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If Romney wins Tuesday and garners the nomination, should the Tea Party field a candidate?
FreeRepublic | January 27, 2012 | 2ndDivisionVet

Posted on 01/26/2012 11:13:18 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

It's looking more and more like the RINO, country club, elitist attacks on Newt Gingrich are having their intended effect and that Mitt Romney will win in Florida and possibly take the Republican nomination. I don't know about you, but I'm up to **here** with the "lesser of two evils" nonsense and I very much doubt that Mitt will choose Sarah Palin or someone like her as his VP.

What to do, then? I'm open to any and all suggestions.


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KEYWORDS: gingrich; liarliarpantonfire; magicunderwear; newt; pinocchio; romney; teaparty
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1 posted on 01/26/2012 11:13:31 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll just home on election day. No sense in participating in an establishment that never meaningfully changes.


2 posted on 01/26/2012 11:15:56 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: Utmost Certainty

*stay home


3 posted on 01/26/2012 11:17:19 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Much to early to declare Mittens the winner unless your with the establishment. FL is the 4th of 50 (or 57-60 depending on who is counting) to vote.

I’m not thrilled with any of them, but now is not the time to declare a winner. 80% of the country still has not voted.


4 posted on 01/26/2012 11:17:29 PM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No.
It would just get uglier.


5 posted on 01/26/2012 11:17:54 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mitt will NEVER pick Sarah as his VP and Sarah will NEVER accept it anyway. She hates Mitt, his goons have trashed her for 3+ years, it will never happen. Just hope that Tuesday people in Florida see what kind of scumbag Romney is and kick him to the curb


6 posted on 01/26/2012 11:18:48 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We have enough division without a 3rd party.


7 posted on 01/26/2012 11:19:24 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don't throw in the towel.

Newt can and should win Florida!

If Romney is the GOP nominee, the party goes the way of the Whigs.

All enthusiasm evaporates over night if Romney wins Florida.

8 posted on 01/26/2012 11:19:24 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I very much doubt that Mitt will choose Sarah Palin or someone like her as his VP.

She would laugh in his face if he asked. However, he knows better than to ask. There is no one like her. She can't be bought.

9 posted on 01/26/2012 11:21:28 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Santorum has to get out or he’s giving it to Romney.. and he can forget EVER trying to run again if he causes Romney to be the nominee.. I’ll jump on that Bobby Jindal or Paul Ryan bandwagon as soon as it leaves the station to defeat Santorum if he ever decides to run again


10 posted on 01/26/2012 11:23:19 PM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: onyx

Don’t forget Newt’s big donor from Vegas, Sheldon Adelson - he is Jewish and this could mean that the Jewish vote in south FL could go to Newt.

...from my fingers to God’s ears...


11 posted on 01/26/2012 11:23:46 PM PST by japaneseghost
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes!


12 posted on 01/26/2012 11:24:08 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will support the GOP locally and statewide but will not support Romney.
First time in 8 or 9 POTUS elections I have EVER said that.

I am done with it. The past 48 hours have been like being born again politically.

I see the GOP and most of what is called conservatism for what it is..fake.


13 posted on 01/26/2012 11:24:38 PM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: cableguymn

Mitt wins FL and it’s over..no one has the money to keep going and fight enough to compete

80% left or not


14 posted on 01/26/2012 11:25:39 PM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: mylife
We have enough division without a 3rd party.

Sorry, but the GOP-E has declared war on the TeaParty.

They've decided that conservatives have to shut-up, accept Mitt, or go away.

If Romney is the Nominee, then it's time to leave the party.
15 posted on 01/26/2012 11:26:02 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: onyx

I’m with you, Onyx.

Why do we have to lie down and whimper ?

The Conservatives are winning this 2-1. Santorum won Iowa and Newt won South Carolina.

We are in the driver’s seat.


16 posted on 01/26/2012 11:27:16 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (NO COMPROMISE! NO RETREAT! NO SURRENDER! I AM A CONSERVATIVE! CASE CLOSED!)
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To: japaneseghost
he is Jewish and this could mean that the Jewish vote in south FL could go to Newt.

lol...problem is they are all registered Dems and it's a closed primnary

by that logic most of Mark Levin's audience should be heavily Jewish...I doubt it

Most Jews loathe social conservatives more than they do Islam

17 posted on 01/26/2012 11:27:30 PM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unfortunately, Romney got the better of the debate today. The Gingrich of S. Carolina was nowhere to be found. (He was on the defensive over investments in Freddie Mae, and the notion of colonizing the moon appeared looney to both the audience and the political commentariat.) Santorum was the clear winner and if as a result of today’s performance, his poll numbers go up, this means more votes taken from the Gingrich column. Should this play out, FL which is a must win state for Gingrich and Romney, the outcome in FL will be determinative. If Gingrich self implodes, at least we’ll have Santorum standing.


18 posted on 01/26/2012 11:27:30 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why should i give up like some on this thread? I thought the objective here is to get rid of the kenyan klown? I heard the same comments 4 years ago when McLame became the GOP candidate in the end “oh I will stay home” blah blah.


19 posted on 01/26/2012 11:27:38 PM PST by max americana (Buttcrack Obama is an idiot)
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To: onyx

Your last sentence says it all.

Dust in the wind if Romney wins. Dust in the wind as far as any meaningful grassroots support.

He’ll get 20-30% total.


20 posted on 01/26/2012 11:29:37 PM PST by onona (Dicky Betts is one ramblin man !)
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To: japaneseghost

Right. Republican Jews could be voting for Newt.


21 posted on 01/26/2012 11:30:11 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: Steelfish

Santorum ahs no money and less than half Newt’s polling numbers...he would have to trounce Mitt and Newt...not likely

it’s not that conservatives won’t support Santorum it’s just that he is a long shot with poor odds

Newt is at least 50/50

and this is likely the Alamo for the losers....unless it’s Mitt who has the cash to go on forever

what did he spend of his own money in 2008?

25 million or so...maybe more

and he has obviously 90% of all the public faces that pretend to be “conservatives”

were Santorum not in the race ...Romney would be in possibly DOA


22 posted on 01/26/2012 11:31:20 PM PST by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: absolutely; seethetruth

I’ve heard from FL FRiends, like seekthetruth, and she said they’re bringing FL in for Newt. It’s much different on the ground than the news media would have us believe.

seekthetruth and other FReepers are attendiong Newt’s events, and seeing folks turned away. His events are jammed packed!

Newt is appearing with US Representative West tomorrow or on voting day! Keep the faith!!!


23 posted on 01/26/2012 11:33:59 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Im not voting for Willard $50Abortion Romney so I would like an option if he gets the nomination. I’d even be willing to support Ron Paul as a third party candidate.


24 posted on 01/26/2012 11:34:25 PM PST by Tramonto (Draft Palin)
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To: Steelfish

nobody has ever spent five seconds attacking Santorum or his record in these debates.. awful easy to look good in a debate where nobody but you does the attacking because you are no threat to win another primary... if Gingrich drops out it’s because Romney ran the board on the delegate count which puts Santorum where?.. oblivion where he is now

the fact is it’s either Gingrich or Romney this election


25 posted on 01/26/2012 11:34:49 PM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: max americana

RomneyCare/ObamaCare, RomneyMarriage/Gay-friendly Obama, Draft-evader/Never wore the uniform, Statist/Statist, Wall Street backers/Wall Street backers, OneWorlder/OneWorlder, Mormon/Atheist or crypto-Muslim, Blue state liberal/Blue state radical and on and on....


26 posted on 01/26/2012 11:35:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: SoConPubbie

“They’ve decided that conservatives have to shut-up, accept Mitt, or go away.”

Worked when we got stuck with GWB. Everyone caved.


27 posted on 01/26/2012 11:36:05 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Florida lost half its delegates because it decided to hold its primary early. It'll send less delegates than Georgia, Michigan or Ohio to the convention.

Newt needs to win this, but it isn't make or break for him.

No, it isn't time for the Tea Party to field a candidate, and the candidates available to the Tea Party will have the stature of James Stockdale or Steve Kubby.

No elected conservative Republican will jump ship this election. The only alternative to Obama will be the GOP nominee.

28 posted on 01/26/2012 11:37:52 PM PST by Chunga (Ron Paul is a fruitcakey jackass.)
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To: max americana
Why should i give up like some on this thread? I thought the objective here is to get rid of the kenyan klown? I heard the same comments 4 years ago when McLame became the GOP candidate in the end “oh I will stay home” blah blah.

You've gained nothing and lost every chance of the GOP ever being a limited-government, social, fiscal, and military conservative organization during your lifetime if Romney is the candidate.

He destroyed the Massachusetts GOP; he will do the same to the National Party.

He is a complete Pretender where conservatism is concerned.

If by some miracle he was actually able to win the General Election, he would turn on a dime and all of his conservative promises would disappear and we would be left with the real Romney, the one that governed Massachussetts.

If Romney is the nominee, the GOP is dead.

Time to move on from the stinking carcass, and much like when the GOP was first formed out of the decaying body of the WHIGS, start a new conservative party.
29 posted on 01/26/2012 11:38:51 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: wardaddy

LOL exactly.. Santorum is the one who has already imploded and should get out if he cares about the country and any prospect for future political considerations


30 posted on 01/26/2012 11:38:52 PM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: RedStateRocker
Worked when we got stuck with GWB. Everyone caved.

If you think that GWB == Newt, you haven't been paying attention.

At least GWB was a social conservative, Mitt is not.

He is still supportive of Gay Rights, the repeal of DADT, and his abortion position is not sincere.
31 posted on 01/26/2012 11:40:43 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: wardaddy

You echo my sentiments to a tee. For the first time in my 52 years I see NO hope for the GOP. If it is willing to be complicit in something like the Mitt Romney slime machine, the party is just sick to its very core.

I actually look forward to Mitt losing to Obama. I won’t vote for BO of course - but I do look forward to hearing Ann Coulter explain away the loss. And to her next book debuting at #8357 on the NYT Best-Sellers list.

I also look forward to Meghan McCain signing on as the New York Times token conservative columnist when David Brooks resigns to become Barack Obama’s Press Secretary.

Hank


32 posted on 01/26/2012 11:41:51 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: onona

Thanks you, but that’ll be so damn sad and pathetic. No enthusiams.

It’ll be gone, baby gone.

I despise Romney. I will not vote for him.

I’ll cast my ballot “write-in” for Sarah Palin, which is permitted here in Mississippi.

If the old adage is true, that says “timing is everything” then this is NOT the time for 1-percenter Romney!

He will never connect with average voters. He’s a phoney and he’s stiff, -— he can’t fell the pain of the unemployed.

Plus his LDS religion doesn’t play well here in the Southern Baptist South “at all.” Wait till the media start running documentaries on Mormons, and Polygamy.


33 posted on 01/26/2012 11:42:11 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: SoConPubbie; RedStateRocker
If you think that GWB == Newt, you haven't been paying attention.

Sorry, that should have been:

If you think that GWB == Mitt, you haven't been paying attention.
34 posted on 01/26/2012 11:42:17 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: onyx

Has West endorsed Newt?

Hank


35 posted on 01/26/2012 11:43:00 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: RedStateRocker

Rush said as much today. Will not be listening to him again any time soon.


36 posted on 01/26/2012 11:43:22 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Steelfish
Florida isn't a must-win. They lost half their delegates for holding an early primary.

Don't let the media spin this primary past its real worth. If Romney wins, they'll say it was a must-win for Newt. If Newt wins, they'll play up the lost-delegates angle, saying the value of the state is diminished.

Don't fall for it.

37 posted on 01/26/2012 11:45:06 PM PST by Chunga (Ron Paul is a fruitcakey jackass.)
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To: SoConPubbie

[He destroyed the Massachusetts GOP; he will do the same to the National Party.

If Romney is the nominee, the GOP is dead.
]

I’ve been on Twitter saying pretty much the same thing. This is the last gasp of the GOPE, the GOPElite, they just don’t realize how badly they’ve damaged themselves. A third party is pretty much guaranteed if Romney gets the nomination.


38 posted on 01/26/2012 11:45:06 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Newt is still drawing thousands while mitt is drawing huundeds or less. mitt is as thoroughly unlikeable as any man wearing skin I have ever seen and it shows.
He might have given a few good stump answers during the debate tonight, but they were insincere and do not comport with his world view nor his religious views.
For instance, Mormons have been baptizing dead Jews for many years even though we have repeatedly asked them to desist from this practice. So his newfound love for Jews and Israel is more or less a crock.
Further, bain and its partners do love shariah banking and all that it entails.
mitt, if anything, is even more ‘quirky’ than Newt, a plasticc man with a plasric soul. This is something that cannot be hidden for very long.
And don’t sell Newt short. Anyone with half a brain can see what is going on.
If Sarah begins to speak about what mitt and his minions have done to her, it is over. I note she is already becoming angry at the array of establishment forces libed up against Newt, and I don’t think she will stay quiet much longer.


39 posted on 01/26/2012 11:45:59 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

Not yet, but West sure talks glowingly about him. I wish he would have endorsed him.

I’m pretty much disappointed in Sarah Palin.

She needed to endorse him for Florida too.

I see where she stuck up for him again, but “Come On”!


40 posted on 01/26/2012 11:46:34 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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41 posted on 01/26/2012 11:48:12 PM PST by bd476
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think at this time focus all energy and thoughts on the primary process, this is the key chance now to make the Republican party more to your liking


42 posted on 01/26/2012 11:49:00 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: MestaMachine

WHAT? Mormons are baptizing dead Jews? OMG!


43 posted on 01/26/2012 11:49:24 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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To: MestaMachine
If Gingrich can stay within the margin of error I think he will be OK in Florida. I have a feeling that his support (the grass roots people) are nearly impossible to pole. They don't answer the phone if it isn't somebody they know and aren't particularly interested in telling other people what they think. They are too busy living their lives and taking care of their business. They don't have time for chatter.

At least that's us.

44 posted on 01/26/2012 11:49:53 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; calcowgirl; org.whodat; ...
RE :”It's looking more and more like the RINO, country club, elitist attacks on Newt Gingrich are having their intended effect and that Mitt Romney will win in Florida and possibly take the Republican nomination. I don't know about you, but I'm up to **here** with the “lesser of two evils” nonsense and I very much doubt that Mitt will choose Sarah Palin or someone like her as his VP. What to do, then? I'm open to any and all suggestions.

Very simple, if Romney gets it then do what I and many anti-RINO freepers did in 2008 when we were offered no choice which was Obama or McCain: Follow your conscience. I had decided early in 2008 that a McCain presidency at that time would have resulted (effectively) even worse than Obama. That is something to weigh in November as I will do with ANY nominee.

Romney had the 'big' Republican money and the early organization start and he made sure he could get on all the state ballots and fund ads in all the critical ones.

Newt didn't help himself or us in the long run by attacking Romney from the left on Getting rich in American, amnesty and against third party ads (citizen's united and swift boating) under the guise, as it was explained to me here by a few freepers, that he needed to do that to ‘win’. Nailing Romney for being a liberal consistently would have been a better strategy.

45 posted on 01/26/2012 11:51:57 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: wardaddy

I will never vote for Romney in the general.

As to local and state GOP candidates, they damn well better be conservative by my mores, or to Hades with them too.

I am at the point of no more of the same old same old.


46 posted on 01/26/2012 11:52:06 PM PST by Sea Parrot (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss. Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: onyx

It’s possuble that her contract with Fox prohibits her from making an outright endorsement. She will have to find a way around it the way she did for Georgia.


47 posted on 01/26/2012 11:55:22 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will likely end up only voting in state races. The GOP elites have stated that they will primary challenge Tea Party republicans in Congress and replace them with RINO’s, and will let those Tea Party members in the House flail in the wind during the general and allow the Dems to retake those seats should the challenge fail.

Furthermore, the GOP elite has said that they will leave Scott Walker to his own devices to defend himself in Wisconsin.


48 posted on 01/26/2012 11:56:15 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: SoConPubbie
GWB never saw a big spending bill he didn't like and signed fast as he could. And the GOP establishment congress critters sent them up to him fast as they could.
49 posted on 01/26/2012 11:59:10 PM PST by Sea Parrot (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss. Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2
Santorum has to get out or he’s giving it to Romney.. and he can forget EVER trying to run again if he causes Romney to be the nominee.

Our appeals to his logic are falling on deaf ears. Either Santo really believes that he still has a chance to win the nomination, or he just doesn't give a damn about the calculus of him drawing votes away from Newt.

My personal sense of the man, is that he's too selfish to notice or care about the fact that he's splitting the conservative vote just enough to give Florida to Mitt.

50 posted on 01/27/2012 12:02:00 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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