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Unless You‘ve Been Shot at by the Taliban ’Shut Your Mouth, War Is Hell’
The Blaze ^ | 1/13/12 | Becket Adams

Posted on 01/13/2012 10:32:52 PM PST by Impala64ssa

Rep. Allen West (R-FL), a former Army lieutenant colonel, sent The Weekly Standard an email commenting on a recent video depicting what appears to be four U.S. Marines urinating on the corpses of Taliban terrorists. The email reads as follows [emphases added]:

I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah.

All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq?

The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.

As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


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KEYWORDS: allenwest; marines; pisstaliban
Good for you, Rep. West! On a related note, here's the geo coordinates for Mecca; 21° 25′ 0″ N, 39° 49′ 0″ E Something to keep in mind whenever the need to "water the flowers" arises ;)
1 posted on 01/13/2012 10:32:58 PM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

Awesome.


2 posted on 01/13/2012 10:35:24 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ( It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.--C.S. Lewis)
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To: Impala64ssa

It is as it should be, all others need to run before they get pissed upon.

I actually believe this is really creating fear upon the enemy.

And that too is as it should be.


3 posted on 01/13/2012 10:41:10 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: Impala64ssa

WOW!!! A REAL MAN!!!!!!!!

Thank you Rep. West!


4 posted on 01/13/2012 10:42:44 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (I'm endorsing O'bama AND Romney as all my guys & gals don't make it very far. Go Barry! Go Mitt!)
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To: Impala64ssa
I agree with the honorable Rep. West except I would limit the punishment to that befitting a lapse in judgement. I would not find fault with the soldiers for their actions, only for their lack of discretion in filming it and making it public or allowing it to go public.

An opponent merits exactly as much respect and consideration as they grant us. Radical Islam has repeatedly shown they have absolutely zero respect not only for us, but for the very laws and religious tenets they claim to hold dear. Therefore according them zero respect is justified in my book.

I would happily purchase the libation of their choice for our soldiers to pour on the enemy dead - suitably strained through their kidneys...

5 posted on 01/13/2012 10:43:50 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Impala64ssa

There is an app for your smartphone for locating the direction of Mecca, very hand when either building the bathroom in your house, docking your boat or even your motorhome.

matter of fact the next time I fly i will see if I can time the direction just right as the plane is heading when I need to use the restroom. Gotta love those portable GPS units and these smartphones.


6 posted on 01/13/2012 10:44:21 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Patton would have joined them.


7 posted on 01/13/2012 10:44:21 PM PST by PastorBooks
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To: Impala64ssa; All

I wonder if this event occurred shortly after the Blackwater atrocity, or at an unrelated time. Of course Taliban types have committed plenty of atrocities of their own like the Taliban husband who cut off his teenage wife’s nose because she was disobedient.


8 posted on 01/13/2012 10:48:42 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Impala64ssa

And if you are a Taliban, keep running your your mouth ... just in case of a sudden shower...you bastards.


9 posted on 01/13/2012 10:51:48 PM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: Impala64ssa

And if you are a Taliban, keep running your mouth ... just in case of a sudden shower...you bastards.


10 posted on 01/13/2012 10:52:04 PM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: Darkwolf377

Add some pig blood to the mix.


11 posted on 01/13/2012 10:53:44 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk (People should enjoy the fruits of their labor. No labor, no fruit.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Right on! The scum.


12 posted on 01/13/2012 10:56:24 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: Impala64ssa
As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.

Amen. One of the most ridiculous and nonsensical "scandals" in recent memory. Hypocrisy abounds, and apparently pissing on dead bodies is now infinitely worse than killing people in the first place - even when we agree that they deserve it and that it's what war is all about.

13 posted on 01/13/2012 10:57:21 PM PST by MCH
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To: Impala64ssa

Certainly my sentiments. remember the Delta Force guys’ dead bodies dragged naked through the streets of Mogadishu? Was leon Panetta “outraged” about that?


14 posted on 01/13/2012 10:57:39 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Impala64ssa

Thank God someone with a podium stood up and spoke the truth. Kudos Lt.Col. West!

As I said on a prior thread RE: the Taliban and the ‘armchair quarterbacks here...
Everything he (terrorists) represents is evil. Everything he fights, oppresses and kills for is evil. You accept evil or deny it.
If a demon from the pit of hell rose up and was urinated on by a US Marine, I would fail to see the difference. Nor would I be disappointed.


15 posted on 01/13/2012 10:58:58 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Impala64ssa
Thank you, Col. West!

The politicians and media sitting securely in the comfort and safety of their cocoons need to get a grip.

Levin went on a full out rant tonight that needs to be replayed to these people.

16 posted on 01/13/2012 11:04:48 PM PST by berdie
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To: ThunderSleeps

only for their lack of discretion in filming it and making it public or allowing it to go public.
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Col West has it right on.
Funny, I didn’t hear it on ANY newscast or political venue.

As to punishment, a little restriction and a blanket party for the one that ‘published’ it.

I love it when these clowns who have never even been in the boy scouts jump up and down with ‘righteous indignation’ when warriors and combatants ‘have a moment’.

This incident just gives a new meaning to ‘relieving oneself’ -

Hell, we used to light fartz and although I at 18 more than likely would have thought it a good idea to take a whiz.(At the time).

Funny though, those wall street clowns can deficate in public, throw $hit bombs at cops and they are lauded as ‘heroes’.

The bad thing here is that we do expect ‘more’ out of the USMC and it definitely is conduct unbecoming, with the greatest sin being they got caught.


17 posted on 01/13/2012 11:09:18 PM PST by xrmusn ((6/98) EGOIST - A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. A. Bierce)
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To: Eye of Unk

Yes sir; Next time it will be hog fat.


18 posted on 01/13/2012 11:11:35 PM PST by cliff630
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To: xrmusn

dip-shit with the greatest sin being they got caught.


19 posted on 01/13/2012 11:15:34 PM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: Impala64ssa

He’s the man. Hard to believe a lot more aren’t saying the exact damn thing. No standard for our enemies and perfection demanded from us.


20 posted on 01/13/2012 11:21:22 PM PST by TwoSwords (I'm mad as heaven and I'm not going to take it anymore.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Thank God someone with a podium stood up and spoke the truth. Kudos Lt.Col. West!

As I said on a prior thread RE: the Taliban and the ‘armchair quarterbacks here...
Everything he (terrorists) represents is evil. Everything he fights, oppresses and kills for is evil. You accept evil or deny it.
If a demon from the pit of hell rose up and was urinated on by a US Marine, I would fail to see the difference. Nor would I be disappointed.


21 posted on 01/13/2012 11:21:22 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Impala64ssa

Finally, someone to put this incident in it’s correct context-a non-issue.


22 posted on 01/13/2012 11:39:07 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: ozzymandus

No, the Clintons were too busy sending tanks against Waco.


23 posted on 01/13/2012 11:40:37 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Impala64ssa

I’m in LOVE!!!!


24 posted on 01/13/2012 11:41:53 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (No Jesus, No Peace! Know Jesus, Know Peace!)
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To: All

What a man!

View this short video of Col Allen West explaining Islam to a marine. (Start at about 1:35)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkGQmCZjJ0k

We need this man in the new Republican administration.
He is one of the few with guts enough to tell it like it is.
Our elected officials are limp wristed whips who are afraid of Obama and Muslims.


25 posted on 01/14/2012 12:14:55 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Impala64ssa

Link below is to TIME cover depicting Afghan woman whose nose and ears were cut off by the Taliban (graphic warning):

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2007415,00.html


26 posted on 01/14/2012 12:40:10 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: gleeaikin

“...like the Taliban husband who cut off his teenage wife’s nose because she was disobedient.”

She was disobedient? Because she was neglected because her husband was f**king a goat?

God DAMN islam.


27 posted on 01/14/2012 1:24:07 AM PST by Levante
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To: Impala64ssa

Urinating on moslems that are dead is a waste of body fluids...Pissing on moslems that are still alive, OTOH, is an efficient use of those same fluids...


28 posted on 01/14/2012 1:44:35 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Impala64ssa
AMEN Congressman:
Yo Da Man. . . .
29 posted on 01/14/2012 1:54:11 AM PST by DeaconRed (Cold War Veteran. . . . US Army Security Agency 1964-1968)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Or, how about the behavior of the 42nd POTUS with a certain intern in the Oval Office.........
30 posted on 01/14/2012 2:23:33 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Impala64ssa
I agree, was is hell. All the more hellish when our side seems to place the enemy on some sort of pedestal.
31 posted on 01/14/2012 4:04:52 AM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Publitus

He decided too take the two SS prisoners to a POW camp that was approximately a two hour round trip. He took his machine gun with him and returned in about an hour with an empty truck. No one asked any questions or was outraged on behalf of the enemy. ......................................

I’ve been told by Vets who were in Italy that this kind of stuff was not uncommon. It got so bad that the German Command cut into our radios and the general (in fluent english) threatened to reciprocate if it continued. They weren’t SS, just plain Wehrmacht troops. Atrocities are part of warfare no mater which side. A lot of things occur that never make it to the front page. Over the years I heard all kinds of stories from every conflict we were involved. The silliness of Abu Grave and the flame throwing of prisoners in Korea and everything in between covers the spectrum pretty much. Sh*t happens.


33 posted on 01/14/2012 5:12:43 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO YOU ELECT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT!)
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To: Eye of Unk

Too bad the guys didn’t need to go Number Two.


34 posted on 01/14/2012 5:24:49 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Eye of Unk

Until they fear us they will keep fighting.

It took 2 nukes to make the Japanese fear us.

The idiots better start doing something to make them fear us or I believe we will have to do the same thing again eventually.


35 posted on 01/14/2012 5:55:22 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Impala64ssa
As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.

That was a foolish remark.

36 posted on 01/14/2012 6:02:25 AM PST by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: Publitus
He decided too take the two SS prisoners to a POW camp that was approximately a two hour round trip. He took his machine gun with him and returned in about an hour with an empty truck. No one asked any questions or was outraged on behalf of the enemy.

I heard similar things from WWII veterans, and as I look back on their reminiscences now, that was one of the observations that were delivered matter-of-factly, with - in my estimation - very little reticence, something which was not the case with some of the other information. Some of them were still repelled by someone in their squad shooting a run-of-the-mill German who surrendered, but I can't recall a single varying attitude about SS troops.

Anyway, the " we didn't take many SS prisoners" - delivered with a strange look - was one of the little "truisms" I picked up as a kid. That, and "the ones who saw the worst things talk about them the least."

Last night, I had a phone conversation with a multiple-ME deployment vet about this latest manufactured outrage. We came to no conclusions other than that common sense in the form of "shoot, shovel and shut up" is nonexistent for too high a number of people, younger troops have an inordinate fondness for the lowest forms of asinine grandstanding, and that overly restrictive/PC ROEs which enable the enemy to succeed in atrocious ways cause a level of frustration which will find outlets. Obviously, no one high enough up the food chain has the pull or the balls to fix the ROE problem, but they all have the "courage" to "fix" the side effects some stateside fat cat politicians wave in front of the media.

Mr. niteowl77

37 posted on 01/14/2012 6:12:16 AM PST by niteowl77 (Mitt Romney: the horse the GOP elite intends to ride into the abyss. Or is it the other way around?)
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To: Darkwolf377

Yes, very nice response.


38 posted on 01/14/2012 6:15:53 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Man do I agree with this! He is dead nuts on base. These guys did nothing different than what has been going on since “war” was invented other than being stupid enough to film it and get caught. Reprimand, cut rank, and have them stand in shame in front of their battalion.

What is most unfortunate about this is, the enemy will start posting their videos en masse, showing them torture our captured or dead troops. All the while exclaiming, “If it’s okay for the Americans, it should be okay for us.”.

War is hell.


39 posted on 01/14/2012 6:56:04 AM PST by Snark
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To: Impala64ssa

There is a long tradition of pissing on your enemy in the milktary. As a young pilot in the Air Force I remember urinal stickers of Hanoi Jane...


40 posted on 01/14/2012 6:59:29 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Impala64ssa
Thanks for the post on this! And I thank the Lord that I am an American (of the old kind). What a privilege to share the same country with honorable warriors like Allen West (see his biography -- 3 yr stint with the Corps at Lejeune) and the USMC.

This brings to thought though -- were there ever foes in Afghanistan such as those described by Rudyard Kipling? Certainly not the Taliban --

"Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet, Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God's great Judgment Seat; But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth, When two strong men stand face to face, tho' they come from the ends of the earth!"

41 posted on 01/14/2012 9:10:10 AM PST by imardmd1 (Ps. 107:2 Let the redeemed of the Lord say so ...!)
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To: mewzilla

As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.

That was a foolish remark.
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I definitely agree with you about it being a foolish remark.

But I am sure we don’t agree with why I think it was foolish.

He just singled out the Taliwhackers.

He should have included ALL the enemies, Nazi’s, Japs, North Koreans, VC and any and all sympathizers the above and other groups had.
And if I mistakingly left out ‘your’ group, I am sorry.

Troops have been saying ‘piss on ______ forever’.

These guys (foolishly) acted on it.

In fact, for ALL those that promised to ‘piss on my grave’, be advised I intend on being buried at sea so just walk on out and do it.


42 posted on 01/14/2012 9:39:45 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98) EGOIST - A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. A. Bierce)
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