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To: edge919

The Ark case is a MESS. It is too time consuming to go through that case. People have done it ad nauseum.

The salient point is that Horace Gray was appointed by Chestur Arthur - a fraud who may not have been eligible for President - depending on the definition of Natural Born citizen.

His father was an alien at the time Chester was born. According to the decision in Ark, Chester was a citizen.

What would have happened if Gray had ruled another way?????

The fact is that Horace Gray had a vested interest in a decision and that may have been the reason it turned out the way it did and why it was such a mess.


730 posted on 01/21/2012 6:51:44 PM PST by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: RummyChick

Focus. The citation of the Minor holding is very simple and elegant and does NOT help Arthur nor does it involve Arthur. Why does Gray emphasize Virginia Minor’s citizenship was based in part on citizen parents when that was never specifically stated?? There’s a reason. Think about it and answer the question.


731 posted on 01/21/2012 6:56:46 PM PST by edge919
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To: RummyChick

This is a very interesting discussion on

http://www.federalistblog.us/2006/12/us_v_wong_kim_ark_can_never_be_considered/

“They are also attempting to keep their prior adjudication to what “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” means in Elk v. Wilkins out of the discussion or else Wong Kim Ark can’t be said to be a citizen of the United States.”

And why does Gray need Wong Kim Ark to be a citizen???? Because he needs Chester Arthur to be a citizen????


732 posted on 01/21/2012 6:59:48 PM PST by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: RummyChick

I never received a response from you regarding my comment about seeing through other people’s eyes. (including the riddle of the five hats.)

Did you just not think it worth the bother of reading or did I not explain the idea clearly enough?

I won’t be offended if you tell me it wasn’t worth the bother, because I realize it would require a bit of reading and mulling. Sometimes a shorter message is better, but often you can’t get the point into a shorter message. I’m sure we all know how that is.


833 posted on 01/22/2012 2:31:24 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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