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Posted on 01/19/2012 8:12:41 AM PST by marty60

Time has come for me to leave the chaos of FreeRepublic.

Over the past 13 years I always felt that FR was the home of Conservatives with core values that could not be compromised. This election cycle has shown me that I have been wrong in my assessment.

The lack of moral or intellectual commitment by many of the FR members has resulted in the end of my involvement.

I'm sure JR and many others are pleased but know that the early years were great experiences.

God Bless to all and enjoy the next 4 years of Obama.


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51 posted on 01/19/2012 8:48:05 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: marty60
What, couldn't convince enough people that Perry was the one?

Oh well, turns out others on a political opinion site have opinions not the same as yours.

The horrors.

52 posted on 01/19/2012 8:48:05 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: marty60
Time has come for me to leave the chaos of FreeRepublic.

You need to get out more.

Over the past 13 years I always felt that FR was the home of Conservatives with core values that could not be compromised. The lack of moral or intellectual commitment by many of the FR members has resulted in the end of my involvement.

...And yet, when FR needs stalwart, uncompromising Conversatives to keep the flag upright against the wind and the artillery, you wish to throw down your weapon and desert?

53 posted on 01/19/2012 8:49:17 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: marty60

If you don’t change with the times, you’ll get left behind.


54 posted on 01/19/2012 8:49:37 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: y6162

Lucianne? Just kidding.


55 posted on 01/19/2012 8:54:48 AM PST by steve8714 (Hitchens was wrong.)
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To: marty60; Old Sarge; dfwgator
Swiped for future abuse!

Old Sarge: We were in the nick of time, you were in great peril!
Marty60: I don't think I was. I just wrote my opus! I want to go to the "internets"!
Old Sarge: Yes you were, you were in terrible peril.
Marty60: Look, let me go back into the "internets" and face the peril.
Old Sarge: No, it's too perilous.
Marty60: Look, I'm a conservative, I'm supposed to get as much peril as I can.
Old Sarge: No, we've got to get you back to FreeRepublic.com. Come on!
Marty60: Well, let me have just a little bit of peril?
Old Sarge: No, it's unhealthy.
Marty60: Bet you're a Romney supporter!
Old Sarge: No, I'm not!

56 posted on 01/19/2012 8:55:09 AM PST by DCBryan1 (I’d rather have a man who wrecked his marriage as POTUS than a man who wrecked his country!)
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To: stuartcr

It is better to be right behind, than to be left behind.

Except for things like train crashes.


57 posted on 01/19/2012 8:56:24 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: marty60

The response to your surrender is as unfortunate as your surrender. This is exactly what the left media want from us on the right. They want us to fragment and feel defeated and to just give up. Maybe your candidate did not come through. Maybe we have an incredebly weak field of POTUS candidates. Maybe we have to overlook some very glaring problems.
We will never get a perfect candidate. If we did they would be destroyed by the left. Look what has happened to the tea prty movement.

This is not the time to surrender. We have a lot of people on our side and we must hold true and defeat the left, no matter whose name is on the ballot. We cannot get everything we want all at one time. We have to look to the long term and take incremental steps to get where we want. We have got to stop this all of nothing attitude if we want to succeed. God help us


58 posted on 01/19/2012 8:57:27 AM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country., Really! NOW!!!)
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To: marty60
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59 posted on 01/19/2012 8:58:19 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: UCANSEE2

rgr that


60 posted on 01/19/2012 9:00:30 AM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Classic. :)


61 posted on 01/19/2012 9:00:30 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: marty60

The lack of moral or intellectual commitment by many of the FR members.
Some are moles (democrats)note how they support dem ideas in a round about way.


62 posted on 01/19/2012 9:03:04 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: USS Alaska

” - - - when any one would disagree with you, and used facts and logic - - - “

Ouch! That must really hurt marty60!!

Facts and logic are the LAST things we need in The United States of America! Thanks for pointing that out to us.

BTW, have you found your polarized glasses yet?


63 posted on 01/19/2012 9:03:27 AM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: marty60

MarTay
what up?
relax and hit tha 40


64 posted on 01/19/2012 9:04:30 AM PST by uddaudd (7 days - 7 ways a Guero y Guay Lao << >> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona)
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To: marty60

Marty,
You’ve reach a milestone on your development as a conservative activist, Texas division. What you are feeling is normal. When people reach this stage, it is advisable for them to take a PAID JOB on a campaign. Enough of the volunteer crap!

And be sure to include on your resume your years here at Freeper. An experience that could never be duplicated.

I hear Newt2012 is hiring.
http://www.newt.org/


65 posted on 01/19/2012 9:09:27 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (and I will go to southern Maine to campaign.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
A TIMELY MESSAGE FROM NEWT2012:


66 posted on 01/19/2012 9:12:53 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (and I will go to southern Maine to campaign.)
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To: marty60

Yeah, I’ve tried that also. You’ll have anxiety attacks for not being able to let loose and express yourself.

No matter what some here say, you still have a voice.

Please stay.


67 posted on 01/19/2012 9:16:46 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (NOT VOTING gets 0bamao re-elected.)
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To: montyspython
You are another who wasn't here when FR was in its heyday so you don't have a clue how things have deteriorated around here.

Before 2000, people could actually think for themselves and weren't attacked for not being a group thinker.

68 posted on 01/19/2012 9:17:59 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: jrg

>>...Maybe 4 more years of Obama (which is what you’ll get with Mitt), will wake them up...<<

I doubt it — they don’t seem to be too concerned by the tea-party surge last time.


69 posted on 01/19/2012 9:19:36 AM PST by jaydee770
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To: Graewoulf
Ouch! That must really hurt marty60!!

I couldn't care less about mary60, she was a long time whiner.

The fact that anyone has been at FR for a long period of time, only means that they showed up early, it doesn't give them any additional standing.

If he had any guts, he'd fight harder, not cry about how bad every "noobie" is at FR and how great it was "in the good old days".

How anyone from Texas could be such a cry baby, he must have relatives that were on the outside of the Alamo.

I hope he enjoys lucianne where the house rules will fit his delicate sensibilities.

Texacan Mook.

70 posted on 01/19/2012 9:20:11 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: marty60

Don’t go, Marty! I like you. I don’t always agree with you, but I like you.

It is true that the Clinton gang was after individual FReepers. Frankly, they still are, except now, they work for 0bama.

I will say that weekends are a bit nasty around here. I have come to think of it as letting off steam and alcohol processing time.

So, don’t go away mad.


71 posted on 01/19/2012 9:24:23 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: marty60
I kinda get your drift Marty. Things can get sour sitting in front of these 'puters.

Anyhoot, chill and get back to us.

72 posted on 01/19/2012 9:24:47 AM PST by bksanders (Taglines - BOGO@www.tagme.com)
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To: marty60

Don’t let the door.............


73 posted on 01/19/2012 9:30:09 AM PST by RoadieFan
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To: marty60

I hope Newt adopts Perry’s platform because I really supported Perry’s reform ideas. I hope Perry is in Newt’s administration.

Politics is very frustrating. I hope you will forgive us our emotional excesses and come back after you cool down, Marty. No one is perfect - we are born that way. Especiallly not conservatives. We have yet to put up the perfect candidate. Jesus won’t run for President. But I pray he influences and guides whoever does.


74 posted on 01/19/2012 9:34:01 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: marty60
Over the past 13 years I always felt that FR was the home of Conservatives with core values that could not be compromised

I could have told you THAT was a mistake a long time ago. Nobody is immune from compromise.

I know you were a steadfast Perry supporter, and I certainly thought he was the best conservative who was still around in the race, so I understand where you are coming from. But remember that Perry didn't lose support beause of what people said here at FR, he didn't drop out because of what freepers were doing, and in the end politics here is more about internal debate and horseplay than really effecting elections.

Beyond that, remember that written communication is not natural for humans, and it is fraught with problems. We don't get the necessary feedback we need to supress our natural, fallen tendency to be bitter, angry, spiteful, and hate-filled. It takes great self-control to be civilized, and the anonymous non-visual, non-verbal communication prevents the real-time feedback that decent people use to gauge their words and realize they are letting their sinful nature get the better of them.

Don't lose hope -- I am still convinced that MOST of the freepers, even those who are most vile, would not say what they say here to people's faces, because in the end they are "decent" people in the real world, just not here.

I fear for the next generation though -- they have no practice with filtering, and have often been convinced that brutal "honesty" is actually an admirable trait. A couple of years unemployed and friendless might prove to them otherwise.

75 posted on 01/19/2012 9:34:24 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: marty60

Hate to see a long timer go, but I understand. This is definitely a frustrating primary. The truth is, if Obama wins, it will be because the Economy will have improved by election day, thats really the bottom line.


76 posted on 01/19/2012 9:36:30 AM PST by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: lonestar
Before 2000, people could actually think for themselves and weren't attacked for not being a group thinker.

Wasn't Willie Green class of '98? And wasn't he famous for calling anyone who disagreed with socialist, statist, choo-choo train posts him a noob? There are an infinite range of reasons to condemn or congratulate a FReeper. Born on dates just shouldn't figure into it one way or the other. Brilliant is brilliant even if it is the persons first post. Stupid is stupid no matter how long you have been posting it.
77 posted on 01/19/2012 9:36:30 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: SaraJohnson

Gingrich/Perry is a strong possibility...

Gingrich understand he will now be in a all out bloodfest with Romney and the Establishment.

Perry brings organization across the country and a financial network that is huge. Also, Perry is a conservative and Gingrich is just the type to go against the “you have to balance the ticket out with a moderate”.

Gingrich/Perry 2012 .... Perry/Rubio 2020


78 posted on 01/19/2012 9:41:00 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: marty60
that the early years were great experiences.

I hear ya. Those were the days indeed.

I've made so many FRiends over the years here. Unfortunately, only a little more than a handful of them remain on FR today.

Hope you'll reconsider. Take care...

79 posted on 01/19/2012 9:48:21 AM PST by nutmeg
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To: marty60

“Complain about Romney, complain about Gingrich but if you don’t place a vote for the GOP candidate in November IT IS YOUR FAULT that Obama gets re-elected.”

And here is the attitude that is part of the problem.

There is no way in hell I’ll vote for Gingrich or Romney. If they are nominated, an Obama victory lies solely with the GOP (as an aside, I probably wouldn’t have voted for Perry either), not an individual voter who is exercising his right to vote as he sees fit.


80 posted on 01/19/2012 9:50:36 AM PST by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: CriticalJ
There is no way in hell I’ll vote for Gingrich or Romney. If they are nominated, an Obama victory lies solely with the GOP (as an aside, I probably wouldn’t have voted for Perry either), not an individual voter who is exercising his right to vote as he sees fit.

OK...and I'll admit up front that I might be wrong here, but....

Isn't what the previous poster is trying to say, this?: "If you can't find it within yourself to vote FOR a rino candidate, then for pete's sake, vote AGAINST the stain."

And your statement infers that if you don't get the candidate you want for the rino ticket, then you won't vote at all....am I correct?

Then, might it also be true that an "empty" vote on the rino side means a non-counterbalanced vote on the side of the stain!!

No indeed, the gop - regardless of how one may consider it - would not be at "fault" here just because they did not hand you your particular choice of candidate. It is an INDIVIDUAL decision for whom to vote (or against whom to vote as the case may be) and whether to vote at all.

A "missing" or "non" vote in this case could be defined as your preference for the stain over a rino candidate that is not of your choosing.

IMHO...and ONLY IMHO....there is nothing - repeat NOTHING - and NO ONE - worse than the stain.

Period.

81 posted on 01/19/2012 10:03:00 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (N/A)
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To: marty60

Oh, lookie here. We have another opus-lite on another thread and now this full-on opus. Aren’t we lucky today.


82 posted on 01/19/2012 10:06:32 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: CriticalJ
There is no way in hell I’ll vote for Gingrich or Romney. If they are nominated, an Obama victory lies solely with the GOP (as an aside, I probably wouldn’t have voted for Perry either), not an individual voter who is exercising his right to vote as he sees fit.

Who would you vote for?

83 posted on 01/19/2012 10:08:54 AM PST by Mr.Unique (Very generic, non-offensive, tagline.)
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To: FourPeas

Where’s the opus-lite on another thread? Thanks.


84 posted on 01/19/2012 10:47:49 AM PST by nutmeg
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To: GonzoGOP
I was addressing the FACT that a lot of former FReepers have been zotted and others have left voluntarily.

Yes, stupid is stupid and I guess they got tired of being called stupid by the stupid. There are too many Willie Greens these days!

Bottom line is, several weeks ago some people were laughing about zotting some old time FReepers. There are even more who have left voluntarily because they no longer wanted to be part of FR.

The unintended consequence is they all took their former FReepathon donations with them...many were longtime monthly donors.

We remember when FR had an influence...interviewed frequently on TV and radio. Those days are over! FR's reputation is shot!

85 posted on 01/19/2012 10:50:35 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar
Those days are over! FR's reputation is shot!

Fights between brothers are always the worst. It takes a lot to get them fighting so when it finally comes to blows all the old grievances come out. That is where we are now. This is an ugly primary. It could be no other way. So long as everybody still things their guy can win the fight will stay ugly.

Now most of our guys (or girls) will lose or didn't run at all. So the question is what happens after the last punch of the primaries is thrown. If Newt wins can we get behind him as being a heck of a lot better than Obmaa. If Romney wins can we pull the group together to fight for the down tickent races.

This is a conservative activism web site, not a conservative pacifism web site. I may not have been here 13 years but have been cussed out and called every name in the book. And there have been times where I just had to log off for a week before I had a stroke or said something that would get me zotted. There is a time for cooling off and a time to bring the heat.

But whatever it takes to get our heads right we need to be here in September-November. There will be 469 federal offices on the ballot November 6. There will be thousands of state and local offices, all of which play a part. In such numbers we can all find someone to work with, some cause worth standing up for. Nothing worth having is to be purchased cheaply. If the only cost is to be hammered by some on-line keyboard warrior there are far worse fates. We must find the victories we can, even if they aren't at the top of the ticket.
86 posted on 01/19/2012 11:17:06 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GonzoGOP

Whatever!


87 posted on 01/19/2012 11:39:45 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: UCANSEE2
You need to get out more.

Could it be that marty60 is at a party you weren't invited to?

...And yet, when FR needs stalwart, uncompromising Conversatives to keep the flag upright against the wind and the artillery, you wish to throw down your weapon and desert?

You think FR is the only conservative site on the internet...and where you don't have to suffer playground bullies?

You need to get out more.

88 posted on 01/19/2012 11:49:33 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: marty60; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ...
Lamest Opus Award and ZOT for marty60. Bye.

To be added or removed from the Viking Kitty/ZOT Ping List, FReepmail Darkwing104 or 50mm.

89 posted on 01/19/2012 12:46:31 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: marty60; Bender2

90 posted on 01/19/2012 12:53:56 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: marty60

1998 it’s a shame you didn’t just take a break instead of leaving. :(


91 posted on 01/19/2012 12:53:56 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: Peter from Rutland

What you said


92 posted on 01/19/2012 12:55:21 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: 50mm

Gee, I feel vindicated


93 posted on 01/19/2012 12:56:21 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: marty60

yet another 98 registered troll.
seems those long time ones are coming out of the woodwork after staying under the radar for so long


94 posted on 01/19/2012 1:07:33 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: MotorCityBuck; jrg
Get real. Four more years of obama will kill any hopes of ever seeing ascendent conservativism in the US.

He will get at least two more SCOTUS picks and that will guarantee forty years of activist marxist justices.

Stay home, vote libertarian, write in palin or vote for obama...the net will be the same...

Can you say, Chief Justice Sotomayor? Sure you can.

95 posted on 01/19/2012 1:13:46 PM PST by moose-matson (I keep it in my head)
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To: marty60
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor." - Ronald Reagan, 1972
96 posted on 01/19/2012 1:14:43 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: marty60

Over the past 13 years I always felt that FR was the home of Conservatives with core values that could not be compromised

- - - -
It is which is why we won’t roll over for Mitt.

And that was a lame opus.


97 posted on 01/19/2012 1:27:49 PM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I'm the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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To: marty60; 50mm; darkwing104; stephenjohnbanker; SunkenCiv; humblegunner; Allegra; Eaker; paulycy; ...


So long, marty60 (Posting History)

Hat Tip to 50mm

FReeper from the Class of 1998 throws herself on a crackling bolt to escape from Free Republic





Y'all come back again, now, y'heah?


Thank you JoeProBono

FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

98 posted on 01/19/2012 2:02:48 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: moose-matson; MotorCityBuck; jrg
Yeah and If you Vote for Romney, guess what You Still Get all those Things! Romney is Ubama with less Melanin and More Hair!

So If he Does get the Nomination the GOP will have gone the way of the Whigs, and We will need to strike out and create a real conservative party, one made up of true Conservatives, true (not wacky lefties) Libertarians, Sarah Palin, and Kiss the Republican Party a long overdue goodbye!

99 posted on 01/19/2012 2:16:42 PM PST by KC_Lion (Romney is Ubama with less Melanin and More Hair!)
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To: marty60

I’m truly sorry to see this.


100 posted on 01/19/2012 2:28:08 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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