Skip to comments.WAR: If They Succeed in Forcing a Romney Nomination On Us, The GOP Establishment Must Be Destroyed
Posted on 01/30/2012 5:52:43 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
A month ago -when the Republican primary contest began to get ugly- it already seemed intra-party chasms that developed over this cycle would be taking some time to heal. We all still assumed that 'anybody but Obama' would get us together in the end, though...yet no longer: there's simply no dealing with the self-serving syndicate that's re-written history and gang-raped Newt Gingrich just to stick us with some fake conservative scumbag. The TEA Party movement is on the verge of extinction if we fail to go on the offensive- and I mean now.
The same ones trashing Gingrich are also shielding the voters from Willard's many dubious dealings, but who would expect the MSM/Left to be quite so helpful come the fall. And don't talk about money, either... Obama's got more... much more! Since Romney has no leg to stand on but well-financed politics of destruction (and he's not all that different from the incumbent) as GOP nominee he would enjoy no notable advantages in November.
If we could take anything positive from such a catastrophe, perhaps it would be the future ability to bring conservatives to power in this country to deal with whatever ashes remain in 2016.
But if they do manage to make Romney the Republican nominee against the majority of the party's wishes -which most punters still see to be the most likely outcome- we must face some grim realities:
This is the type of manipulation/denial of basic democratic rights that stokes the flames of revolution: I advocate a peaceful revolution to destroy the Republican Party establishment, if not the party in it's entirety (if it cannot be conquered). This can be brought about by denying Romney votes (and the White House) while boycotting all the politicians and pundits that enabled it.
Apparently the owner of the democrat party says the only difference in Obama and Romney is the ‘crowd’ they bring with them.
“Well, look, either youll have an extremist conservative, be it Gingrich or Santorum, in which case I think it will make a big difference which of the two comes in,” he told Chrystia Freeland of Reuters in a videotaped interview. “If its between Obama and Romney, there isnt all that much difference except for the crowd that they bring with them.”
I don't think we can. Like Scotland Yard, the Republican establishment always gets its man. Why? because all our little primary voters seem to know is whose "turn it is."
I will never vote for Romney nor will my family and the usual trick of putting someone like Sarah on the ticket won’t work either this time.
The RNC, establishment, FOX, Drudge have all over played their hand in their disgusting biased attacks .
The RNC thinks we’ll just vote because we hate obama.
FOX thinks that we will still watch them once they have done their damage and they pull back.
FOX had on a woman from the Bush years named Dee Dee and she said that Newt shops at Tiffany’s, he is the insider and elitist and he has non chance of beating obama.
Shen then goes onto say Romney is better a person, he can beat obama, he was a business man.
Basically telling us conservatives sit down shut up and you vote for who we want because you lot are too dumb to think and we decide who the nominee is not you.
Romney has ran to the left of Kennedy in MA, has voted for Dems, given money to Dems and has done nothing, NOTHING for the republican party and when asked what have you done for the conservative cause he answers
“I got married, had children and went into private business”
WTH and the fox, Drudge, much of talk radio ignore this pathetic attempt of an answer .
If anyone knows anyone in this state of FL please convince them to vote for Newt.
One person getting 10 votes, thus those 10 getting another ten can help Newt and defeat this elitist establishment
I’ve asked once before and now I’ll ask again:
I’m NOT voting for Romney(doesn’t MEAN I’m not Voting).
Will I be blamed for Obama being re-elected?
It's time to write off the GOP. They are the Liberal Party while the Democrats are the Communist party.
We need a REAL Conservative Party and if the GOP nominates Willard, go TEA PARTY as a national party.
To all those who whine, "But this will guarantee four more years of Oblahblah!" I say, what's the difference? A white Mormon leftist will be no different from a black Muslim leftist.
What do you think?
If it's not too much trouble, though, please replace the picture of the “Culpeper Minutemen” flag with one of a flag which does not misspell the word “Culpeper”.
There are several flag makers out there who spell the name of my County incorrectly, but there are also a few who spell it correctly.
They nominate Romney at their peril. Down-ticket races will suffer. We’ll lose the House and forget about taking the Senate. Romney is a disaster.
Personal *ping* !
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not voting for Romney either after the way FOX, the establishment and Romney have carried themselves in all of this and attacking Newt.
If i am t blame then so be it but at least we know what we get with obama, with Romney is pretends to be a republican and yet the only difference between obama and Romney is who will get kick backs once in office and who gets paid off
The Democrat and Republican parties together have come to be a new Monarchy. They play at fighting each other over principles, and at mouthing platitudes to slake their constituencies, but neither one looks for or wants a knockout. They share power knowing that the ebb and flow of public opinion will deliver the lion’s share to each in turn.
The game is rigged.
No one with any sense will blame you. It’s not your job to support the new boss (same as the old boss).
Sorry Wayne, you are right there
I didn’t notice obviously, but I did like the style... this appears to be a painting of a flag
You know what I’m trying to say with it, I’m sure
A Romney win will do much to damage conservatism. Uninformed people will identify Romney’s statist liberalism as ‘conservatism.’ His failure will cause a renewed move to the Dems, just as it did in Massachusetts after Romney was driven from there with his tail between his legs.
Romney will trample individual rights, just as he did with Romneycare and his $50 abortions.
Of course you will. Just consider the source(s) and then choose you future course of action. I discount the opinions and analyses of "blame the voter" posters. They are of course free to have their opinions.
My opinion is that when a party loses a race, it's the party's fault.
The bottom line is Mittens is unelectable.
I refuse to accept any blame. The blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the GOP Establishment.
The GOP and their hit people in the media have decided romney is THEIR choice and if anyone goes against them, they will be destroyed. They cheated Rick Santorum out of his momentum and only gave him Iowa after a caucus worker went to the media and told them romney only had 2 votes in that county not 22. Now they expect us to believe 8 counties lost all their ballots and they still don't know who won them. I'm sure they will turn up when romney needs them to win. They pushed mccain on us last time and the only reason many people voted for him was because of Sarah. So this is our future with the RNC, they pick our president and they throw us a bone by giving us a conservative VP. We keep moving left with the nominees as we watch leftist countries like Greece self-destruct? Romney has shown he will do anything to anyone who gets in his way-Alinsky tactics. How are these people different then Obama?
Election officials were mystified Thursday as to how Iowa caucus results from two North Iowa counties were not accounted for in the certified results. State Republican party officials announced the certified results of the Jan. 3 caucuses showed former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum with a 34-vote edge over former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. Original results showed Romney as the winner by eight votes. State party officials said they did not have totals from eight precincts, including Ward 2, precinct 3 in northwest Mason City and Geneva/Reeve in Franklin County. John Rowe, Cerro Gordo County Republican chairman, said he did not know how the Mason City precinct totals were missing and didnt want to point any fingers. What is missing is Form E which is a signed copy of the vote totals that were phoned in on caucus night, he said. I sent in a foot-tall box full of forms from Cerro Gordo County for certification. There were two Form As, Form B, Form C, Form D and Form E from each precinct and there was other required paperwork as well. Out of all the forms we were required to send in, Form E is the only one that wasnt in triplicate, said Rowe. Its unfortunate. It was probably a human error on one end or the other. I dont like it being described as a `missing precinct. This was a very transparent process. Rowe said there are more than 1,700 precincts in the state and only eight were unaccounted for in the final tabulation. If my son took a physics test and got 99 percent, wed be slapping him on the back, he said. Karen Zander, Republican chairwoman in Franklin County, said she doesnt know how one of her precincts was unaccounted for. She said there were 19 voters in the precinct. Bill Schickel of Mason City, vice chairman of the state Republican party, agreed. The precinct totals would not have changed the outcome of the election, he said. This is a volunteer, grassroots-driven process. I feel badly that some precinct results were not certified. There is no perfect election. But having eight precincts uncertified out of more than 1,700 is a better certification rate than ever before, he said. Were not perfect. But this wasnt anything like other states have had, like the dangling chads in Florida. John Skipper, Mason City Globe-Gazette Election officials were mystified Thursday as to how Iowa caucus results from two North Iowa counties were not accounted for in the certified results. State Republican party officials announced the certified results of the Jan. 3 caucuses showed former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum with a 34-vote edge over former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. Original results showed Romney as the winner by eight votes. State party officials said they did not have totals from eight precincts, including Ward 2, precinct 3 in northwest Mason City and Geneva/Reeve in Franklin County. John Rowe, Cerro Gordo County Republican chairman, said he did not know how the Mason City precinct totals were missing and didnt want to point any fingers. What is missing is Form E which is a signed copy of the vote totals that were phoned in on caucus night, he said. I sent in a foot-tall box full of forms from Cerro Gordo County for certification. There were two Form As, Form B, Form C, Form D and Form E from each precinct and there was other required paperwork as well. Out of all the forms we were required to send in, Form E is the only one that wasnt in triplicate, said Rowe. Its unfortunate. It was probably a human error on one end or the other. I dont like it being described as a `missing precinct. This was a very transparent process. Rowe said there are more than 1,700 precincts in the state and only eight were unaccounted for in the final tabulation. If my son took a physics test and got 99 percent, wed be slapping him on the back, he said. Karen Zander, Republican chairwoman in Franklin County, said she doesnt know how one of her precincts was unaccounted for. She said there were 19 voters in the precinct. Bill Schickel of Mason City, vice chairman of the state Republican party, agreed. The precinct totals would not have changed the outcome of the election, he said. This is a volunteer, grassroots-driven process. I feel badly that some precinct results were not certified. There is no perfect election. But having eight precincts uncertified out of more than 1,700 is a better certification rate than ever before, he said. Were not perfect. But this wasnt anything like other states have had, like the dangling chads in Florida. John Skipper, Mason City Globe-Gazette UPDATED: Mitt Romney got 20 fewer votes in Moulton precinct, Appanoose County GOP chairman says JASON CLAYWORTH 10:57 AM, Jan 6, 2012 Categories: Caucus Insider Covering Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich More posts by Jason Clayworth Print/Email NOTE: An earlier version of this blog incorrectly reported which numbers Appanoose County GOP chairman Lyle Brinegar believes are accurate. The numbers he referenced as accurate earlier today are those sworn in the affidavit by Moulton resident Edward True. Mitt Romney received 20 fewer votes than are reported from a Moulton precinct in numbers posted by the Republican Party of Iowa, the Appanoose County GOP chairman said today. The final vote between Iowa caucuses winner Mitt Romney was eight ahead of Rick Santorum. We stand by the figures that were presented by the Moulton precinct caucus, said Lyle Brinegar, chairman of the Appanoose County GOP. Matt Strawn, chairman of the Republican Party of Iowa, continued to express confidence Friday that the order of finish will not change. He said the party would make no further comment until its two-week vote certification process is complete. Moulton resident Edward True has signed an affidavit saying that he helped count the vote at the Garrett Memorial Library in Moulton and that the precinct had two votes for Romney, not 22, as reported online by the state GOP. Brinegar says True is correct. Im not disputing what Ed True said, Brinegar said. Appanoose County has 12 caucus precincts. All but two had no votes or single-digit votes for Romney, while one had 20 votes and the Moulton site reported 22. Drake University political science professor Dennis Goldford said the results even if the certification reveals a different answer will change little other than bragging rights. Santorum, who for months remained in the single digits in polls, wildly beat expectations, and that is the real story, Goldford said. The caucuses dont result in an actual election, so theres no additional harm done in terms of having to eject a candidate from a position, Goldford noted. However, there is potential for long-term consequences regarding the credibility of the Iowa caucuses, Goldford warned. It reinforces the view from other states that the Iowa caucuses are this unreliable, amateurish event, Goldford said. 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By cutting off that nose, I'll be amputating a diseased limb that if left alone could kill this nation. The GOP needs major reform or we need a third party. Either way it's not happening if we conservatives act like good soldiers and vote Romney. Something has to change.
McCain wasn’t enough?
The same holds true even if Romney is not nominated!!!
They gave us one choice in 08’, McCain gave us Obama. They are allowing us one choice again, romney, and the results, whether he wins or loses, will still be Obama. So unless, something miraculous happens, we have Obama for another four and if Romney is elected we have Obama for potentially another eight. So I say let’s take our chances with Obama for only four.
Oh, absolutely! It's a great flag, a great message, and I proudly fly that flag in front of my house.
I realize I'm probably being overly picky, but since I actually live in Culepeper County, Virginia, that particular spelling error jumps right out at me whenever I see it.
PS - There really are flag makers out there who fail to spell Culpeper correctly on their versions of this flag (mostly imports); but the folks at Carrot-Top Industries sell very high quality, 'Made in U.S.A.', copies of the "Culpeper Minutemen" flag.
Gangrenous body parts NEED to be cut off, even noses...
No Romney, no compromise. I won’t vote for him.
You can blame me if Oblahblah gets another four years, and I’ll simply point out that fools propped up Romney knowing that a MAJORITY of the conservative voters would not vote for him. They know this now, and they still are desperately trying to put Romney in there. If they do force him in as the nom, I will vote. I will simply leave the top of the ticket blank and vote the ticket down. But I will not pull the lever for that lying POS.
A good read.
I’m a Santorum supporter, but no one is forcing Romney on us. It’s a nominating process, we get a chance to vote. For every coulter pushing for Mitt, there is a Levin or Rush pushing for Newt. I understand being 100% for your guy during the primary process but if, if Mitt is the nominee and you say there’s no difference between Romney and Obama you’re either not paying attention or are stubborn and butthurt.
Who do you mean by “they”? Primary voters? If “they” are successful in getting Romney as the nominee?
What method would you prefer to be utilized to pick the GOP nominee if not by votes in primaries?
I AGREE: THE REPUBLICAN PARTY MUST BE KILLED; if they force Romney on us.
>> I actually live in Culepeper County <<
Spell-check is your friend.
More to the point, who IS the "Republican Establishment". It's not just a handful of people in the RNC -- it's tens of thousands of party officials and politicians in every little district across the country. They are the ones who benefit from the government being a mess (because they are the ones called upon by business owners and private citizens to fix problems that the broken government creates). It's a big organization to take over.
If Mitt is the Nominee, it starts right then.
We must either take our party back, and failing that, coalesce around a new conservative party to replace the GOP.
Because if Mitt is the nominee, the GOP is dead.
1. They said romney had 22 votes when he had only two & DID NOT CORRECT it until romney won NH. Sports fans know how important momentum is. I have 3 hockey players. Thank God for the man who went to the media, when no one else would listen.
2. Now we have 8 precincts missing all there votes? We aren't stupid, we can see when cheating is going on.
With Mitt, either way it’s dead.
As president he’ll ruin what remains of the GOP brand, but as A LOSER to Obama even worse.... this guy is bad news
But Newt’s got a viable long term strategy,
the guy’s no quitter and still has a real shot at it
Then we won’t have to resort to all this unpleasantness
We could always kick the Troofer’s out of the LP and take that over... Are they still holding most of their National meetings at Denny’s?
I wouldn’t add a thing to this, ZX
If a third party (call it the Pro-America Party) organized itself properly, it could appeal to and draw from both of the corrupt older but not immortal parties.
Reagan got a landslide with “Reagan Democrats”. There are more old fashioned Democrats who are disillusioned with Obama’s anti-Americanism, but cannot force themselves to break with family tradition and vote Republican.
If the third party stressed that we’re trying to save America AND AMERICANS from the corruption and resulting bad policies of both parties, we just might squeak out a victory.
Of course we would still have to elect TEA type people to Senate and House which means almost all Republicans. Those winners would be invited to join the Pro-America party...
I HOPE TO GOD THAT WE DON’T NEED TO GO THIS ROUTE, but if we do, I hope to God we win.
Yes. Yes, it is.
Especially for one as fumble-fingered at the keyboard as I...
; - )
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