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Dick Morris: Santorum Won Debate and Mitt will win SC
DickMorris.com ^ | 1-20-2012 | Dick Morris

Posted on 01/21/2012 11:39:08 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright

Dear Friend,

In this video commentary, I discuss who won last night’s Republican debate in Charleston, South Carolina. One man won the debate. The other will win the election! Tune in!

(Excerpt) Read more at dickmorris.com ...


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To: VRW Conspirator

Morris also predicted that the GOP was “certain” to take the Senate in ‘10.


51 posted on 01/21/2012 12:39:21 PM PST by kjo
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To: Jim Robinson

Let’s see that he’s better at general forecasting that actual, specific predictions.


52 posted on 01/21/2012 12:46:44 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: JohnG45

And that is one of the reasons I no longer watch or listen to Hanitty.

He is almost, not quite but almost, as bad as his boss Bill O’ Reily.


53 posted on 01/21/2012 12:50:16 PM PST by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: Jim Robinson
Series question, has the toe sucker ever been right about anything?

Actually, Ive never seen anyone be so wrong so consistently.

54 posted on 01/21/2012 12:58:25 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Bigun
And that is one of the reasons I no longer watch or listen to Hannity.

I gave up on Hannity years ago. But here in NYC, Sean follows Rush's show which ends at 2:59 PM everyday to give Sean time to promote his show. Just about every other day one will hear Sean say he will have Dick Morris and/or Karl (Tokyo) Rove on, so stay tuned. I want to puke!

55 posted on 01/21/2012 1:02:08 PM PST by JohnG45
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To: C. Edmund Wright

When I logged onto Yahoo! this morning (yeah, I know), their headline said, in essence, that today’s result in SC is not that important and, certainly, is not the final word. A variant of that theme has been running most of the day.

This tells me that Newt is very close to bagging the SC primary.


56 posted on 01/21/2012 1:08:50 PM PST by Arm_Bears (Journalists first; then lawyers.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Series question, has the toe sucker ever been right about anything?

Not much lately - and I have had fun reading the comments ripping him in this thread. About 98% of Freepers were way ahead of him on this one.

57 posted on 01/21/2012 1:09:02 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I am so tired of this toe-sucker. Hardly anything this blowhard says comes to pass.


58 posted on 01/21/2012 1:10:30 PM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I wouldn’t be surprised if Newt wins and Santorum is 2nd.


59 posted on 01/21/2012 1:16:52 PM PST by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!!!!!!!! 11.06.2012, the Tower of Sauron falls,)
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To: Arm_Bears

If Newt doesn’t win the SC primary by 5-7, I’d be surprised. Next week will tell how that impacts the nomination going into FL where Romney has been doing well.


60 posted on 01/21/2012 1:17:12 PM PST by gswilder
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To: Jim Robinson

Actually Jim, he was right on one thing.

Back in the early Fall of 2008, he said that 0bama would win the election...and that he would be the WORST President the country has ever seen. He was right on that, not on much else since.


61 posted on 01/21/2012 1:20:05 PM PST by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!!!!!!!! 11.06.2012, the Tower of Sauron falls,)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
How many of these before folks (Hannity AHEM) quit calling him an expert?

I was wondering when any of these guys are ever going to start calling him on his misses? There are enough of them to point to. This will be another one.

62 posted on 01/21/2012 1:20:11 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Dick...You are stoopid sometimes.


63 posted on 01/21/2012 1:21:37 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Jim Robinson
"Series question, has the toe sucker ever been right about anything?" He may have been right about this one, no? Condi vs Hillary Pictures, Images and Photos
64 posted on 01/21/2012 1:22:17 PM PST by GR_Jr. (ABR / AB0 (Anybody but Romney / Anybody but 0bama))
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To: SueRae

Santorum second? So you agree with Morris that Santorum won the debate?


65 posted on 01/21/2012 1:23:06 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Idiot. What debate was he watching?


66 posted on 01/21/2012 1:25:16 PM PST by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: BCrago66

Agreed. Sometimes I wonder why the talking heads (and others) don’t pay attention to the crowd. Santorum got the smallest most pathetic little golf claps. Now, I realize the 2000 or so in the hall are not the entire universe, but there is no reason to think the other half million South Carolinians aren’t responding the same way.

Terry Jeffries, Dick Morris, and “friends of Rush” who all thought Santorum won that last debate — I always wondered what they were smoking. Maybe the voters in SC will prove them right and me wrong today, but I don’t think so. (to Rush’ credit, he was circumspect but never said he agreed with those who thought Santorum won, and he played a bad clip from Santorum, so I don’t know what he really thought) .


67 posted on 01/21/2012 1:29:09 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

No, I think Newt won the debate. I had Santorum 2nd, maybe even tied with Paul...and Romney a distant third. THat was my opinion of the debate. We’ll know in a few hours how that translates to votes.


68 posted on 01/21/2012 1:30:55 PM PST by SueRae (I can see November from my HOUSE!!!!!!!! 11.06.2012, the Tower of Sauron falls,)
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To: SueRae

Interesting. I thought Newt “won” the debate in the first three minutes, but after that sort of coasted in. But who could blame him, this was an amazing and exhausting week for him. With Monday night, all he needed was to hit the first pitch out of the park, and he certainly did.

I thought Mitt was second, altho he did have one awful moment.
I thought Paul was pretty good for the most part.
I thought Santorum came off as whiney and petulant and just awful - and I thought the crowd agreed.

Again, those are just my “debate” scores, not my opinion over all.


69 posted on 01/21/2012 1:34:15 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Morris only became “relevant” (and I use that loosely) because he was seen as a democratic insider, who turned republican/conservative. I have read a couple of his books. Frankly, I am not impressed with his analysis or predictions. Wish Fox would quit showing him every nite.


70 posted on 01/21/2012 1:35:22 PM PST by gswilder
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, he did get Clinton elected. My prediction from sources in South Carolina: Newt wins by 8%. Do I win anything if I'm right and Dickie is wrong?
71 posted on 01/21/2012 1:39:58 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: tsowellfan

Democrats Have Already Started Making Ads Against Romney:

Not just that, they have been setting up this epic battle about the 99% vs Capitalism. It won’t work without Romney. Look for a lot more “missing” ballots (compliments of the local SEIU) to keep Romney in.


72 posted on 01/21/2012 1:41:37 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, he did get Clinton elected. My prediction from sources in South Carolina: Newt wins by 8%. Do I win anything if I'm right and Dickie is wrong?
73 posted on 01/21/2012 1:42:42 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Bigun

Dick has to be credible since Sean Hannity has him on his radio show. And we all know that Hannity only has the most credible people like Karl Rove giving commentary. It’s true, between telling us how humble and down to earth he is, Sean has credible people like Karl and Dick on. Did I mention he has Ann Coulter on too?

But seriously, we are now entering the “anyone but Newt” phase for the GOP establishment. We can expect Santorum to start getting more of their kudos. Wait until they start praising Ron Paul.


74 posted on 01/21/2012 1:47:17 PM PST by chickenlips (Mitt Romney, like John McCain but with less appeal)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I love listening to Dick and his convoluted theories but he is never right about anything except the Clintoons. I think he has had to buy BOR more than a few steak dinners.


75 posted on 01/21/2012 1:57:50 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
The media are pumping Santorum. They don't want to see him collapse and withdraw before he impedes Gingrich some more.

Bingo!

76 posted on 01/21/2012 2:28:35 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: C. Edmund Wright

So it looks like Obumbo isn’t the only one in La-La land..

JB


77 posted on 01/21/2012 2:34:26 PM PST by thatjoeguy (MAYDAY! MAYDAY! We are so going in ! !)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Dick Morris the Howard Cosell of politics.

Always right, always wrong, but fun to watch.

78 posted on 01/21/2012 2:34:26 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Jim Robinson

Do you mean serious?


79 posted on 01/21/2012 2:37:54 PM PST by thatjoeguy (MAYDAY! MAYDAY! We are so going in ! !)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

It does my heart good to see Morris say this. He’s been consistently wrong about everything since the past century. He predicted Hillary! would be running against Condi Rice in ‘08.


80 posted on 01/21/2012 2:40:40 PM PST by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

This is an obvious attempt to blunt Newt’s surge. They must see him picking up plenty of Santorum voters. I guess they believe if people think Santorum can win, voters will stay with him and not switch to Newt.

The Romney contingent must really be desperate now. They know if Newt has a large surge here or if Santorum drops out, Florida may become a lost cause for Mitt. If Mitt loses Florida to Newt, he will be in deep trouble.


81 posted on 01/21/2012 2:43:13 PM PST by Waryone (Mitt Romney, the father of gay marriage and socialized medicine in the US, is a lying socialist)
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To: Waryone

I agree there will be a coordinated effort to push Santorum by the Romney loving media types, but I don’t think Morris is part of that.

I think since he started spending all of his time in either DC or New York, he totally lost his feel for the electorate, which is what helped him advise Clinton. He’s gone tone deaf.

His anti Obama Care ads were awful, and not in tuned with the real reasons folks were against it.


82 posted on 01/21/2012 2:46:55 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: tsowellfan
Now I have to listen to Dick Morris.

I would have be at gun point...

83 posted on 01/21/2012 2:53:13 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I see where Dick’s coming from. Aside from Newt’s opening question, I do think Santorum won the rest of the debate. Santorum has been remarkably inconsistent, and was pretty lousy in Monday’s debate, but I think Thursday was his best debate. He landed a whole lot of blows on both Mitt and Newt and they both kind of had to dodge with their answers. Of course he didn’t win it nearly as decisively as Newt won Monday’s debate. In the post-debate interview, my read on Newt’s demeanor was that he was slightly disappointed he didn’t reproduce the same knockout performance from Monday.

Santorum’s post-Iowa speech on caucus night was his next best moment of the campaign. I also think he probably won the Huckabee forum last Saturday. Before that he’s had scattered isolated questions in the debates where he also did very well, but a lot of inconsistency in both his presentation and content.

Still, I don’t think this performance from Santorum will be enough to gain him much in SC. Newt and to a lesser extent Mitt dominated the conversation this week and it’s not like Newt’s Monday performance will be forgotten.

I do think Santorum’s looking better and better as a V.P. pick for Newt, although I’ve been saying he would be the best pick for a month or two now. He can shore up support from social conservatives and spend a lot of time campaigning strongly in the rust belt industrial states. I also like the idea of a President and V.P. who actually have a lot in common, not these awkward pairings of conservatives and moderates like Reagan/Bush and McCain/Palin.

I am worried about the path to Super Tuesday for Newt. These states seem mostly like blue states, which not being an expert, I would assume would be more favorable to Mitt just like New Hampshire was, but could be wrong. Newt’s best state in this list, Missouri, is that non-binding primary which Newt didn’t get on the ballot for.

February 4, 2012
Nevada (caucus)

February 4–11, 2012
Maine (caucus)

February 7, 2012
Colorado (caucus)
Minnesota (caucus)
Missouri (primary)

February 28, 2012
Arizona (primary)
Michigan (primary)

March 3, 2012
Washington (caucus)


84 posted on 01/21/2012 2:54:00 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: JediJones

Dick thought Santorum scored well enough to really dig into Newts vote and maybe even beat him. I totally disagree. Yes, I know Santorum got some digs in, but those don’t necessarily help you. I don’t think they helped him.

Sometimes, if you are torn between two candidates, the one who does the attack ticks you off and you end up siding the one who was attacked. And the rules in these things is that you attack, and then the person responds. Well, Santorum kept butting in and wanting a third bite at the apple and it was all so unseemly.

We’ll see. If he gets around 16%, he did ok. Much above that, and he had a good debate. Much below that, and his debate was a loser.


85 posted on 01/21/2012 3:46:35 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: JediJones

Dick thought Santorum scored well enough to really dig into Newts vote and maybe even beat him. I totally disagree. Yes, I know Santorum got some digs in, but those don’t necessarily help you. I don’t think they helped him.

Sometimes, if you are torn between two candidates, the one who does the attack ticks you off and you end up siding the one who was attacked. And the rules in these things is that you attack, and then the person responds. Well, Santorum kept butting in and wanting a third bite at the apple and it was all so unseemly.

We’ll see. If he gets around 16%, he did ok. Much above that, and he had a good debate. Much below that, and his debate was a loser.


86 posted on 01/21/2012 3:46:41 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Jim Robinson

I think he once said that water was wet, but only after studying the subject for two weeks and changing his mind four times.


87 posted on 01/21/2012 3:53:29 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I think Dick needs to consider retirement.


88 posted on 01/21/2012 5:23:33 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Vigilanteman
My prediction from sources in South Carolina: Newt wins by 8%. Do I win anything if I'm right and Dickie is wrong?

8%. LOL!

89 posted on 01/21/2012 6:39:05 PM PST by PalmettoMason (South Carolinians need to start choosing a primary challenger to Nikki Haley NOW!!!!!!!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

HA! Bump


90 posted on 01/21/2012 7:42:07 PM PST by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: PalmettoMason
As I stated, 8% was conservative. It was based on the assumption that a lot of women would lie to pollsters and/or their husbands and tell them they were voting for Gingrich, then vote for someone else. Obviously, the results show this number was over estimated.

But my sourced did say it wouldn't even be close and they were right.

91 posted on 01/21/2012 8:03:19 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

I was watching Fox Friday night when Dick Morris said these stupid things on O’Reilly’s show. In his fevered mind, Santorum won the debate decisively, Romney was definitely going to win SC, and Santorum was probably going to take second place.

These Fox pundits have outlived whatever usefulness they may once have had. I’m sick to death of seeing Morris, Rove, Krauthammer and the rest on every single Fox show every day, spinning the same tired spin and looking like even they don’t believe or care what they’re saying anymore.

I had a strange experience tonight. After watching a couple hours of Fox’s post-election coverage, I was about ready to blow my TV up, the spin was so insane. I switched over to CNN just to see what they were doing, expecting it to be even worse. What a shock. Every single one of their talking heads sounded perfectly sane compared to what I’d been listening to on Fox. What a wake-up call.


92 posted on 01/21/2012 10:53:04 PM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: Vigilanteman

I wasn’t ragging you. It was just a joyous exclamation.
I also thought that anything above 3 or 4% would be a good night for Newt.
Morris, as usual, was more wrong than anybody!


93 posted on 01/22/2012 2:54:35 AM PST by PalmettoMason (South Carolinians need to start choosing a primary challenger to Nikki Haley NOW!!!!!!!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Another reminder that Morris, entertaining as he is, is almost always wrong!


94 posted on 01/22/2012 7:12:37 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: PalmettoMason
No offense taken. I just think it is funny how I, with limited resources on the ground in South Carolina, can call things as close as I can whereas Dick Morris, with his professional experience can miss by a mile.

What I didn't factor in is just how much Newt's media smackdown benefited him. Even though I much prefer Rick Santorum, I've got to give him credit for his brilliant smackdown of the enemedia.

I hope every other GOP candidate sees it and seeks to emulate it. Playing nice with these sonzabitches hasn't worked. Maybe having everyone consistently exposing them for who they really are will help the Sheeple understand it sooner rather than later. Continuing to pretend that they are the unbiased arbitrators of the political process and actual journalists certainly hasn't worked and will never work.

95 posted on 01/22/2012 7:17:40 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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