state of Texas,” Perry said on Laura Ingraham’s Radio Show after the host played a clip of Cain’s comments and the Texas governor touted his job creation record in the state.

During an interview on the Fox Business Network Wednesday, Cain called Perry a “foregone superstar” who “wasn’t deep on any of the issues.”

“He started out with a lot of hoopla, and it wasn’t deserved, because the media, as well as the establishment, wanted to make him a foregone superstar as soon as he got in the race,” Cain said Wednesday morning. ”And he had to debate. People found out that he had very weak debating skills, in my opinion. He wasn’t deep on any of the issues, and this sort of thing.”

Perry continued to criticize Cain’s 9-9-9 plan, which became the platform for the former candidate’s presidential bid.

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......“He started out with a lot of hoopla, and it wasn’t deserved, because the media, as well as the establishment, wanted to make him a foregone superstar as soon as he got in the race,” Cain told Fox Business Network’s Don Imus Wednesday morning. “And he had to debate. People found out that he had very weak debating skills, in my opinion. He wasn’t deep on any of the issues, and this sort of thing.”

“You’re being kind,” Imus said.

”You know, I’m trying to be respectful,” Cain responded.

Cain suspended his campaign last month amid allegations of sexual harassment and a 13-year affair. His bid was also dealt a blow by a series of gaffes that brought attention to his lack of experience on foreign policy and other issues; among his campaign-trail stumbles, he appeared at a loss when asked by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel to critique President Obama’s Libya policy. Source

1 posted on 01/12/2012 11:19:55 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Shame he dropped out...he already found a running mate...


2 posted on 01/12/2012 11:27:51 AM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

Oh shut up and go away, Herman.


3 posted on 01/12/2012 11:29:44 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: jessduntno

I think Cain, Hannity and Luntz should take their act on the road.

They’ll be a hit on stage with Mitt Romney.


4 posted on 01/12/2012 11:30:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
So, irrelevant attacks nonexistent.
5 posted on 01/12/2012 11:32:20 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry’s ability to ignore the bait has been one his very weak points. He’s on a stage much larger than the round table in Austin and thus his quirks show up much quicker and to a much broader audience.


6 posted on 01/12/2012 11:32:24 AM PST by deport
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To: patriot08
Oh shut up and go away, Herman

999
7 posted on 01/12/2012 11:32:55 AM PST by novemberslady
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To: novemberslady

Cain was still a better overall candidate than Rick “Vulture Capitalism” Perry. When Perry finally drops out he can run as Hugo Chavez running mate in Venezuela.


9 posted on 01/12/2012 11:49:34 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“I think Cain, Hannity and Luntz should take their act on the road.
They’ll be a hit on stage with Mitt Romney.

Bingo! Birds of a feather, all of them.


10 posted on 01/12/2012 11:51:07 AM PST by CatherineofAragon
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I was a Cain supporter, even donated to his campaign.

It wouldn’t break my heart for Perry to drop out, though I certainly don’t blame him for sticking it out until SC.

My support of Cain had little to do with Cain’s understanding of political issues, and Cain himself admitted that in large and critical areas (e.g. Foreign Policy) he would have to substantially rely on others.

Perry has been a successful governeor for well over two terms. It is laughable to claim that he doesn’t understand at least the domestic issues.

For some reason (Twitter note by AZ operative?) Cain seems to want to blame Perry for the flock of floozies that trampled throguh his campaign. To me, there are at least two more likely targets.

Even if Perry or his operatives were instrumental, it does a Cain no good to state something that

1. Is not true
2. Invites a comparison where he is unlikely to come out ahead.

I wouldn’t mind a clear field for Santorum, but I also would be okay with a clear field for Perry. Providing locker room bulletin board material is no way to promote a mature way to work out a counter to the Romney candidacy.

I am disappointed in Herman Cain.


11 posted on 01/12/2012 11:51:18 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Mo Udall of 2012.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm disappointed. For two reasons.

#1, Cain shoudn't be saying this stuff. To my knowledge he hasn't endorsed anyone. Sounds like sour grapes to me and does not speak well of him. Fact is, Governor Perry has run a very large state with a large and complex economy. He's in his third term there and is the longest sitting governor in the country and the longest in Texas histoyr. Clearly, millions of people in Texas like him, whatever other faults not with standing.

#2, Perry should not even respond. He should ignore this. If he has any hope of getting back in the race, he has much more important things to worry about. He should keep pushing jobs, his reduced term congress, foreign policy, etc.

Anyhow...a really wierd election cycle this...precisely when the GOP and conservatives need a very strong and well oiled machine.

12 posted on 01/12/2012 11:52:24 AM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry’s new ad “ CHAMPION “

http://www.youtube.com/rperry2012#p/a/u/0/d1l8byZvxg8


13 posted on 01/12/2012 11:56:02 AM PST by baysider
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
......“He started out with a lot of hoopla, and it wasn’t deserved, because the media, as well as the establishment, wanted to make him a foregone superstar as soon as he got in the race,”

OH MY GOSH, talk about hutzpah. Cain your so damn full of yourself it's pitiful and disgusting

“And he had to debate. People found out that he had very weak debating skills, in my opinion. He wasn’t deep on any of the issues, and this sort of thing.”

AND YOUR DEBATING SKILLS WERE? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. 9-9-9. Yes, lets' talk about deep issues, rofl.

14 posted on 01/12/2012 11:56:56 AM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie

Herman was thinking about Deep Dish Pizza , I suppose ....


15 posted on 01/12/2012 12:03:25 PM PST by baysider
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It would be nice if Perry would break double digits in SC and then graciaously bow out with a win.
What happens is they get a little bump and start thinking they can keep on winning.
Cain, whom I oriniginally supported, should just keep quiet unless he wants to endorse someone.


16 posted on 01/12/2012 12:03:31 PM PST by Leep
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To: baysider

Well, maybe, as that man certainly has a lot of sauce.lol


17 posted on 01/12/2012 12:07:53 PM PST by annieokie
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To: bigdirty

You’re dreaming. Your love for Cain has turned into obsession.

Cain never had anything to recommend him. No experience (except brief stint as pizza boss) no foreign policy knowledge AT ALL.

And he was mean and hateful from the start. He dissed Perry constantly and LIED about him.

I thank God for that last woman. She got the Cainster out of here and now he should just shut up and please go away.


18 posted on 01/12/2012 12:08:59 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: bigdirty
Cain was still a better overall candidate than Rick “Vulture Capitalism” Perry. When Perry finally drops out he can run as Hugo Chavez running mate in Venezuela.

If Cain was so good he wouldn't be on the sidelines doing commentary. And he's still talking about 999!

Anyway, looks like I'll be forced to choose between Mitt or Mitt after all.
19 posted on 01/12/2012 12:09:02 PM PST by novemberslady
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To: annieokie

“Well, maybe, as that man certainly has a lot of sauce.lol”

But the poor guy can’t count past 9 9 9 ! LOL


20 posted on 01/12/2012 12:10:25 PM PST by baysider
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To: Jeff Head

You may be right. I’m sure Laura baited him with the Cain quote. She is quite the nasty piece of work herself.

I suppose he could have said something noncommital like, ‘Obviously I disagree with Mr. Cain, but since he’s withdrawn, I won’t get into it with him.


21 posted on 01/12/2012 12:11:54 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; dirtboy; Liz; South40; miss marmelstein; fieldmarshaldj
“He started out with a lot of hoopla,and it wasn’t deserved,because the media,as well as the establishment, wanted to make him a foregone superstar as soon as he got in the race,” Cain said Wednesday morning. ”And he had to debate. People found out that he had very weak debating skills,in my opinion. He wasn’t deep on any of the issues,and this sort of thing.” PKB!!!!! Perry has all the depth of a Texas rain puddle in July!!!! Unbelievable.
22 posted on 01/12/2012 12:13:58 PM PST by rintense
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

omg, the cain people are back to gloat.

It’s okay. I could have gloated when their boy’s ugly past was revealed, but I was way too nice a girl.


23 posted on 01/12/2012 12:18:41 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Dr. Sivana
I was a Cain supporter, even donated to his campaign.

Sorry, but you basically spent your own money to help finance Cain's book tour. His campaign was never serious. He was never going to be the nominee. Herman was making it up as he was going along in order to sell books and build name ID so he could score a better radio or TV gig.

24 posted on 01/12/2012 12:21:58 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: altura

Rintense supports Santorum.


25 posted on 01/12/2012 12:21:58 PM PST by baysider
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To: baysider

Maybe now she does, but she was a cainiac back in the day.

What she mainly supports is coming on Perry threads and making nasty comments.


26 posted on 01/12/2012 12:31:01 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: baysider
hahahahahahahahahahahahhaha

. Lets help him. 9-9-9=27 that equals 9

add his 3-3-3= 9

9+9=18= 9

And there you have his 9-9-9 pan/plan,man, can't you see that? lol

other post was a disaster, rofl.

27 posted on 01/12/2012 12:33:03 PM PST by annieokie
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To: altura; baysider

Oh I see. You have no problem with Perry making ‘nasty commsnts’ about someone who isn’t even in the race, but you continuously whine about non Perry supporters making ‘nasty comments’ about) Perry.

You typify EVERYTHING that is wrong with the Perry camp. I honestly feel sorry for you.

Bay, altura and some of her rah rahs would have you believe that those of us who shifted support among candidates are bitter. But what they fail to realize is we’ve ALWAYS supported conservatism.

Which explains why so few have shifted to Perry.


28 posted on 01/12/2012 12:38:02 PM PST by rintense
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To: rintense

Get your facts straight...your man started this, but don’t let the facts ever get in your way...

“During an interview on the Fox Business Network Wednesday, Cain called Perry a “foregone superstar” who “wasn’t deep on any of the issues.”


29 posted on 01/12/2012 12:45:29 PM PST by baysider
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I very much supported Cain's positions, if not the man himself, until his own peccadilloes caught up with him; and I became finally convinced that there was some fire behind the smoke, or he would not have succumbed (would not have quit) to the last charges. I am convinced that was the case and not "concern for his wife and family" in the atmosphere of continuing charges of philandering.

With that, I cannot give any credibility of his criticism of any other candidate - "people who live in glass houses should not throw bricks"; which is a politically correct way of saying that Herman Cain's criticisms of Perry are akin to "the pot calling the kettle black".

30 posted on 01/12/2012 12:47:31 PM PST by Wuli
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To: deport

Those aren’t his only weak points, his ineptness on policy is just one of many.


31 posted on 01/12/2012 12:50:25 PM PST by montyspython ((Romney-Perry-Obama ... No Way))
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To: Dr. Sivana
"Cain seems to want to blame Perry for the flock of floozies that trampled throguh his campaign."

Correct, his campaign, as well as him personally, botched the responses to the ho brigade..

32 posted on 01/12/2012 12:50:39 PM PST by montyspython ((Romney-Perry-Obama ... No Way))
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To: baysider

True, but which one is in the race and in desperate need of support? Responding to Cain was childish. He should be attacking Obama AND Romney instead of these childish sidebars.


33 posted on 01/12/2012 12:52:03 PM PST by rintense
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To: Jeff Head

Agreed. Both sound like sniping children.


34 posted on 01/12/2012 12:54:53 PM PST by rintense
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To: novemberslady

“Anyway, looks like I’ll be forced to choose between Mitt or Mitt after all.”

No, there will be third choice.


35 posted on 01/12/2012 12:55:16 PM PST by ngat
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To: rintense; South40; miss marmelstein; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; fieldmarshaldj; PAConservative1; ...
Perry has all the depth of a Texas rain puddle in July. He came in with a lot of undeserved hoopla---throwing his hat into the race the same day Bachmann won the Iowa Straw Poll---stopping her hard-won momentum. For a nanosecond he was top dog then voters found Perry had very weak debating skills; the coupe de grace was when he called Americans "heartless" b/c they did not agree with his in-state tuition policies for illegals.

Now Perry's between a rock and a hard place----damned if he does---damned if he doesn't.

Perry did NOT campaign in NH AND FINISHED ALMOST DEAD LAST.

However, Perry DID campaign in Iowa---AND FINISHED ALMOST DEAD LAST.

----Perry spent the most money-$6 million,

----ran around in two campaign buses,

----held numerous campaign events,

---- glad-handed thousands of Iowans,

----ran non-stop ads touting his conservative credentials,

----trucked in 1000 Texans for groundwork,

----campaigned with California legislators and other high-level supporters

----AND FINISHED ALMOST DEAD LAST.

36 posted on 01/12/2012 1:01:32 PM PST by Liz
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To: baysider

Cain should have just faded away and kept quiet, however, his comments about Perry are pretty accurate none the less.


37 posted on 01/12/2012 1:01:59 PM PST by montyspython ((Romney-Perry-Obama ... No Way))
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To: ngat
No, there will be third choice

Which third choice?
38 posted on 01/12/2012 1:04:48 PM PST by novemberslady
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To: altura
"I thank God for that last woman. She got the Cainster out of here and now he should just shut up and please go away."

That's so wrong. You may not like Cain one little bit, but to thank God for these sleazy women with questionable stories that never produced a shred of credible evidence that Cain broke his vows of marriage, is beyond the pale. I expect better from you. They tried and partially succeeded in ruining a fairly good conservative, and you're thankful. Wrong.

39 posted on 01/12/2012 1:09:54 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: altura
"She is quite the nasty piece of work herself."

On that we agree. I can barely watch her when she fills in for O'Reilly. She asks a question and never stops for the answer, all in an extremely vitriolic manner.

40 posted on 01/12/2012 1:11:59 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Talk about defining “Zing” downward. I was excited about Perry when he got in like many but he just seems slow. A) don’t pick a fight with a non-candidate and B) if you’re going to “zing” then “zing!”

Now keep in mind I like Herman but I’d have used something like “I wish Herman all the best in his return to the private sector. Hold the sausage.”


43 posted on 01/12/2012 1:30:48 PM PST by sick1 (Don't fear the freeper)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Too bad they are both right.


44 posted on 01/12/2012 1:34:27 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: rintense

“He should be attacking Obama AND Romney instead of these childish sidebars.”

That’s exactly what Perry has been doing ...and doing it vigorously...attacking Obama AND Romney.

What has Cain been doing ? Attacking Perry.


45 posted on 01/12/2012 1:55:05 PM PST by baysider
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Cainiacs were definently rabid about Perry when Cain was in the race. Some still are and they attack and smear you all the time.


46 posted on 01/12/2012 2:19:52 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Well, I’m sorry if it offends you, but it’s what I think.

It wasn’t that woman’s fault that Cain had a roving eye and he admitted giving her money over the years that his wife didn’t know about.

I never liked him at all. He lost me when he called Perry a racist over the Rock. He lost me further when he accused Perry of leaking the story about the women.

He never had much to offer as a candidate and people here were so devoted to him it was sickening.

I am glad he had to step out and now he’s just continuing to try to hurt Perry even though he’s no longer in.

It may be a little mean, but if the women were sleazy, all that means is that he was messing with sleazy women.

It might be better left unsaid, but this last trick he pulled on Perry was just too much.


47 posted on 01/12/2012 3:03:26 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: baysider

Who CARES what Cain is doing! He is of no consequence.


48 posted on 01/12/2012 3:14:24 PM PST by rintense
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To: altura
"I thank God for that last woman. She got the Cainster out of here and now he should just shut up and please go away

You're thanking God for liars? Luckily for the rest of the country Perry supporters aren't very bright or honest, easy to pick out of a crowd.

49 posted on 01/12/2012 3:39:30 PM PST by montyspython ((Romney-Perry-Obama ... No Way))
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

altura is the board perrybot complainer, jumped on the Cain bashing train without vetting the evidence and was all too happy to join the lynch mob.


50 posted on 01/12/2012 3:39:43 PM PST by montyspython ((Romney-Perry-Obama ... No Way))
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