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Santorum Urges Michigan Voters To 'Shock the Country' [“We’ve Run A Moderate, We’ve Lost"]
The Hill ^ | February 25, 2012 | Jonathan Easley

Posted on 02/25/2012 12:56:44 PM PST by Steelfish

Santorum Urges Michigan Voters To 'Shock the Country' By Jonathan Easley - 02/25/12

Rick Santorum unloaded on Mitt Romney at the Americans for Prosperity Forum in Michigan on Saturday, in an aggressive speech that earned him a standing ovation as he urged the crowd to “shock the country” by voting for the “complete conservative.”

Santorum had vaulted into the lead in national polls and in Michigan, following his surprising three-state caucus sweeps in Colorado, Minnesota and Missouri, but has faded after getting hammered at a debate in Arizona on Wednesday over his record as a senator.

Romney has since overtaken Santorum in most Michigan polls, although the race remains tight. “You have an opportunity here in Michigan to make this election about big things,” Santorum said. “You have an opportunity here in Michigan to shock the country.”

In urging voters to upending conventional wisdom, Santorum raised the stakes for Romney in a state where a Romney once served as governor. Santorum made clear that if Romney were to lose in Michigan, where Romney lived until he was 18, it would kill his “electability” argument and signal to the base that it’s safe vote for a conservative alternative.

“Every time we’ve run a moderate, we’ve lost. Every time we’ve run a conservative, a complete conservative … we’ve won,” Santorum said. “We won the 2010 elections because our people were excited about our candidates … not because we compromised.”

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Politics
KEYWORDS: gingrich; kenyanbornmuzzie; michigan; michiganprimary; michiganspeech; mittromney; newt; newtgingrich; prosperityforum; ricksantorum; romney; santorum

1 posted on 02/25/2012 12:56:46 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

“You have an opportunity here in Michigan to make this election about big things,” Santorum said.


About contraceptives or satan? Little Rickie?
Houston, we have a problem. We need Newt.


2 posted on 02/25/2012 12:59:56 PM PST by lilyfreeper
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To: lilyfreeper

Washington and Lincoln believed that Satan was real as well.


3 posted on 02/25/2012 1:02:37 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: lilyfreeper

Hey Dingbat. Newt is admittedly not competing in Michigan. He’s polling in single digits.

And who’s talking about contraceptives?... That would be the liberal media.


4 posted on 02/25/2012 1:06:12 PM PST by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else (Maybe Tim Thomas))
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To: lilyfreeper

Keep hustling those Romney talking points.


5 posted on 02/25/2012 1:07:30 PM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: lilyfreeper

1. Santorum never brought contraceptives into this. The media did and you believed what they said.

2. Newt’s not competing in Michigan. It’s Santorum or Romney here.


6 posted on 02/25/2012 1:10:15 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Stop Romney - Rick Santorum in the Michigan primary)
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To: Steelfish
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Mitt's a lumberhack and there's no way.
7 posted on 02/25/2012 1:15:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: lilyfreeper

Stop Shilling for Mitt. Newt has no chance in Michigan.


8 posted on 02/25/2012 1:18:54 PM PST by makomako
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To: cripplecreek

Why would Mitt want to cut down Michigan’s perfectly tall trees?


9 posted on 02/25/2012 1:20:57 PM PST by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: 21twelve; Absolutely Nobama; AFPhys; afraidfortherepublic; AmericanInTokyo; ...
Santorum for President Ping List.

FReepmail “Antoninus” to be added or removed.

10 posted on 02/25/2012 1:26:31 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Darren McCarty
The Supreme Court ruled 7-2 in 1965 in Griswold v. Connecticutthat a state cannot ban contraceptives. When the Republican candidates were asked about contraception by ABC's George S., none of them knew that a state cannot ban birth-control devices. Romney seem confused and just said that "no one wants to" ban contraception.
11 posted on 02/25/2012 1:29:26 PM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, less baggage, articulate, passionate)
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To: lilyfreeper
If you are not supporting Santorum to win in MI you are supporting Mittens by default. Newt isn't running there leaving Santorum, Milt and his little toady RuPaul.

"Igor. I want you to spend more of your money running negative ads against Newt and Rick in states you are not running in."

12 posted on 02/25/2012 1:33:51 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Olog-hai; nhwingut; rwilson99; Darren McCarty; Steelfish

“Washington and Lincoln believed that Satan was real as well.”

Yes, they did. And so do I.

But don’t go calling people derogatory names like “Dingbat”, just because you do not like her opinion. Try convincing her, with logic, why she’s not seeing the whole picture.

Let’s try keeping this clean and remember, the goal is to vote Obama out of office, not tick-off other Republicans.


13 posted on 02/25/2012 1:41:08 PM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Naionals as our President!)
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To: lilyfreeper

“Houston, we have a problem. We need Newt.”

Running Santorum down is not going to get you Newt. It will get you Romney. I would have supported Gingrich if he had emerged as the not-Romney. He has not done so. I am perfectly OK with Santorum and I am committed to stopping Romney. I think Santorum is more electable than Gingrich as well and harder to attack for a whole host of reasons.

But, unlike you, I am not going to stoop to attacking Gingrich. Romney is the foe.


14 posted on 02/25/2012 1:41:48 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
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To: Steelfish

When it comes to spending, one of my principal concerns, it’s arguable Santorum is the LEAST conservative of the 4 candidates.


15 posted on 02/25/2012 1:44:02 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
Mitt raised fees as Massachusetts Governor. He also gave us Romneycare.

Romney's a whole other level of bad.

16 posted on 02/25/2012 1:47:40 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Stop Romney - Rick Santorum in the Michigan primary)
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To: Mariner

When it comes to the size, scope and power of the federal government, it’s arguable Santorum is the LEAST conservative of the four candidates.


17 posted on 02/25/2012 1:49:01 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SatinDoll

To be fair, you might also note that the “Little Rickie” meme is not a logical, persuasive form of argumentation. In fact, I think the use the word dingbat is exactly the right counterpoint to exemplify the sophomoric nature of the original point.


18 posted on 02/25/2012 1:51:40 PM PST by mongrel
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To: Darren McCarty
There's NO DOUBT Romney is bad on fiscal issues and we don't know how he would have voted on many pieces of legislation in the congress.

We do know how Santorum voted.

So I must correct my contention, we know Santorum is, at best, 3rd most conservative on fiscal issues and size, scope and power of the federal government.

He's about even with Newt on on Foreign Policy/defense...but FAR less knowledgeable and articulate.

When it comes to Social Issues I would say it's the ONLY place he can claim to be "the most conservative" and the rest of his contention is hollow BS.

19 posted on 02/25/2012 1:56:33 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: mongrel

Namecalling can get one thrown off of Free Republic. Remember that.

And I do not approve of calling anyone “little .....”.

Furthermore, she has the right to cheer on her candidate. So it ticks you off? Grow up.

Steelfish and Laz come on Newt threads and spread crap all the time.

It must stop. Our goal is to pry Obama out of our White House; or do you disagree with that point, mongrel?


20 posted on 02/25/2012 1:57:37 PM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Naionals as our President!)
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To: Darren McCarty

“Romney’s a whole other level of bad.”

I agree.


21 posted on 02/25/2012 1:59:05 PM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Naionals as our President!)
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Thanks Steelfish.
22 posted on 02/25/2012 1:59:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Steelfish. All, the digest of Santorum titles through the beginning the 22nd was large, so you’ll have to take a look. :’)


23 posted on 02/25/2012 1:59:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: SatinDoll
Let’s try keeping this clean and remember, the goal is to vote Obama out of office, not tick-off other Republicans.

Truer words have NEVER been spoken!

Unfortunately SD, we republican'ts are to busy shooting each other in the back! FR has really gone down hill lately in spite of the hard work of the owners.

24 posted on 02/25/2012 2:09:48 PM PST by Randy Larsen (No Romney vote from my family!)
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To: Mariner

Quit shilling for Willard the Liberal.


25 posted on 02/25/2012 2:09:53 PM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: SatinDoll

Amen. There have been Santorum people on threads here crying all day. Calling anyone that says anything negative about him religious bigots and haters, and accusing them of lying. These are the same people that were on here right around the South Carolina and Florida primaries spreading outright lies about Gingrich’s record, and his personal life.

I have issues with Rick’s record and the policies he proposes, and his positions regarding individualism. I also don’t think he has the fire to take it to the left, or can beat Obama. I have never denigrated him personally. I haven’t been personally attacked, but I’ve seen people being attacked. It’s hypocritical, and disgusting.

Flame away.


26 posted on 02/25/2012 2:14:32 PM PST by freemarketsfreeminds
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To: Steelfish

As long as Santorum is the only one with the microphone and no one is asking him questions, he does ok. Somehow I get the impression he has one-liners written on his palms.


27 posted on 02/25/2012 2:18:36 PM PST by Toespi
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To: mongrel

Then how bout, “Tricky Ricky?”


28 posted on 02/25/2012 2:20:58 PM PST by Toespi
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To: CainConservative
I'm not shilling for Romney, but you ARE shilling for Santorum the liberal. Liberal in nearly every category.

Like you, I suppose.

29 posted on 02/25/2012 2:41:54 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SatinDoll

Let’s try keeping this clean and remember, the goal is to vote Obama out of office
WADR, I thought the goal was to get a conservative into office, not another liberal; I’m not a party-over-ideology type. Getting the incumbent out is only half the battle, of course; even having the incumbent as a “disabled Anas platyrhynchos” may not be enough, but we do not want to vote in someone too much like the incumbent no matter the party label on the candidate.
30 posted on 02/25/2012 2:45:02 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

So you’re not a party-over-ideology type? Well, neither am I. But I recognize that this is no normal national election cycle.

Obama is evil, a Marxist-Leninist who supports infanticide and Global Social Justice (international communism) in the guise of Global Government centered in the UN. He is a Muslim or Christian whenever politically expedient.

It is vitally important that BHO2 be defeated for re-election come this November. I will vote for whoever Republicans nominate as our candidate.


31 posted on 02/25/2012 2:59:49 PM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Naionals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll

I didn’t call anyone names, just noting you might have been more even handed in your critique. Now you have. Thank you.

I have no problem with anyone cheering their candidates and gave no indication I was “ticked off” either. And after all of this moralizing about name-calling you’re telling me to “grow up”? My apologies for responding to you in the first place.

Our goal right now is to have a conservative Republican candidate for president. Newt and Rick are the closest we have and both have their flaws and I would support either one.


32 posted on 02/25/2012 3:02:11 PM PST by mongrel
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To: mongrel

Thank YOU for your kindly post.

I feel the same way about this election - it is very important to have a conservative Republican as President.


33 posted on 02/25/2012 3:08:43 PM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Naionals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll

Dingbat’s not so bad. I’ve been called worse. I agree with your sentiment and hope you will adhere to it yourself in the future.


34 posted on 02/25/2012 3:12:29 PM PST by altura
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To: SatinDoll
Let’s try keeping this clean and remember, the goal is to vote Obama out of office, not tick-off other Republicans.

Curious whether you give the same advice to the Gingrich supporters who call Santorum supporters names?

35 posted on 02/25/2012 3:18:40 PM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: SatinDoll

Correct. Never call anyone names even if we disagree. Thank you.


36 posted on 02/25/2012 3:20:41 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: jellybean; mongrel

I don’t like Santorum because he’s basically just a GWB compassionate conservative (meaning big-spending, weak and no hard answers to hard questions). I think he is unappealing personally because of his hectoring “Saint Rick” manner. Like it or not, he’s got a lot of issues that are going to chip into this image if the press decides to go for it.

Also, just as an aside, does anybody really want their sons to look like his? I only say this because he keeps parading them. They are an unfortunate group of slope-shouldered kids wearing sweater vests. I can’t believe he made them go out wearing those outfits.


37 posted on 02/25/2012 3:34:23 PM PST by livius
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To: jellybean

Yes. In the past two weeks I’ve had an epiphany of sorts.

We’re beating up on one another when we should be going after BHO2.

This last debate is what I use as an example. The lame stream media do not want their Obama attacked, rather the moderator tried to manipulate the four Republican debaters into attacking one another. Only one of the four refused to comply.

I suspect that the candidates addressing issues, even if the moderator didn’t intend for them to do so, would have made for a better debate with differences between candidates being highlighted.


38 posted on 02/25/2012 3:51:37 PM PST by SatinDoll (No Foreign Naionals as our President!)
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To: Mariner

Santorum has a career scorecard from the National Taxpayers Union of 76% and Gingrich has one at 61%. Neither one is perfect, but Santorum hardly deserves the liberal label in fiscal categories.


39 posted on 02/25/2012 4:00:47 PM PST by mongrel
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To: livius
Like it or not, he’s got a lot of issues that are going to chip into this image if the press decides to go for it.

Can you tell me which of the candidates the press isn't going to go after once they're the nominee against Obama? Even if it's Romeny they're going to come out with all guns blazing. Like McCain, he'll be shell shocked because he didn't see it coming.

Do you think Gingrich will get a pass? What they did to him in the 90's to protect Clinton will be nothing compared to what they'll do to him to protect Obama.

How about Ron Paul? The media/democrats may be anti-military, anti-America and anti-semitic, but by the time they're done with Paul they'll look like the most patriotic, pro-military, pro-Israel people on the planet. They'll paint Paul as even loonier than he is.

40 posted on 02/25/2012 4:10:50 PM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: SatinDoll
Yes. In the past two weeks I’ve had an epiphany of sorts.

We’re beating up on one another when we should be going after BHO2

I wish more of the Gingrich supporters could understand that. Beating up Santorum doesn't help Newt - it turns people off.

Newt is my second choice, but his supporters are leaving a bad taste in my mouth. I have to keep reminding myself it's not Newt calling Santorum "St. Rick" or denigrating socons - it's his supporters. They're alienating those they should be trying to persuade.

41 posted on 02/25/2012 4:23:36 PM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I agree. Many people say SANTORUM needs to win Michigan. I say CONSERVATIVES need Santorum to win Michigan. It is the one loss that will knock Romney on his butt.

Speech here:

http://www.c-span.org/Campaign2012/Mitt-Romney-Rick-Santorum-Address-Michigan-Prosperity-Forum/10737428542/


42 posted on 02/25/2012 4:55:36 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: lilyfreeper
2012-01-01

.... need I say more... be gone troll
43 posted on 02/25/2012 7:34:39 PM PST by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: Olog-hai

And, so does God. He created the fallen angel. Jesus taught much about Lucifer.


44 posted on 02/25/2012 7:40:05 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: All

RCP has Rick Santorum ahead by 4.2 points in the GOP National Poll:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

Looking real good for Rick!


45 posted on 02/25/2012 9:49:32 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: lilyfreeper
"Houston, we have a problem. We need Newt to drop out."

There, fixed that for you... :-)

46 posted on 02/26/2012 5:41:32 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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