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Have Ron Pauliens become PSYOP Victims?
Barrack Now ^ | 2/18/12 | Ben Barrack

Posted on 02/18/2012 9:36:34 AM PST by Ben Barrack

Ron Paul supporters are a very passionate bunch. They're all in for their guy. A large majority of them are 9/11 Truthers who believe the United States government is responsible for 9/11. When you point out to them that there are a lot of Muslims and communists who share that view, they dismiss it. When anti-Semitic musings were revealed to have been published in his newsletters, his supporters dismissed it. When Eric Dondero, formerly a very close aid to Ron Paul, wrote that the Republican presidential candidate is "most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general," his supporters dismissed it. When it was discovered that Ron Paul quoted Robert Pape on his website as someone whose foreign policy views he respects, his supporters dismissed the fact that Pape has close ties to the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR). When Ron Paul says it's our fault that the Muslim world hates us, his supporters nod...

(Excerpt) Read more at barracknow.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: islam; israel; psyop; rino; ronpaul
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In case you scratch your head when it comes to Ron Paul and Islam.
1 posted on 02/18/2012 9:36:38 AM PST by Ben Barrack
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To: Ben Barrack

Victims? Maybe willing participants or useful idiots.


2 posted on 02/18/2012 9:41:41 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Ben Barrack

What a piece of tripe.


3 posted on 02/18/2012 9:43:46 AM PST by anchorclankor (From the main part of Missouri)
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To: anchorclankor

I’d say that the ones I’ve seen are nuts. Posted a link to an article on twitter to one tea party group leader i follow about Paul saying Iran oughta be allowed to close the Straights of Hormuz. He posted back that Paul didn’t say that even though it is in the article that he did say it.. so you tell me?


4 posted on 02/18/2012 10:00:26 AM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Ben Barrack

I see you are using the same lame leftist debate tactics of if you are not for something.... then you are a racist. What absolute rubbish!

Do you realize our Republic is broke? What part of we are broke do you not get? Our credit cards have been maxed out. Here is a web site for you if you do not believe me.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Do you realize that we will not have a future if we keep this up??? Saddam Hussein and OBL are both dead. Why do you insist we continue with endless wars and being the Police Man in the world when we are broke? Do you really believe that being the Police Man of the World is what the Founding Fathers of our Republic envisioned?

Your ideas of let’s keep waging preemptive wars around the world is insane and will break us financially.


5 posted on 02/18/2012 10:07:59 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Ben Barrack

Several times here, in response to rock solid facts and examples of Paul being a nutcase and dangerous, I’ve seen Paul cultists simply deny that the facts are true. How any rational sober person could still support, and even send money to, that crackpot after the extensive list evidence solidly showing what he is is unbelievable.


6 posted on 02/18/2012 10:10:07 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: anchorclankor
Actually, it is absolutely true, but Paul-bots care nothing about the truth.

Just because Ron Paul says one or two things that Paul supports like -— Paul-bots seem willing to IGNORE anything else the guy says or does.

7 posted on 02/18/2012 10:16:39 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Ben Barrack

http://www.dailypaul.com/214683/the-final-word-on-ron-paul-and-the-truther-movement

Q. Many of your supporters call themselves “9/11 Truthers.” They believe that the U.S. government was in some way complicit with the 9/11 attacks or covered it up. Are you tonight prepared to either embrace that rhetoric or ask those supporters to abandon it, or divorce themselves from your candidacy?

Paul: Well, I can’t tell people what to do, but I’ve abandoned those viewpoints, I don’t believe that, and that’s all, that’s the only thing that is important, and so I don’t endorse anything they say


8 posted on 02/18/2012 10:21:07 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Sprite518
Basic Paul-bot philosophy:

Say,

“The Country is broke”

Then, you can say or think or support ANYTHING you want, and Paul-bots don't care!

So, you get a nut case candidate, Ron Paul, who thinks that 9-11 was an “inside job” and that AIDS was a US Military germ-warfare experiment gone bad -— and Paul-bots don't care!

9 posted on 02/18/2012 10:21:30 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Beowulf9
By EVER accepting the 9-11 “truther” nonsense, Ron Paul has shown that he is unfit to be POTUS.

That he says he has now “abandoned” those views only shows that he is an indecisive lunatic, but still a lunatic.

10 posted on 02/18/2012 10:25:05 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Ben Barrack

Paultards also believe that the US is responsible for WW2 and the Pearl Harbor attack. I just want to punch them all in the face. And I don’t believe the numbers the Ron Paul campaign puts out about military donors. Idiots.


11 posted on 02/18/2012 10:39:57 AM PST by Force of Truth (Intelligence and virtue are preferable in a candidate, but I'd much rather he or she be chinchy.)
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To: Force of Truth

Also Ron Paul is endorsed by Stormfront and still minorities like him. Ron Paul has also endorsed the John Birch society. The man is a kook. He should be in a straight jacket. Just shows that he fits right in with the other lunatics and idiots that run the Republican party in the house. Ron Paul puts earmarks for his cronies in the budgets then votes against them to make it look like he doesn’t support the budget. His idiot follower sheep still defend this as if it’s a good thing the President doesn’t get to veto the earmarks. I think we should reinstate the draft and send all the Ron Paultards first.


12 posted on 02/18/2012 10:45:54 AM PST by Force of Truth (Intelligence and virtue are preferable in a candidate, but I'd much rather he or she be chinchy.)
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To: Kansas58

Okay so you are saying we are not broke???

You do realize both major political party admits this. I’m pretty sure too most political parties agree on this very point.

However, if you concede this point, then you know your position of let’s keep spending money like there is no tomorrow is insane unless your intentions are to bankrupt our Republic.


13 posted on 02/18/2012 10:55:29 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Beowulf9

“Paul: Well, I can’t tell people what to do, but I’ve abandoned those viewpoints, I don’t believe that, and that’s all, that’s the only thing that is important, and so I don’t endorse anything they say”

That just shows AGAIN that he is also a liar. When he faces a sane audience he attempts that kind of response but when he gets in his own element, raving nutcase conspiracy types, he panders to them with truther nut crappola.


14 posted on 02/18/2012 10:57:22 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Ben Barrack

You’re the author. Any reason you don’t want to post the entire thing?


15 posted on 02/18/2012 10:58:54 AM PST by Larry Lucido (My doctor told me to curtail my Walpoling activities.)
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To: Kansas58
Think it's funny when you can't argue the facts... that you go to smear tactics. You are using leftist political tactics.

So since the majority of the active duty military supports Ron Paul, then I guess you feel they are all racist and “Truthers”.

16 posted on 02/18/2012 10:59:44 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Force of Truth

Of course you don’t believe the number of military donors because it smacks all your smear tactics right back in your face. LOL!


17 posted on 02/18/2012 11:01:56 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Proud2BeRight

What politician do you know that does not lie?


18 posted on 02/18/2012 11:03:33 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

Good, to see that your answer shows that you admit he is a liar rather than try to deny he is a 9/11 truther nutcase.

Fact is he is supported by some of the most dangerous and crazy groups in the nation; Stormfront, KKK, Code Pinko, Occupy parasites, dope dopes, and the hardcore conspiracy foilhats.

Fact is he praises traitors, supports terrorists getting nukes and wants to gut the US defense to dangerous levels. What kind of a lunatic would want to close ALL US foreign military bases?

Fact is he wants to open the floodgates of dope that would kill millions of additional more Americans, destroying families, neighborhoods and lives.

Fact is he published decades of vile and nutty newsletters and then lied about them.

You are locking onto a streetcorner crazy who the vast majority of people cross the street to avoid.


19 posted on 02/18/2012 11:15:51 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Ben Barrack

Oh how I hope that crackpot runs 3rd party. He will draw a lot of the types that support Obama like his code pinkos, occupy parasites, dope dopes, anti-military, and the unknowing who chase mindless fads.


20 posted on 02/18/2012 11:21:36 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Sprite518

Nonsense!
The “majority” of active duty military does NOT, in ANY WAY, support the nut case Ron Paul!


21 posted on 02/18/2012 11:31:32 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Larry Lucido
here is one of the responses to his article..

gijeff said...
Because someone who is an idiot claims to support someone, you would infer that anyone else supporting the same person is a dupe? Conjecture and innuendo, thinly connected facts and cherry picked quotes out of context, really? Why not just come out and say what you really think? You wouldn't be in danger of losing any credibility if this is the best you have.

Any candidate has quotes that, taken out of context, could be damaging, look at Barrack Obama’s quote that if the economy is not fixed in three years, he'll be a one term president. I haven't heard anything about him turning down the Democratic Party's nomination, and though they claim the economy is better, I can't see any sign of it other than in the news.

What it boils down to is that most everyone these days decides what facts they will accept and what ones they will not, irrespective of their validity, based on whether it agrees with their own ideology. You're not going to convince them, and they are not going to convince you.

This article is pure propaganda though, plain and simple. Try to back up your assertions with SOME facts and maybe someone will take you seriously.

February 18, 2012 12:49 PM

22 posted on 02/18/2012 11:49:38 AM PST by freedommom
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To: Larry Lucido
here is one of the responses to his article..

gijeff said...
Because someone who is an idiot claims to support someone, you would infer that anyone else supporting the same person is a dupe? Conjecture and innuendo, thinly connected facts and cherry picked quotes out of context, really? Why not just come out and say what you really think? You wouldn't be in danger of losing any credibility if this is the best you have.

Any candidate has quotes that, taken out of context, could be damaging, look at Barrack Obama’s quote that if the economy is not fixed in three years, he'll be a one term president. I haven't heard anything about him turning down the Democratic Party's nomination, and though they claim the economy is better, I can't see any sign of it other than in the news.

What it boils down to is that most everyone these days decides what facts they will accept and what ones they will not, irrespective of their validity, based on whether it agrees with their own ideology. You're not going to convince them, and they are not going to convince you.

This article is pure propaganda though, plain and simple. Try to back up your assertions with SOME facts and maybe someone will take you seriously.

February 18, 2012 12:49 PM

23 posted on 02/18/2012 11:51:24 AM PST by freedommom
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Tired of the disruptions?


24 posted on 02/18/2012 12:09:07 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Proud2BeRight

Fact is you would not be getting all worked up if you really thought Ron Paul was a joke.

Fact is that Ron Paul believes in the Founding Fathers vision of the America. I did not know that all of a sudden the KKK, Code Pink, OWS, Dopes and the tin foil hats love the United States Constitution, and share the same views as the Founders of our Republic???? Although something tells me that B.S., and you are just trying to smear him since you can’t argue the facts.

Fact is Ron Paul served in the U.S. military in Vietnam.

Fact is Ron Paul is a medical doctor and still went over to Vietnam even though he had a wife and children.

Fact is Ron Paul is a U.S. congressman that has been consistent with most of his political positions unlike the rest of the candidates. A lot more than the other candidates that did not have the guts to serve when it was their time.

Fact Ron Paul has never supported a Terrorist or Terrorist group. Just because Ron Paul takes the Founding Fathers position of not wanting to be policeman of the world does not mean he sides with the enemy. By your very definition you would think the Founding Fathers support Terrorist.

Fact is we have over 900 military bases world wide and operate out of 2900. This does not even include 11 Carrier Battle Groups too. Which consist of over a half million troops between the Navy and the Marines alone. Furthermore, we have the most advanced military in the world. Thanks to great advancements in technology and military equipment we do not have to maintain the same size military. We can save a lot of money just be phasing out old technology (military bases) and bringing in new (global fighters, bombers and drones).

What you are arguing for is the equivalent of wanting to stay in the horse buggy industry after the car industry has been invented and thriving. Remember it was technology that defeated the Soviet Union after Reagan went forward with SDI and rolled out the Stealth Bomber. The Soviet Union realized their army was obsolete and we all know what happened. Fighting the last was has never been a successful strategy.

We are broke right now. Greece is collapsing and Italy, Spain and France are next. If we go to war with Iran then it will be the beginning of World War III. Russia and China said they will back up Iran if we attack. Do you understand now???

Oh and regarding the war on drugs. I guess you though Prohibition was a good thing?

The drug war is the same as Prohibition. It’s a not winnable war. Then on top of that you get things such as the Fast and the Furious. Oh yeah I forgot that falls under the tin foil hat conspiracy theories right??? Trust everything because politicians never lie. (sarcasm off)


25 posted on 02/18/2012 12:15:41 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Kansas58

Oh why because you say so???

Hey it’s a fact... deal with it.


26 posted on 02/18/2012 12:20:03 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Kansas58

If what you are saying true, then how come no other presidential candidate has challenged Ron Paul on this???


27 posted on 02/18/2012 12:21:39 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Ben Barrack

If Ron Paul would drop out of the race where would those that support him go?


28 posted on 02/18/2012 12:35:29 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Sprite518

The reason Sormfront, KKK, code pinko, conspiracy theory foilhats, occupy parasites and the like support that crackpot? They share extremist and crackpot ideology with him. Just keep telling yourself about the myth that he believes in the Constitution so that you can ignore the racist, extremist and loony groups you are are rubbing elbows with.

I don’t care if he claims that he likes puppies, apple pie and baseball. His long documented history of behavior, comments, and associations make him a nut, dangerous, racist, a liar, and completely unfit to occupy the office his cult wants him to win.

And anyone, like that crackpot Paul who advocates legalizing drugs, is a serious hazard to society. Dope is a national cancer that needs to be eliminated, not marketed.


29 posted on 02/18/2012 12:59:45 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Ben Barrack
(Excerpt) Read more at barracknow.blogspot.com ...

Why have you excerpted your own blog?

30 posted on 02/18/2012 1:05:14 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: Proud2BeRight

Okay so I guess if you believe in the U.S. Constitution and the Founding Fathers ideas then that is crazy or nuts as you said?

Oh and you must also think this about our military thinks this way since the majority of them support him with their dollars?

My bet is that you do not think that way.

I’m just trying to point out how invalid your cherry pick argument is about Ron Paul. It’s something I usually hear from hard core leftist that can’t argue facts. So they go to name calling like racist. I see you have learned well from the leftist.

Okay so you like it when the government tells people what to do? So what else do you want to ban? Do you want to bring back Prohibition? Do you want to outlaw cigarettes? Perhaps you side with the food Nazis of schools telling kids what to eat? Do you want to ban guns now too?

We are not a free country if the government is outlawing and lecturing us on everything from cradle to grave. Then again you may like being told what to do or think.


31 posted on 02/18/2012 1:17:32 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Proud2BeRight

The people that dislike or call Ron Paul crazy don’t understand the evils of the Federal reserve. Ron Paul has been consistent in his message and is probably the only candidate that can save this country from spending itself into oblivion.


32 posted on 02/18/2012 1:31:49 PM PST by freedommom
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To: freedommom
The people that dislike or call Ron Paul crazy don’t understand the evils of the Federal reserve

That part isn't crazy. The part where he lets Iran nuke our cities is crazy. (unless you think they need nukin')

33 posted on 02/18/2012 1:35:52 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
No I don't.
But I don't trust anything obama says about anything.

Libya and Egypt are part of the muslim brotherhood.
Iran is next.

obama wants to get rid of our nukes but set up all those countries to be muslim brotherhood.

I'm not saying that Ron Paul is correct on everything but this country is broke and there has been an effort to bring us down for a long time.
We have 0ver 250,000 troops worldwide and over 240,000 defense contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan.
There is a big difference between defense spending and military spending.

34 posted on 02/18/2012 2:19:28 PM PST by freedommom
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To: Sprite518

You do provide proof that to continue to support and defend that crackpot it does take the ability to ignore the facts written about him, accept the totally unacceptable, and parrot the same old tired talking points.

The military supporting him is a myth. It has been exposed here numerous times.

Bottom line is he again failing miserably. Mainstream America knows a dangerous crackpot when they see one. He has attracted a few new groups as his ideology has been better exposed. You will now be able to sit next to the KKK, Stormfront, Occupy, Code Pinko, traitors he has praised, radical Islam that he ignores, dope-using losers, and a variety of foilhats. You will not have mainstream conservative Americans. Just keep up the old tired Paul mantra and beating that rejected libertarian drum.


35 posted on 02/18/2012 3:02:09 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Sprite518

Ron Paul is a nut, it rarely pays off to argue with a nut.

I did notice a man in UNIFORM at a Ron Paul election night rally, once

That is, of course ILLEGAL! Completely against the UCMJ.

I guessed at the time that the guy was probably just an actor, pretending to be in the military.


36 posted on 02/18/2012 3:07:21 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: freedommom
People don't really care what a streetcorner crazy is spewing. They simply cross the street to avoid him. Ideas cannot be delivered and be expected to considered as serious when delivered by a crackpot who babbles long lists of bizarre, offensive, dangerous, and tinfoil hat crappola.
37 posted on 02/18/2012 3:11:46 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Sprite518; All

It would stand to reason that Paul would do well in such a state, given the coverage, his own service and his military donations. But he didn’t.

According to exit polls conducted by Fox News and CNN, Paul got very little actual support from South Carolina’s military population.

Fox News exit polling showed that 21 percent of those who voted in South Carolina served in the military.

Of those who identified themselves as veterans or active duty military, Ron Paul received only 12 percent of the vote. Newt Gingrich, the clear winner of the primary, received 39 percent of the military vote, followed by Romney at 32 percent. Even Rick Santorum received more votes from the military than Paul.

Is it possible that Paul’s military support is more myth than reality?

Redstate diarist Kudzu notes that one “can put down anything in the ‘occupation’ box” when making a donation to a political candidate.

A post at Liberty Reborn calls it “the Big Lie.”

“Military personnel email me every day telling me that on base there is at best one Ron Paul supporter and how frustrated they are that the Paulbots are telling this Big Lie,” writes J. J. Jackson.

He adds:

According to the numbers available on January 6th, 2012[1], Ron Paul has received $24,503, $23,335 and $17,432 from people who declared themselves as working for the U.S. Army, the U.S. Air Force and the U.S. Navy respectively. The total is $65,270. They are the top three donors listed.

He continues:

So, $65,270 made in one dollar increments would mean 65,270 members of the military donated to Ron Paul. In September 2011[2] there were 1,468,364 total active duty military personnel in the United States. Divide the inflated number of Paul donors by the total active members of the military and you get 4.4%. Hardly an outpouring of support if you ask me.

Jackson explains further:

When you look at other candidates, it is true that you do not see anywhere near these numbers for these military professions if you even see them at all. There are however reasons for this. First, active duty personnel stationed overseas will often have their spouses make donation for their household to candidates. These donations are then listed under the spouse’s information which is often times not military related. Secondly is that members of the military, from my personal experience, hate to be used as political pawns and when they donate to political candidates they often do not list their military service as their profession. Thirdly, military personnel, as I have been told by military personnel themselves, generally really hate to be used for political purposes thus they again do not like to list their service on donations made to military candidates so that their donations cannot be used in this manner. And fourthly is that there is a concerted effort by Ron Paul supporters in the military to make sure that their donations are listed as coming from military personnel in order to perpetuate this talking point for political gain. But let’s ignore all that. Let’s ignore it because Ron Paul’s supporters use simply the dollar numbers as the end all and be all of the proof to support their supposed claims.

The proof, as the saying goes, is in the pudding.

Despite what Paul and his supporters claim, the ultimate show of support - the actual vote - simply wasn’t there for the Texas Congressman.

More on Ron Paul at Examiner.com can be found here

Continue reading on Examiner.com Ron Paul’s military support AWOL in South Carolina, exit polls say - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/ron-paul-s-military-support-awol-south-carolina-exit-polls-say#ixzz1mmFo4Js4


38 posted on 02/18/2012 3:15:41 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Irish Eyes
“If Ron Paul would drop out of the race where would those that support him go?”

Ron Paul's support WILL go to Obama!

39 posted on 02/18/2012 3:21:36 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Irish Eyes
“If Ron Paul would drop out of the race where would those that support him go?”

Ron Paul's support WILL go to Obama!

40 posted on 02/18/2012 3:21:36 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: freedommom
No I don't... But I don't trust anything obama says about anything.

I wasn't talking about what the marxist said, I was talking about what Ron Paul said.

41 posted on 02/18/2012 3:53:20 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Sprite518
We are broke right now

As the surrender monkey puts in for millions of dollars of more wasteful spending in his earmarks.
A real fiscal conservative isn't he.
42 posted on 02/18/2012 4:07:50 PM PST by John D
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To: Proud2BeRight

Like I thought you all you can do is call names.

You can’t handle the facts, and all you do is smear. That’s okay though because it validates that I’m correct.


43 posted on 02/18/2012 4:09:44 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518
So since the majority of the active duty military supports Ron Paul, then I guess you feel they are all racist and “Truthers”.

Total BS. Show proof.
Sure there are some cowards who are in the military. There have been some cowards in the military from the beginning of our military but in no time the majority. Our military consists of the bravest people in the world, and in no way would support an anti-American like Cut and Run.
44 posted on 02/18/2012 4:15:53 PM PST by John D
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To: freedommom
Ron Paul has been consistent in his message and is probably the only candidate that can save this country from spending itself into oblivion.

What do you think Cut and Run is going to do? He has been in Washington for over a quarter century, and has of yet done nothing, absolutely nothing.
Paulbots consistently say the surrender monkey will do this or that, but I have been asking them for years what he has ever done and as of yet I have never heard of one accomplishment he has ever made.
Can you? I didn't think so.
45 posted on 02/18/2012 4:23:10 PM PST by John D
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To: Kansas58

You did not provide any proof. Only tin foil conspricy theories. Now you could have gone to FEC (Federal Election Commision), but then it would validated my point. Here is a couple articles for you

According to the Federlal Election Commission Ron Paul get the most.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/02/06/ron-paul-awash-in-active-duty-military-donations

Here is the Army Times article about it.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/02/military-ron-paul-gets-most-military-donations-020912w/

USA Today

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/07/ron-paul-military-campaign-donations-/1#.T0A9YvF5mSM

Here is an article from Yahoo business news

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ron-paul-military-donations-nearly-203600923.html

Okay now who has the tin foil hat on?


46 posted on 02/18/2012 4:27:38 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: John D

Read all the links in post #46 and take off your tin foil hat.

Ron Paul served in the Military in Vietnam. This is even though he was married wi th children

Now did your candidate serve? The answer is no.

Just think you are calling a Vietnam veteran a coward and you are supporting a draft dodger.

Maybe you have not heard but both Saddam Hussein and OBL are dead. Did you ow that? Then what the hell are we fighting? Do you really believe we are at war with a military tactic even though we have open boarders with Mexico. Think about what happens at the airports now? Do you support the shaking down of grandma, Nuns and Children?


47 posted on 02/18/2012 4:48:12 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

What I provided are facts. There is an extensive collection of actual videos and quotes that prove ever “name” I use. Calling a crackpot a crackpot is simply an accurate description. Paul cult members just don’t want to accept facts. Paul cult members can only repeat tired mantras and deny the facts are true. But facts are stubborn things.

Answer this: there has been, is now, and always will be a dominant world military power. If that crackpot Paul gutted the US military and closed ALL (Yes that lunatic actually said “ALL”) foreign US bases that dominant power would no no longer be the US. What nation or group would you like to have become that dominant world military power?


48 posted on 02/18/2012 4:49:31 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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Naturally I want our country to be the strongest.

Preemptive wars leads to greater endless conflicts. The found fathers understood this and why they were against being the policeman of the world.

Ron Paul understand this too.

Think it’s ironic how the biggest war mongers are those who too chicken $hit to serve when it was their time. Most people who have served and/or been to war do everything they can to avoid it.


49 posted on 02/18/2012 5:33:00 PM PST by Sprite518
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Ron Paul would close ALL US foreign bases. You don’t think that is nuts and dangerous?


50 posted on 02/18/2012 6:00:55 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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