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Obama blunder escalates Catholic holy war
BizPacReview.com ^ | February 15, 2012 | Michael Dorstewitz

Posted on 02/15/2012 10:06:30 AM PST by cap10mike

President Obama firmly placed one foot into a political quagmire by supporting Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius’ decision to renege on the “conscience exception” to Obamacare. This allowed religious organizations to opt out of providing health care coverage for contraception and sterilization. Sebelius’ decision placed Catholic employers squarely on the horns of a dilemma. They could either violate their religious beliefs or pay a huge fine to HHS. When the president offered a compromise in response to mounting public outcry, instead of backing away from the controversy, he planted his other foot into the muck.

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: catholics; freedom; mandate; obamacare
This story just keeps getting better and better. And the more Obama digs his heels in, the more foolish he looks.
1 posted on 02/15/2012 10:06:34 AM PST by cap10mike
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To: cap10mike

Well, it’s not like he said there were 57 states or nuth’n.


2 posted on 02/15/2012 10:08:42 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

LOL! I wonder if he thinks it’s okay if contraceptives can be handed out by Navy Corpse Men?


3 posted on 02/15/2012 10:12:37 AM PST by cap10mike (Free market)
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To: cap10mike

I guess Pelosi was correct about obamacare, ‘You have to pass it to see whats in it’. Wonder what other gems are in it.


4 posted on 02/15/2012 10:14:51 AM PST by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: cap10mike

It’s not a mistake, it’s a dry run. Like flying Imams.


5 posted on 02/15/2012 10:17:18 AM PST by steve8714 (Yoda's speech to Luke; copied from Jack Webb in "The D.I.")
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To: cap10mike

I disagree that this is a blunder.

You would not believe the ferocious support on leftist websites comments sections (including the Washington Post) for the democrat party war on Christians, and Catholics in particular.

The legions of evil are pumped up.


6 posted on 02/15/2012 10:17:56 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: steve8714

“It’s not a mistake, it’s a dry run. Like flying Imams”

Bingo!

100% dead on correct.


7 posted on 02/15/2012 10:19:32 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: cap10mike

Wake the hell up!!! This was no blunder. This is an essential tactic in the Obama re-election campaign—aimed primarily at Santorum. Call it the Richie Cunningham startegy. It is part of a two-pronged early strategy against the opposition. The first tactic was “Occupy Wall Street”—The Richie Rich (or Romney)strategy. They think we are stupid, and thus far I fear they are correct. Get Angry. Call them liars. Expose the strategy. Ironic that they do not really have one to effectivley counter Gingrich, but are relying on the Republican Party internally to take Newt down.


8 posted on 02/15/2012 10:21:37 AM PST by LALALAW (one of the asses whose sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: duckman

LOL! The hits just keep on coming!


9 posted on 02/15/2012 10:22:52 AM PST by cap10mike (Free market)
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To: duckman

Wonder what other gems are in it.
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Pretty much anything the Secreatary say’s is in it.

The way it is written she has pretty much dictatorial powers.


10 posted on 02/15/2012 10:24:30 AM PST by Venturer
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To: FormerACLUmember

Well guess what? We’re pumped up too. A demonstration has been organized in the heart of West Palm Beach, and everyone I know os on a writing jag - to their CongressCritters. Incidentally, I’m a former ACLU member too - we were encourages to join in law school. Nowadays, I make it a point to send them a religious Christmas card every year.


11 posted on 02/15/2012 10:27:34 AM PST by cap10mike (Free market)
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To: steve8714

You may be right. Nothing surprises me anymore.


12 posted on 02/15/2012 10:29:04 AM PST by cap10mike (Free market)
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To: cap10mike

I disagree strongly. I think he(as in his handlers) know exactly how to play to their base, and to the “moderates”*. I think Dick Morris is right in that they understand that abortion is becoming a loosing argument for them, so by turning it to “paleopolitical conservatives want to deny women access to contraception and keep them barefoot and pregnant”, they can whip the ignorant and their base (but I’m being redundant, aren’t I) into a voting frenzy, and sweep the big 0 into a second term on a frothy frenzy of adoration.

*Moderate in this context means people who aren’t informed and are not interested enough to become so, and can’t make up their minds if there were to do so.


13 posted on 02/15/2012 10:33:13 AM PST by SuzyQue
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To: LALALAW

I can’t argue with your logic, LaLaLaw. But we are pushing the hell back and we ain’t giving up! I know atheists who are pissed about this - they’re on OUR side. They at least know if the O-Man tramples on a right they care little for, he’s eventually gonna hit something they DO.


14 posted on 02/15/2012 10:34:06 AM PST by cap10mike (Free market)
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To: cap10mike

You should send tham a doodie, gift wrapped.


15 posted on 02/15/2012 10:37:47 AM PST by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: SuzyQue

We just have to keep hammering back that the objection is the Church PAYING for the contraceptives. Btw, I LOL with your comment, “ignorant and their base (but I’m being redundant, aren’t I).”


16 posted on 02/15/2012 10:39:41 AM PST by cap10mike (Free market)
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To: Mi-kha-el

Ha ha ha ha har!!


17 posted on 02/15/2012 10:42:33 AM PST by cap10mike (Free market)
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To: steve8714

What do Catholics and Evangelicals expect from a muslim in the WH?

That he promotes Judeo-Christian values?

How naive.


18 posted on 02/15/2012 10:55:13 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: Mi-kha-el

HAHAHAHAHA! Great idea!


19 posted on 02/15/2012 10:59:01 AM PST by Doors
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To: cap10mike
They could either violate their religious beliefs or pay a huge fine to HHS.

Rather reminiscent of paying jizya to the muzzies in order to be allowed to live.

20 posted on 02/15/2012 11:03:40 AM PST by Fast Moving Angel (Newt's not a perfect candidate but Jesus isn't running this year. - shoff)
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To: Fast Moving Angel

Excellent observation.


21 posted on 02/15/2012 11:17:17 AM PST by cap10mike (Free market)
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To: cap10mike
Obama has made a mistake on this one. In 2008, he picked up the Catholic vote with the help of a couple of ploys orchestrated by Catholic Democrats, that will not likely be repeated. First the USCCB issued a “Faithful Citizenship” statement that was so mushy on “conscience” that it was interpreted by many as encouragement to go ahead and support Obama, despite his anti-life position. Secondly, a ploy that has been used in every presidential election for decades to blunt the Catholic moral perspective was repeated. On a wide scale, priests received letters threatening their parishes would surely lose their tax exempt status if anyone even mentioned abortion, or said ANYTHING about the election, on church property. One such letter purported to come from Bishops, and to have an authoritative legal analysis of the issue of political activity in churches. It concluded by absolutely forbidding any priest or other individual from mentioning ANY political issue inside a church or on any church-owned property. It was, of course, hogwash, and not even signed. Uncovering this letter resulted in some punitive action, but unfortunately, not in time to reverse the damage in 2008’s election.

Not only is that not likely to be repeated, but the long brain-dead Catholic Democrat is finally awaking to the loss freedom posed by an unfettered liberal machine. How many are awake now is the question. It couldn't hurt that there is a good likelihood of a conservative Catholic getting the Republican nomination. Archbishop Dolan and other vocal Bishops are also critical to reversing the damage.

It remains to be seen who will win this one, but my money's on the church. However, a lot of damage has been done by silence. Not only were contraceptive mandates and gay marriage in several states quietly or openly accepted by local Catholic Bishops, but there is the 60-year old ploy obliging churches to election neutrality for keeping their tax exempt status. It's never actually been enforced, and it's probably unconstitutional, but when you accept something for decades, it's pretty hard to reverse it.

22 posted on 02/15/2012 12:04:59 PM PST by Missouri gal
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23 posted on 02/15/2012 12:18:20 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Mi-kha-el

As Nancy would say, “you have to pass it to see what’s in it...”


24 posted on 02/15/2012 12:41:18 PM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: bt_dooftlook

As Nancy would say, “you have to pass it to see what’s in it...”

That was the most astounding thing I ever heard. Only an elitist libtard would expect a bill to be passed before reading it.


25 posted on 02/16/2012 4:46:51 PM PST by Doors
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To: Missouri gal

It’s started an uproar here in West Palm Beach. Last night at a Republican Club meeting, the County GOP Chairman, a Jew, got up and spoke about this. His parting words were, “Today, we are all Catholics!”
On Wednesday, (Ash Wednesday) a huge demonstration is scheduled. Our Congressman (Allen West) is onboard and has co-sponsored legislation deferring the mandate.
We’re locked and loaded! (and pissed)


26 posted on 02/16/2012 6:15:46 PM PST by cap10mike (Free market)
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To: cap10mike
Hey, that's great to hear, cap10mike!
27 posted on 02/17/2012 7:21:52 AM PST by Missouri gal
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To: Missouri gal

We have two new American Catholic Cardinals........a great billy-pulpit to take down theO....play by their rules for a change. Get front and center and use your new celebrity. Wake up. They could start by excommunicating Nancy Pelosi...I would add Joe Biden, but dang if he didn’t try to lobby against this health care mandate.


28 posted on 02/17/2012 7:32:05 AM PST by tioga
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To: tioga
Yes, you're right tioga. Was pondering that Our Lord's statement, “the gates of hell shall not prevail,” implies what the marching orders are: You have to storm the gates!
29 posted on 02/17/2012 8:50:57 AM PST by Missouri gal
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