Posted on 02/03/2012 2:19:38 PM PST by GregNH
We just spoke with plaintiff Kevin Powell and he reports Judge Malihi has ruled against the Plaintiffs and stated in his order that Obama was born in Hawaii and therefore Obama is a natural born Citizen.
(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...
There may or may not be a smiley face on that fake birth certificate, but the word “the” is most definitely misspelled. Not on ANY OTHER document out of Hawaii. Just on that stamp certifying that his fake document is real.
Just looked in to see if anything interesting was going on, and saw this stunner. Breathtaking. Infuriating.
First impression: this is the Malihi edition of Obama’s Friday night document dump.
The Kenyan and lawyer tell the Judge to go fark himself......They make hundreds of calls to the Governor, Attorney General and anyone else they can think of to pressure the judge holding the fact finding hearing. More than likely, physical threats were made against the judge's family
Precedent set:
Anyone can get on the Georgia ballot to run for the highest office in the Country. If ever asked for proof of eligibility tell the courts, SOS and the powers that be to STICK IT!!. I don't have to provide you with a farking thing and you will kiss my ass, go to great lengths to create excuses for me, make up 'law' for me even though I've provided you with no legal documention whatsoever. Not even a blank piece of paper. Then you'll put me on the ballot anyway like the good apparatchik POS that you are........
I wrote a reply...but there was smoke coming out of my ears when I wrote it, so I sent it freepmail.
I would grant that the Founders, many of whom were attorneys, understood citizenship before the Revolution in terms of English law, under which Acts of Parliament overrode common law traditions. Unlike the author of the Arkeny decision, or Judge Malihi, they would have been aware of the British Nationality Acts of 1730 and 1772, both of which bestow status as “natural born subjects” to the offspring of natural born subject FATHERS (not parents, not mothers — the sexist pigs stipulated FATHERS). English law regarding citizenship as the Founders would have understood it serves much better for denying Obama American nbc status than granting it. (I realize that internet discussion will change nothing about this farce, and I agree with most of your post. I just find the recourse to common law to be inapplicable).
Interestingly, I also have an older child who is a naturalized citizen who...since taking the naturalization oath, renounced their former citizenship and therefor no longer eligible to hold a passport, vote or be subject to a military draft in that foreign country. YET, being (only) a U.S. citizen now, is NOT eligible to be the President of this country.
Amazing, the irony.
Oh yeah, I also have a 2 citizen parent, born in the U.S. natural born Citizen child as well :). I know...complicated.
If a dual national, who owes allegience to two countries, can be President...naturalized citizens should be eligible as well since they specifically renounced their former allegience. I don't agree with that, but that's the logical extension here.
It was an administrative hearing, not a trial. The judge was not restricted to the information provided by the plaintiffs. He simply researched the applicable case law. While the plaintiff’s case was not disputed by the defendant, that does not automatically make it true. The judge compared the plaintiffs case to existing case law and found it lacking.
Occam’s Razor, David. You’re so right. It’s so sad.
I made several attempts at a reply, and cancelled them all...of course you are right, David. And it is sad, Greenperson. Now we can get on with the next phase. Who is he, who were his parents, where was he born? And what was his name at birth?
Because his mother wasn’t SAD, the place of birth wasn’t Hawaii, and his father wasn’t the son of a kenyan goat herder.
“Thank you for the emotionally devoid opinion. Very basic to grasp. My personal opinion that is also devoid of emotion and is basic to grasp is that the judge is compromised.”
I tend to agree with you about the judge. Believe me, I myself am not emotionally devoid. I’m sick to my stomach, along with many others who love our country.
Thanks, David. I was trying to apply some good, old common sense to a situation that didn’t seem so difficult but turned out to be a BIG MESS. A Constituional Amendment would be a start but wouldn’t fix this now. And this needs fixing NOW.
Can you explain “He has vulnerability’s on the place of birth and parentage issues.”? I know it’s been discussed on FR whether or not Stanley Dunham and/or BHO,Sr. are his real parents. Is that what you mean?
I’m with you, butterdezillion.
How does this fit vs the rumor out of the courtroom that the judge called the attorneys into his chambers and told them, since neither the defendant nor his attorney showed for the hearing, he would issue a default, but they wanted to proceed with the hearing and present evidence ?
Our Constitution forbids the establishment of religion, while respecting the rights of all persons to worship God or nature as they like. The English common law is in direct polar opposition to our Constitution, in that infidels were considered enemies of the state. In Calvin’s Case, which is universally recognized as having established the English common law with regard to the jus soli rule, the decision makes it perfectly clear that the English common law presumed infidels would never be converted to Christianity, and it specifically states that they are subjects of devils.Hence, one could be born on English soil, in the King’s castle even, to parents who loved the King, but if the parents weren’t Christian, they could not be natural-born subjects. Instead, they were considered enemies of the King, because they refused to believe that the King was God’s monarch on Earth. This is not “natural law” to anyone who wasn’t Christian.
The English common law’s uniquely Christian definition of natural law governs the English common law concept of natural subjection/natural allegiance. And that is why the English common law definition of “natural-born subject” can never be judicially recognized as synonymous with “natural-born citizen”. Such a construction of Article 2, Section 1, would be directly repugnant to the 1st Amendment.
Relavent details, here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/79112841/AMICUS-BRIEF-by-Leo-Donofrio-in-Georgia-Presidential-Eligibility-Case
b.t.w. the Law of Nature, natural law, is non denominational. It's one of the reasons why the framers went with it instead of the Christian only English version.
Yes, you are correct I misunderstood. My apologies as ive seen your posts before and they are always cogent. I was not thinking clearly and just wanted to post out of frustration, I am in some form of shock. With evidence of criminal behavior being entered into a court of LAW I mistakenly thought that THEY would not be able to sweep it away with so little effort
Sounds like one day we’ll have “little Pedro” who was born here to 2 illegals run for president. Is that what the founders wanted? (Why did I even ask that?)
I believe then that you are a competent lawyer, and since your name for posts implies that you are retired, you should have a stable retirement despite an economy that is really crimping my lifestyle. perhaps you could become an activist for what you know in your heart and mind to be true. I spoke to Orly when all this was just starting, just to let her know she had support out there and she pleaded with me to get involved.
However, im just a guy, barely getting by. I have nothing to offer, I cant initiate anything. I am just a natural born citizen old enuf that they taught nbc to me in third grade, but whose talents in this arena mean nothing. All I can do is support and inform my fellow americans.
I often wonder why Orly is so alone in her activities as well as the so few law suits.
How, in this huge nation we have so few with means and ability fighting for our country?
its bigger than just eligibility, we are following this pied piper as a nation into unheard of debt. We are selling ourselves out because we are so meek? because we dont care about the lives of our children? I cannot figure out why there are not 10,000 law suits! instead our entire nation with literally millions of lawyers and we muster less than 100 brought by a handfull. In the face of tyranny. Give me liberty or not, dont care either way is the order of the day. Where is our outrage
We agree that the HI DOH birth records “released” for Barry are bogus. Barry has been fighting tooth and nail to prevent a trial on the merits which would enter his HI DOH LFBC image into a court record as a “finding of fact.”
Something on that HI LFBC is extremely damaging to Barry’s eligibility...such as EVERYTHING?
Re: “EVERYTHING”: What do our resident legal eagles know - or consider - about what the ramifications to Barry would be if it were proven that he was born north of Seattle, specifically, in Canada?
There is so much evidence from so many avenues that points to Canadian birth.
What would his US citizenship status be if he was born in Canada to a British subject father and US citizen mother?
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