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Marijuana Myths
TheCollegeConservative ^ | 02/03/2012 | Alan Groves

Posted on 02/03/2012 10:57:07 AM PST by gabriellah

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To: rottndog

I saw that book!

Here...

http://moderndrunkardmagazine.com/index.html

(lolol)


181 posted on 02/03/2012 1:33:25 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Responsibility2nd
Actually I meant it.

You ought to look in the mirror.

Just about every post replying to you....trumps what you are saying...or attempting to say.

Ya got problems bubby....

182 posted on 02/03/2012 1:33:37 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It’s absolute proof that people in America brew their own beer, distill their own alcohol, and grow their own tobacco, FOR THEIR PERSONAL USE, without government interference.

The same would be true if marijuana was legalized.


183 posted on 02/03/2012 1:35:49 PM PST by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: AnTiw1
I fought and Bled for this Country, as did others and AM just as entitled to my opinion as you are. You do your thing and I will do mine, and God can sort it out.
184 posted on 02/03/2012 1:35:49 PM PST by easternsky
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To: Osage Orange
"Dude or dudette....lighten up. Yes, I've worked in many ER's "as I said". Have worked for years in a NICU, and ICU's, etc, and continue to so... Of course I have an argument...and I'm not being dishonest. If you don't think...some pot smoker hasn't done something stupid and died after smoking dope...then I don't know what to tell you. You're a bit knew here...so I'm going to leave it at that. Won't even call you names. Ha!! FWIW "

Just to be clear, YOU are the one who thinks your enforced morality should send my friends to jail, so I think I've been remarkably "enlightened" so far.

Second, I did not say you were dishonest, just that I did not trust you to be honest. I stated that more people died in one day from consumption of alcohol tobacco in this country than have died globally from the consumption of cannabis, since the beginning of time. I was confident making that assertion, because there has never been a documented case of ANYONE dying from consumption of cannabis. You see, it was a trap. I will give you credit that you knew what the answer was, because you didn't even try a "friend of a friend heard someone died" anecdote to save your position. What you DID do, was try to change the argument, from "cannabis has never killed anyone", to trying to say I claimed cannabis has never made anyone "do anything stupid."

I certainly don't claim that. After all, you're not a cannabis user, and you continued to argue long after you knew you were wrong. THAT was kinda stupid. (And kinda sleazy to try to mislead the argument the way you did.)

185 posted on 02/03/2012 1:36:40 PM PST by AnTiw1 (I lived through a mormon hell, I will not live in a country with a mormon president.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

No federal laws against home brewing.

“These states have laws against it:

Delaware
Iowa
Kentucky
Mississippi
Ohio
Oklahoma

“These states have laws that are ambiguous at best:

Louisiana
Maine
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Mexico
New York


186 posted on 02/03/2012 1:36:51 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Osage Orange

Way upthread I shut up another liberal with this question. So I’ll ask you the same thing:

Name me one conservative who is in favor of legalizing marijuana. Just one.

“Ya got problems bubby....”

I do. I really do. I’m on a so-called conservative site with liberals who side with Barney Frank and Ron Paul.


187 posted on 02/03/2012 1:38:53 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: gabriellah
In fact, in Amsterdam, one of Europe’s most violent cities, pot is legal and a prevalent aspect of society (Stimson 6).

Garbage. Now for the facts:

With three days to go until 2012, there have been 163 murders in the Netherlands this year, five fewer than in 2010, according to the annual Elsevier magazine survey.

In 2009, there were 178 murders. Most murders - 16 - took place in Amsterdam, the same as in 2010.

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/12/murder_rate_drops_slightly.php

Amsterdam is as safe as the safest US cities.

188 posted on 02/03/2012 1:40:15 PM PST by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: gabriellah

“Obviously the pro-pot movement has taken root in the American populace and especially in the minds of Millennials”

What the fudge are “Millennials”? Why do we feel the need to name generations, let alone coming up with stupider and stupider ones?


189 posted on 02/03/2012 1:40:41 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Responsibility2nd
I’m on a so-called conservative site with liberals who side with Barney Frank and Ron Paul

No, you're on a conservative site where many people truly believe in small government and the Fourth Amendment.

Two simple questions:

1) Do you support the War on Drugs?
2) Do you think alcohol should be made illegal?

190 posted on 02/03/2012 1:43:10 PM PST by gdani
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Name me one conservative who is in favor of legalizing marijuana. Just one.”

Milton Friedman
http://www.druglibrary.org/special/friedman/milton_friedman.htm

Rich Lowry
http://old.nationalreview.com/20aug01/lowry082001.shtml
http://article.nationalreview.com/275706/the-war-on-pot/rich-lowry

Gary Johnson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsowQ0hE9gA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo6NbulobBA

Judge Andrew Napolitano
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2GG2aM6UII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZZH8h8p9Hk

Glenn Beck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQoCWQ2UnJo

Tom Tancredo
http://www.westword.com/2009-10-29/news/tom-tancredo-wants-to-turn-marijuana-into-the-toke-of-the-town/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDi8UXojlMY

Bob Barr
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-barr/federal-drug-war-rethough_b_125458.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPRPRmr8G4I

Grover Norquist
http://counterpunch.org/gardner01292006.html

George Shultz
http://www.drugpolicy.org/library/1989shultzwsj.cfm

Ron Paul
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwNYgfCVLXw#t=0m45s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8ZwH8xJmME

Pat Robertson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQi7A5MW2kQ

Thomas Sowell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZbHndilYsI


191 posted on 02/03/2012 1:45:30 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: wideawake

“just as the end of Prohibition had negligible impact on organized crime in America

Unless you are prepared to argue that the mob ceased to exist on December 5, 1933.”

It didn’t disappear, no, but that’s because it had other laws to exploit, such as those governing organized labor, heroin, gambling, and prostitution. Not to mention they never again owned an entire city like they did prohibition Chicago.


192 posted on 02/03/2012 1:48:21 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: gdani

1. Yes.

2. It already is. There are more laws controlling the sale and useage of alcohol now than there was during Prohibition.


193 posted on 02/03/2012 1:48:35 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: AnTiw1
Okay Mr. "Enlightened".

Here's what you said....You know we have this crazy ability to go back and post your own words again.

"You've worked in many ER's? I HAVE worked in many ERs, ICUs, NICUs, and ORs. If you've worked in ERs as you say, you know you have no argument. If not, you're both clueless AND dishonest.

You started off...attempting to frame my statement of working in ER's....a lie. Then you said...even if I had..you implied I was clueless and dishonest.

If that's not call me exactly what you wrote...I dunno what is.

And let's be crystal clear here Mr. "Enlightened"....I actually think pot ought to be decriminalized. Don't know where you got that the idea that I want to send you and your buds to jail. LOL!!!

Not going to address the other B.S.

You will have the last word, NOOB.

194 posted on 02/03/2012 1:50:32 PM PST by Osage Orange (A clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Do you think alcohol should be made illegal?

It already is. There are more laws controlling the sale and useage of alcohol now than there was during Prohibition.

You seriously think number of laws measures degree of illegality? It takes only one law to say, "No booze, never, nohow."

195 posted on 02/03/2012 1:50:45 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: dblshot

“Can I enjoy a concert filled with pot smoke if I am subject to losing my job if I fail a wiz quiz?”

That is a very narrow concern, first of all. More importantly, how is that a new problem? Will there really be all that more pot smoking at concerts should pot be legal? There’s plenty enough of it now.


196 posted on 02/03/2012 1:51:37 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Lame attempt at humor, there FRiend.

Mostly libs on that list of yours.


197 posted on 02/03/2012 1:51:56 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This mean Liberals and/or Libertarians (Same Thing) NO LIBS.))
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Hell no!

Next thing after that we'd probably demand steroid screening!

198 posted on 02/03/2012 1:51:56 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Mostly libs on that list of yours.

Mostly means not all. If there's one conservative, I've met your challenge.

199 posted on 02/03/2012 1:53:31 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
1. Yes.

It is truly a shame you consider yourself a conservative but fail to see (or simply don't care) what the WOD has done to the Fourth Amendment.

2. It already is. There are more laws controlling the sale and useage of alcohol now than there was during Prohibition.

You really want to go on record saying alcohol is illegal? Your choice.

And given your answer to #1, I assume you have zero problem with alcohol being controlled and regulated in its current form.

By the way, you did not answer #2. I'll ask it again -- Do you think alcohol should be made illegal?

200 posted on 02/03/2012 1:55:12 PM PST by gdani
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