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Marijuana Myths
TheCollegeConservative ^ | 02/03/2012 | Alan Groves

Posted on 02/03/2012 10:57:07 AM PST by gabriellah

In 2011, Gallup reported that 62% of 18-29 year olds and 50% of the general public supports the legalization of marijuana; 69% of liberals and even 34% of conservatives also support such measures. Obviously the pro-pot movement has taken root in the American populace and especially in the minds of Millennials (even managing to infiltrate the minds of the most conservative among us).

Myth #1: Legalization Would bring in Enormous Tax Revenues

The Heritage Foundation’s Charles Stimson published an extensive legal memorandum urging for the failure of the RCTC Act of 2010, which would have legalized pot in California. This memorandum debunks the myth that legalization would eliminate the black market for marijuana and would bring in enormous revenue, therefore stimulating the economy.

Dr. Rosalie Pacula, a drug policy expert at the RAND Corporation for over 15 years, testified that under the California law: “There would be tremendous profit motive for the existing black market providers to stay in the market. The only way California could effectively eliminate the black market for marijuana is to take away the substantial profits in the market and allow the price of marijuana to fall to an amount close to the cost of production. Doing so, however, will mean substantially smaller tax revenue”(Stimson 9).

In other words, simple economics expose the assumption that drug dealers would voluntarily enter the legal market, when the cost of production is virtually zero. In fact, it was calculated that “an individual will be able to produce 24,000 to 240,000 joints legally each year” (Stimson 9). This is more than any individual could possibly consume, and it is encouraging individuals to sell pot on the side, subverting taxation. Why would anyone buy marijuana legally when they would have to pay a higher price for it? It would be a much higher price considering California proposed a $50/ounce tax on top of the list price. Why would drug dealers leave the black market when they don’t have to?

Fiscal conservatives should not be lured into such intellectual inconsistency. We are not going to solve the budget crises and pay off our $15 trillion debt with whatever change is left from a feeble government attempt to tax the un-taxable.

Myth #2: Marijuana is a Victimless Drug

Marijuana has a history of being linked to crime in the United States and throughout the world. “60% of arrestees test positive for marijuana use in the United States, England, and Australia” (Stimson 6). And while many pro-legalization advocates argue that most of these marijuana users are people arrested for non-violent crimes, they fail to note that marijuana usage is strongly correlated with cocaine and other more serious drugs, as well as murder, assault, money laundering, and smuggling (Stimson 5-6). Surely, legalization advocates do not believe that all marijuana users are little angels?

In fact, in Amsterdam, one of Europe’s most violent cities, pot is legal and a prevalent aspect of society (Stimson 6). Heritage reports that “Officials are in the process of closing marijuana dispensaries, or ‘coffee shops,’ because of the crime associated with their operation” (Stimson 6).

California’s partial legalization via usage of “medical marijuana” is beginning to show the same effects. LAPD reports that areas surrounding cannabis clubs have seen a 200% increase in robberies and a 130.8% increase in aggravated assault (Stimson 6). A drug that increases crime doesn’t exactly qualify as “victimless.”

In addition to this, local communities where neighborhoods and residential housing are dominant will be adversely affected. Residents who live in areas with extensive marijuana usage have repeatedly complained about the incredible smell put off by the plants. Even worse than the smell though, is the growing crime rate in residential areas which is induced by theft of marijuana from yards where it is grown (Stimson 6).

It may be ideologically convenient for some to oversimplify the issue as a violation against individual liberty, but when all the facts are presented, it is obvious that the only liberty being violated is the blatant disregard for property rights, law, and order.

Myth #3: Marijuana = Alcohol

Legalization advocates link marijuana and alcohol as equally mild intoxicants, suggesting that they deserve equal treatment under the law. However, as the above research suggests, marijuana is more dangerous to the health and safety of society.

For better or for worse, alcohol as been part of human history for millennia. Typically, individuals responsibly self-monitor their consumption thereof. Alcohol has also been regulated by cultural norms rather than by government. Society, culture, and religion have proven to be the best regulators of alcoholic consumption. The same cannot be said of marijuana – as seen in the information presented earlier.

In addition to its lack of historical precedent in America’s historical experience, marijuana also has much more severe health effects than alcohol. 1) marijuana is far more likely than alcohol to be cause addiction, 2) it is usually consumed to the point of intoxication, 3) it has no known intrinsically healthful properties (it can only relieve pain –and artificially at that), 4) it has toxins that can result in birth defects, pain, respiratory damage, brain damage, and stroke, 5) it increases heart rate by 20% to 100% elevating the risk of heart attack (Stimson 4).

In relation to history, economics, and health, marijuana is nothing like alcohol.

Conclusion: Conservatives should not be afraid to combat the growing sentiment that supports the legalization of marijuana. Economics, historical precedent, and conservative principles are all on our side. It is up to unashamed, unapologetic young conservatives to articulate that message and continue to stand for ordered liberty.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
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To: gabriellah

Let’s make cigarettes illegal and we can all smoke legal Marijuana.

Makes a lot of sense doesn’t it? /s/


151 posted on 02/03/2012 1:11:20 PM PST by Venturer
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To: easternsky
That's easily explained: the ones with unscrambled brains are able to hid their use.

I work with the Children of all abusers. Alcohol, Drugs, Prescription, and street. Try and explain to them its okay for all the users and abusers to control their intake and not affect others.

Should we protect the children of alcohol abusers by banning alcohol?

The Children say YES

Thanks for the update, Mrs. Clinton.

152 posted on 02/03/2012 1:11:57 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: AnTiw1

We shall overcome
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Oh, deep in my heart
I do believe
We shall overcome some day

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;^)


153 posted on 02/03/2012 1:12:30 PM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: AlmaKing

Gun control, huh?

You equate marijuana to guns?

Tell me, do you advocate owning a weapon? Being a responsible gun owner? I’m guessing you do.

I’m also guessing that - if legal - you would use pot also. And have no problems with your children smoking pot.


154 posted on 02/03/2012 1:13:25 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Osage Orange

Amazing....how you can’t understand that I can grow tobacco, and make wine, and brew beer..without any “gubmint interference”.

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Do you?

I didn’t think so.


155 posted on 02/03/2012 1:15:08 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd

I am perfectly capable of reading your inane, insulting posts in their entirety. The government does not interfere AT ALL if you produce these things for personal consumption. You are the one who should learn to read. Maybe you should try posting your next reply ten times.


156 posted on 02/03/2012 1:15:55 PM PST by ladyrustic
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To: gdani

that is absurd.

smoking has zero control of dosage since the plant and quality control would vary.

pills are inspected for quantity control. Liability laws are there for those who fail to maintain proper quality control.

The fact is there are pot heads who will always refuse to look at science in favor of a delusion.


157 posted on 02/03/2012 1:16:09 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Wissa

Do you know anyone who grows their own tomotoes? I bet you do.

Now. Tell me ANYONE who grows his own tobacco.


158 posted on 02/03/2012 1:17:04 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: AnTiw1
Dude or dudette....lighten up.

Yes, I've worked in many ER's "as I said". Have worked for years in a NICU, and ICU's, etc, and continue to so...

Of course I have an argument...and I'm not being dishonest. If you don't think...some pot smoker hasn't done something stupid and died after smoking dope...then I don't know what to tell you.

You're a bit knew here...so I'm going to leave it at that. Won't even call you names. Ha!!

FWIW

159 posted on 02/03/2012 1:17:32 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Now answer these:

Really? Can you grow your own tobacco? Can you distill your own booze?

Not without a ton of gubmint interference, you can’t.

Apart from limits on amount, what "gubmint interference" is there on home-brewing?

And the same thing would happen if ever pot was legalized. If you think Big Brother would let you grow a few plants in your back yard without taxing them, then you are missing the point.

Home brewed alcohol is not taxed (as far as I know).

The main point of legalizing dope is to tax it and increase the size of government.

Again... just like with tobacco and booze.

So it would be better to ban tobacco and booze than to let government tax them? You really think that's the small-government position?

160 posted on 02/03/2012 1:18:32 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Not without a ton of gubmint interference, you can’t.

Funny, the Govt has never interfered when I've brewed beer at my house or at a friend's.

I know that must make someone like yourself, who champions the Govt criminalizing what people put in their bodies & destroying the Fourth Amendment, very sad.

161 posted on 02/03/2012 1:18:32 PM PST by gdani
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To: Responsibility2nd

162 posted on 02/03/2012 1:19:21 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Responsibility2nd

What the hell is wrong with you?


163 posted on 02/03/2012 1:20:04 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

164 posted on 02/03/2012 1:21:29 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Not without a ton of gubmint interference, you can’t.”

And I gather from your subsequent reiteration(in color and large fonts) of this meme that you are in favor of it - the ‘gubmint interference’, that is.

Well, Mr. Responsibility2nd, what’s your view of your responsibity1st?

I’m guessing that it’s currying favor with the ‘gubmint cronies’.


165 posted on 02/03/2012 1:22:33 PM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: Responsibility2nd

166 posted on 02/03/2012 1:22:45 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Apparently you don't know much......

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&cp=18&gs_id=4a&xhr=t&q=growing+your+own+tobacco&pf=p&biw=1600&bih=710&sclient=psy-ab&pbx=1&oq=growing+your+own+t&aq=0&aqi=g4&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=75e373fb72088952

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

167 posted on 02/03/2012 1:23:35 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: longtermmemmory
smoking has zero control of dosage since the plant and quality control would vary.

One puff vs 5 puffs vs 20 puffs. How is that not controlling dosage?

pills are inspected for quantity control. Liability laws are there for those who fail to maintain proper quality control.

The issue is not quality control. The issue is Marinol is so strong, as it is meant to be, that it has too many side effects for people who want lower amounts of THC.

It's really not that hard to understand.

168 posted on 02/03/2012 1:24:07 PM PST by gdani
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To: gdani
I'm not all that into booze. So I don't drink it, much less make it. But I do know enough to think twice before believing your claims.
 
Home brewing is legal? Maybe. Maybe not.
 


169 posted on 02/03/2012 1:26:11 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd
That says nothing to the fact that crime in California is down and declining.

Sort of like the usual suspects said that when more and more States passed concealed carry permits the prediction was of Old West style shootouts and rampant gun crime.

Gun crime is down, and went down further in concealed carry States than otherwise.

So the usual suspects rounded up statistics of dubious importance to try to distract from the FACT that crime is down overall and their predictions of gloom and doom didn't pan out.

They cite that neighbors complain! They cite that people with guns are more likely to be the victims of crime, not knowing or caring that there is a self selection bias at play - those in risk of criminality tend to arm themselves.

They cite any and all numbers that they think carry water for them.

But their predictions didn't pan out.

Crime overall is down.

170 posted on 02/03/2012 1:26:11 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: CodeToad

I never said anything about legislating anything. Was just offering a few tidbits, sorry got everybody Torked. This is still FR, and we still have our right to opinions as long as Jim says.


171 posted on 02/03/2012 1:26:19 PM PST by easternsky
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To: rottndog
I'm not all that into booze. So I don't drink it, much less make it. But I do know enough to think twice before believing your claims.
 
Home brewing is legal? Maybe. Maybe not.
 


172 posted on 02/03/2012 1:26:40 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd
Now. Tell me ANYONE who grows his own tobacco.

I've seen forums where they discuss how to grow it and cure it and where to get seeds. I've considered doing it myself.

The reason more people don't do it is the effort involved. I'm not aware of any government restrictions on growing it for personal use.

Unless you can come up with a link to back up your claim, the only conclusion I can reach is that you believe that the world simply must be the way you say it is, regardless of a lack of any actual evidence to back up your beliefs.

173 posted on 02/03/2012 1:28:09 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: Responsibility2nd
But I do know enough to think twice before believing your claims.

Yes, my truly outlandish claims that I've brewed beer in the privacy of my own home (and friends') without government interference.

174 posted on 02/03/2012 1:28:40 PM PST by gdani
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Home brewed alcohol is not taxed (as far as I know).

You are correct.

175 posted on 02/03/2012 1:28:59 PM PST by houeto (Mitt Romney - A Whiter Shade of FAIL © - tomkat)
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To: Osage Orange

What the hell is wrong with you?

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lololol

I scored a direct hit, I see. Why don’t you start calling me names, now?

THAT will show me.

lololol


176 posted on 02/03/2012 1:29:30 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: rottndog

Wow!

Is that on the New York Times best seller list? Number 1 on Amazon.com?

lolol


177 posted on 02/03/2012 1:31:12 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd

I have yet to read a thread on FR about some government jack boots with a no-knock warrant kicking down someones door, shooting their dog, and arresting them for making some home brew from a kit the LEGALLY bought from a store...


178 posted on 02/03/2012 1:32:45 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: discostu

Actually the last couple of concerts I’ve been to Security was harassing anybody who dared to smoke a Cigarette but if you lit a joint they’d leave you alone


179 posted on 02/03/2012 1:32:53 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: wideawake
"The end of Prohibition in 1933 was a painful blow to organized crime, which had made considerable amounts of money from it." - THE BEGINNING OF ORGANIZED CRIME IN EAST ST. LOUIS, by Andrew Theising, Ph. D.
180 posted on 02/03/2012 1:33:01 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: rottndog

I saw that book!

Here...

http://moderndrunkardmagazine.com/index.html

(lolol)


181 posted on 02/03/2012 1:33:25 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd
Actually I meant it.

You ought to look in the mirror.

Just about every post replying to you....trumps what you are saying...or attempting to say.

Ya got problems bubby....

182 posted on 02/03/2012 1:33:37 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It’s absolute proof that people in America brew their own beer, distill their own alcohol, and grow their own tobacco, FOR THEIR PERSONAL USE, without government interference.

The same would be true if marijuana was legalized.


183 posted on 02/03/2012 1:35:49 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: AnTiw1
I fought and Bled for this Country, as did others and AM just as entitled to my opinion as you are. You do your thing and I will do mine, and God can sort it out.
184 posted on 02/03/2012 1:35:49 PM PST by easternsky
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To: Osage Orange
"Dude or dudette....lighten up. Yes, I've worked in many ER's "as I said". Have worked for years in a NICU, and ICU's, etc, and continue to so... Of course I have an argument...and I'm not being dishonest. If you don't think...some pot smoker hasn't done something stupid and died after smoking dope...then I don't know what to tell you. You're a bit knew here...so I'm going to leave it at that. Won't even call you names. Ha!! FWIW "

Just to be clear, YOU are the one who thinks your enforced morality should send my friends to jail, so I think I've been remarkably "enlightened" so far.

Second, I did not say you were dishonest, just that I did not trust you to be honest. I stated that more people died in one day from consumption of alcohol tobacco in this country than have died globally from the consumption of cannabis, since the beginning of time. I was confident making that assertion, because there has never been a documented case of ANYONE dying from consumption of cannabis. You see, it was a trap. I will give you credit that you knew what the answer was, because you didn't even try a "friend of a friend heard someone died" anecdote to save your position. What you DID do, was try to change the argument, from "cannabis has never killed anyone", to trying to say I claimed cannabis has never made anyone "do anything stupid."

I certainly don't claim that. After all, you're not a cannabis user, and you continued to argue long after you knew you were wrong. THAT was kinda stupid. (And kinda sleazy to try to mislead the argument the way you did.)

185 posted on 02/03/2012 1:36:40 PM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

No federal laws against home brewing.

“These states have laws against it:

Delaware
Iowa
Kentucky
Mississippi
Ohio
Oklahoma

“These states have laws that are ambiguous at best:

Louisiana
Maine
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Mexico
New York


186 posted on 02/03/2012 1:36:51 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Osage Orange

Way upthread I shut up another liberal with this question. So I’ll ask you the same thing:

Name me one conservative who is in favor of legalizing marijuana. Just one.

“Ya got problems bubby....”

I do. I really do. I’m on a so-called conservative site with liberals who side with Barney Frank and Ron Paul.


187 posted on 02/03/2012 1:38:53 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: gabriellah
In fact, in Amsterdam, one of Europe’s most violent cities, pot is legal and a prevalent aspect of society (Stimson 6).

Garbage. Now for the facts:

With three days to go until 2012, there have been 163 murders in the Netherlands this year, five fewer than in 2010, according to the annual Elsevier magazine survey.

In 2009, there were 178 murders. Most murders - 16 - took place in Amsterdam, the same as in 2010.

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/12/murder_rate_drops_slightly.php

Amsterdam is as safe as the safest US cities.

188 posted on 02/03/2012 1:40:15 PM PST by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: gabriellah

“Obviously the pro-pot movement has taken root in the American populace and especially in the minds of Millennials”

What the fudge are “Millennials”? Why do we feel the need to name generations, let alone coming up with stupider and stupider ones?


189 posted on 02/03/2012 1:40:41 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Responsibility2nd
I’m on a so-called conservative site with liberals who side with Barney Frank and Ron Paul

No, you're on a conservative site where many people truly believe in small government and the Fourth Amendment.

Two simple questions:

1) Do you support the War on Drugs?
2) Do you think alcohol should be made illegal?

190 posted on 02/03/2012 1:43:10 PM PST by gdani
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Name me one conservative who is in favor of legalizing marijuana. Just one.”

Milton Friedman
http://www.druglibrary.org/special/friedman/milton_friedman.htm

Rich Lowry
http://old.nationalreview.com/20aug01/lowry082001.shtml
http://article.nationalreview.com/275706/the-war-on-pot/rich-lowry

Gary Johnson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsowQ0hE9gA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo6NbulobBA

Judge Andrew Napolitano
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2GG2aM6UII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZZH8h8p9Hk

Glenn Beck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQoCWQ2UnJo

Tom Tancredo
http://www.westword.com/2009-10-29/news/tom-tancredo-wants-to-turn-marijuana-into-the-toke-of-the-town/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDi8UXojlMY

Bob Barr
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-barr/federal-drug-war-rethough_b_125458.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPRPRmr8G4I

Grover Norquist
http://counterpunch.org/gardner01292006.html

George Shultz
http://www.drugpolicy.org/library/1989shultzwsj.cfm

Ron Paul
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwNYgfCVLXw#t=0m45s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8ZwH8xJmME

Pat Robertson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQi7A5MW2kQ

Thomas Sowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZbHndilYsI


191 posted on 02/03/2012 1:45:30 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: wideawake

“just as the end of Prohibition had negligible impact on organized crime in America

Unless you are prepared to argue that the mob ceased to exist on December 5, 1933.”

It didn’t disappear, no, but that’s because it had other laws to exploit, such as those governing organized labor, heroin, gambling, and prostitution. Not to mention they never again owned an entire city like they did prohibition Chicago.


192 posted on 02/03/2012 1:48:21 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: gdani

1. Yes.

2. It already is. There are more laws controlling the sale and useage of alcohol now than there was during Prohibition.


193 posted on 02/03/2012 1:48:35 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: AnTiw1
Okay Mr. "Enlightened".

Here's what you said....You know we have this crazy ability to go back and post your own words again.

"You've worked in many ER's? I HAVE worked in many ERs, ICUs, NICUs, and ORs. If you've worked in ERs as you say, you know you have no argument. If not, you're both clueless AND dishonest.

You started off...attempting to frame my statement of working in ER's....a lie. Then you said...even if I had..you implied I was clueless and dishonest.

If that's not call me exactly what you wrote...I dunno what is.

And let's be crystal clear here Mr. "Enlightened"....I actually think pot ought to be decriminalized. Don't know where you got that the idea that I want to send you and your buds to jail. LOL!!!

Not going to address the other B.S.

You will have the last word, NOOB.

194 posted on 02/03/2012 1:50:32 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Do you think alcohol should be made illegal?

It already is. There are more laws controlling the sale and useage of alcohol now than there was during Prohibition.

You seriously think number of laws measures degree of illegality? It takes only one law to say, "No booze, never, nohow."

195 posted on 02/03/2012 1:50:45 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: dblshot

“Can I enjoy a concert filled with pot smoke if I am subject to losing my job if I fail a wiz quiz?”

That is a very narrow concern, first of all. More importantly, how is that a new problem? Will there really be all that more pot smoking at concerts should pot be legal? There’s plenty enough of it now.


196 posted on 02/03/2012 1:51:37 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Lame attempt at humor, there FRiend.

Mostly libs on that list of yours.


197 posted on 02/03/2012 1:51:56 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Hell no!

Next thing after that we'd probably demand steroid screening!

198 posted on 02/03/2012 1:51:56 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Mostly libs on that list of yours.

Mostly means not all. If there's one conservative, I've met your challenge.

199 posted on 02/03/2012 1:53:31 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
1. Yes.

It is truly a shame you consider yourself a conservative but fail to see (or simply don't care) what the WOD has done to the Fourth Amendment.

2. It already is. There are more laws controlling the sale and useage of alcohol now than there was during Prohibition.

You really want to go on record saying alcohol is illegal? Your choice.

And given your answer to #1, I assume you have zero problem with alcohol being controlled and regulated in its current form.

By the way, you did not answer #2. I'll ask it again -- Do you think alcohol should be made illegal?

200 posted on 02/03/2012 1:55:12 PM PST by gdani
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