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Rick Santorum is toast.
February 29, 2012 | techno

Posted on 02/29/2012 8:21:46 PM PST by techno

10 reasons he is toast:

1)He now is showing a major gender gap in his female voting whereas 2-3 weeks ago in polls it was negligible. Santorum lost Catholic women in Michigan to Romney by about 15-20 points.

2)Newt Gingrich will rise again to cancel Santorum out making each other non-viable. Major conservative vote splitting will occur again allowing Romney to come up the middle.

3)My prediction (other than Washington)is that Santorum doesn't win another contest in this primary season.

4)Romney has all the momentum and too much of an advantage in money and organization and will have the nomination clinched by early April.

5)The JFK comment was on politics and religion was a huge UNFORCED ERROR and alienated a lot of Catholic voters that he probably lost forever

6)Romney is seen as way more electable than Santorum although some polls do not bear that out.

7)Many Republicans and some conservatives will never forgive him for the robocalls to Democrats in Michigan

8)Santorum is an embarrassment to the GOP establishment (calling Obama a snob). They will never allow him to win the nomination. He is now as despised by the GOP hierarchy as Sarah Palin is.

9)SNL will now lampoon him to kingdom come. Once you become an entertainment laughingstock it's game over.

10)And Rick Santorum is toast because he acts unpresidential on too many occasions. Voters are now seeing it. He doesn't think before he speaks. He doesn't believe that discretion is the better part of valor. He wades into areas where angels fear to tread.

Simply Rick Santorum is toast because he cannot avoid getting himself into hot water.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: gingrich; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; newt; newtgingrich; ricksantorum; romney; santorum; vanitypimp
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To: techno

Like I said, I am stupid as to how the masses will vote on this stuff.

I will say this.
I think Rick diverted the public attention from the main electoral concerns in this election to his moral issues, and I think it his screwed up this election in a big way.
Obama’s supporters aren’t going to vote for him.
He has painted himself into a political corner IMHO.
He can’t win a general election IMHO.


51 posted on 02/29/2012 9:35:45 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: SaraJohnson

We shall see.

I honestly don’t know who made Santorum the Conservative Pope.

Bachmann wore the church on her arm, Perry too.
Newt has testified.
Romneys some sort of Mormon Bishop.

Is this what the election is about?


52 posted on 02/29/2012 9:39:41 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: techno

See this http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2852897/posts


53 posted on 02/29/2012 9:40:11 PM PST by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: SaraJohnson; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; ...
RE :”Right! But arguing from a point of view of freedom is the only way we will defeat these socialist, dictating fools. We need to learn to do that and educate the public. Rick can’t do it. Newt can do it.

You are assuming that voters will be receptive to talk of freedom.

Give me Liberty, or Give me Death!” (Patrick Henry March 23, 1775)

Give me Birth Control, or Give me Death!” (Sandra Fluke Georgetown law student to congress 2/27/2012)

54 posted on 02/29/2012 9:40:18 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: montag813

That lead will be gone just like that.

It’s like a football team losing its first string QB for the season.

Major implosion.


55 posted on 02/29/2012 9:44:19 PM PST by techno
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To: techno
What are your sources?

And it's irelevant about just Catholic women. It Doesn't make Santorum toast. He's had the women swooning since his family interview on CNN's Piers Morgan. Newt's been toast since the public learned of his affairs and lies. Women won't tolerate it.
56 posted on 02/29/2012 9:49:21 PM PST by God'sgrrl (twitter.com/Women4Santorum)
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To: sickoflibs

Fortunately, that law school shill is not representative of “voters.”

She has the freedom to have as much sex as pleases her but she also has the responsibility to pay for it and be free to get an employer and plan that pays for it if that is what she wants. We don’t need the government mandating this one size fits all insurance coverage or care.

People will get that. Also, how is this supposed to solve the problem of people losing health insurance when between jobs as was supposed to be whole purpose of Obama’s take over of our health care system?


57 posted on 02/29/2012 9:55:17 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: God'sgrrl

That ‘swooning’ you talk about is women fainting from disbelief that Santorum is such a Neanderthal.


58 posted on 02/29/2012 9:57:19 PM PST by techno
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To: RitaOK

Man’s been written off before - hasn’t worked out that way, has it?


59 posted on 02/29/2012 10:01:27 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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To: techno

Santorums’ the neanderthal? He’s stayed with his wife.

I’m not sure how getting married and staying married makes one a neanderthal.


60 posted on 02/29/2012 10:03:14 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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To: sickoflibs

That’s the problem - people are always for free stuff, when it benefits them.

It’s wrong to force me to be paying for your contracpetion, and right now, Rick’s the only one opposed to it.

I thought Newt was supposed to be strong on pocketbook issues - apparently not.


61 posted on 02/29/2012 10:05:54 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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To: LeopoldvonRanke

Even Sarah Palin claimed Rick’s wife should chew him out for being a Neanderthal on women’s issues.


62 posted on 02/29/2012 10:06:05 PM PST by techno
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To: varmintman

“The choice needs to be between Gingrich and Romney.”

Yes. Newt was temporarily confounded by Romney’s deceit, but now that he knows what he’s dealing with, he’d clobber Mittens in debate. And he’s certainly the only match for BHO. The whole world would be watching THOSE debates, and millions of voters would have their eyes opened fast to what a liar and an incompetent BHO is.


63 posted on 02/29/2012 10:07:01 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: techno

So getting married and staying married makes one a neanderthal? Yes or no?


64 posted on 02/29/2012 10:07:19 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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To: LeopoldvonRanke

Is it the basis for a President?

Rick could be the most pious guy on the planet, but I think he is missing this entire Chief executive thing.


65 posted on 02/29/2012 10:12:40 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GracieOMalley

Evangelicals will warm to Newt once he opens his mouth.

He is fabulous on the stump, he’s just been denied any and all financial backing to get to the stump. :)

I understand Tennessee is odd and has been stereotyped that they don’t read possibly, but if accomplishment actually means a damn thing to them, they will wake up once they get to hear Newt.

Thank you for the tri-state illustration. Newt relates to all three in real time. But for his book sales and appearances many Tennesseans likely make more than Newt.

His millions he is accused of earning went for his think tanks, while he took home $30,000. Never mind the Tiffany’s
crap. Anybody can get a credit ine there. What he actually spent has been unknown from the get-go, but for the smoke blown about it—guilt by implication. You know what I mean?


66 posted on 02/29/2012 10:16:22 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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To: mylife

“Is it the basis for a President?”

I’m not married myself. I would like to be. I look up to the people who have gotten married and stayed married in my own life.

It gives me hope for the future that someday I can be as happy too.

Perhaps this is not so for you, but for me, yes, getting married and staying married is a big part of the appeal of a candidate.

Rick has that - Newt does not.

“Rick could be the most pious guy on the planet, but I think he is missing this entire Chief executive thing.”

Someone who is good at governing small things can be trusted with the larger duties.


67 posted on 02/29/2012 10:17:29 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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To: techno

The bottom line is that contraception is not a federal ussue and that Santorum just cant stop gnawing on this stuff will ignoring federal issues.

He just cant stay focused.

Hes against banker bail outs but hes for union bail outs. Fooey.


68 posted on 02/29/2012 10:17:55 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

It is a federal issue now - are you unaware of the fact that Obama wants to force everyone to pay for contraception?


69 posted on 02/29/2012 10:20:09 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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To: Ingtar
Some will say anything to try to get contenders out of the mix early.
Santorum is not dead yet, so he should not be buried yet.
We are nearly a year way from the election so aid and comport is the last thing we should give to enemy's of the process this early.
70 posted on 02/29/2012 10:20:14 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: LeopoldvonRanke

It’s a distraction and has nothing to do with being the Chief executive.
It has nothing to do with the Federal Gov.


71 posted on 02/29/2012 10:20:21 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: LeopoldvonRanke

When you do get Married or divorced you will wish the Gov had no hand in it.


72 posted on 02/29/2012 10:21:21 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: LeopoldvonRanke

My dad stayed married to my mom. We would not want him to be the president, bless his heart. :)


73 posted on 02/29/2012 10:22:06 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: techno
ah yes- a man telling a woman what she thinks and feels. You have it all wrong.

Rick Santorum is exactly the man of most American women's dreams. Consistent, faithful, prolife, values-oriented, and hard working. He cares about the country, and the economy. Most of all, he OBVIOUSLY loves his wife and daughters.
74 posted on 02/29/2012 10:22:14 PM PST by God'sgrrl (twitter.com/Women4Santorum)
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To: Ingtar
Some will say anything to try to get contenders out of the mix early.
Santorum is not dead yet, so he should not be buried yet.
We are nearly a year way from the election so aid and comport is the last thing we should give to enemy's of the process this early.
We have already lost at least two and maybe three decent contenders from our mix.
75 posted on 02/29/2012 10:22:19 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: LeopoldvonRanke

I’m aware.


76 posted on 02/29/2012 10:23:19 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Unfortunately, it is a very real issue today and a concern for everyone, due to the Obamacare mandate.

So yes, it does have something to do with the chief executive. We need a chief executive who is willing to stand up for the rights of everyone, and that includes religious people who do not want to pay for contraception.


77 posted on 02/29/2012 10:23:29 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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To: SaraJohnson

He’s not a candidate. We’re comparing the four candidates at hand.


78 posted on 02/29/2012 10:25:17 PM PST by God'sgrrl (twitter.com/Women4Santorum)
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To: mylife

Last I checked the government under Obama is calling me a neanderthal for opposing gay marriage.

Do you support gay marriage?


79 posted on 02/29/2012 10:25:27 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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To: LeopoldvonRanke

We all pay for contraception now.

He dont like the church paying for it and I agree.
But I still think he is chasing a red herring that Obama tossed his way.


80 posted on 02/29/2012 10:26:46 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: LeopoldvonRanke

What are ya stupid?


81 posted on 02/29/2012 10:27:26 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: LeopoldvonRanke

What are ya stupid?

I dont believe the Gov has any role in Church doctrine.


82 posted on 02/29/2012 10:28:12 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

So how is Rick Santorum advocating government intervention in marriage?


83 posted on 02/29/2012 10:30:59 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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Good night gang.
I am sick of this BS.

Santorum is a sanctimonious putz IMHO and he has distracted us from the issues in this election.

He could make his federal point without acting like a self appointed moral cop.


84 posted on 02/29/2012 10:31:58 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

‘We all pay for contraception now.’

Oh, really. I see.

I thought this was a free country where people were free not to buy things that they didn’t want or need. Apparently I was mistaken.

“He dont like the church paying for it and I agree.”

People talk about the separation of the church from the state but not about the separation of the state from the church - the state has no right to impose itself on the conscience of Americans, as Obama is doing now.

Rick’s the only one seemingly interested in confronting Obama on this issue. Why is this? Is he the only one who cares?

But I still think he is chasing a red herring that Obama tossed his way.


85 posted on 02/29/2012 10:34:31 PM PST by LeopoldvonRanke
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To: mylife
I dont believe the Gov has any role in Church doctrine.

I don't think the Mosque should decide our marriage laws, or what constitutes legal marriage in America.

86 posted on 02/29/2012 10:37:21 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: techno

1. He counteracted that by describing his working mom, wife, and daughter so glowingly in his post election speech last night. He is not anti woman and people will see that.

2. Newt might win Georgia but he will not be rising too far again. He is too known.

3. Santo is leading in a few states.

4. This what every MSM talking head has been saying for many months. But even the serpent today said mitt is severely wounded ( paraphrasing but he did).

5. A lot of his supporters cringed when he said that vomit stuff, but we agree with him and forgive him the poor choice of words. He WILL take more drubbing over it though, but he himself if matter of fact about his getting excited and using poor choice of vocab. He did not rip JFK, because JFK was desperately overcompensating for any catholic influence.

6. By whom? Apparently not by most of the voters in these competitions so far.

7. His cheap Robocalls to Dems was to collect the Reagan Dems in prep for the big game.

8. So? Every conservative embarrasses the establishment Republicans. Rush Limbaugh, everyone.

9. SNL will lampoon everyone. Especially republicans. If lampooning lost you votes, why is mitt still getting them?? They do a funny bit on mitt and how no one wants him, every week.

10. Rick Santorum acts Unpresidential? I ASK YOU: would Rick Santorum make his own pepsi-style logo? A possumus pre-inaugural podium? Huge fake columns at his speeches? Teleprompters in school classrooms? Feet up on jfk’s desk in the oval office? Vacations every few weeks? Parties and other wasteful use of taxpayer dollars while Thr American people struggle? During the campaign, do you think all of rick’s gay lovers would be mysteriously gangland shot?? AND YOU SAY SANTORUM ISN’T PRESIDENTIAL.


87 posted on 02/29/2012 10:37:40 PM PST by Yaelle (Santorum 2012)
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To: Yaelle
Excellent post. I don't have a lot to add, except:

Santorum is the most electable conservative candidate left!

Don't forget it!

If 0bamney manages to win the primary, we will lose the general to 0. He will be portrayed as an out of touch, country club one percenter who "isn't concerned with poor people". Plus he has the likability factor of a lizard...or your average used car salesman (which he reminds me of by the way).

Santorum will do fine if he manages to focus more on the big picture, the economy, and contrasting his strong points with 0bama's weak points.

I'm looking forward to Super Tuesday, I think we'll see 0bamney struggle mightily, and Santorum will win the biggest prize - Ohio.

88 posted on 02/29/2012 11:01:18 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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To: techno
By the way, don't miss the Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum Tie In Michigan, Based On Delegates Awarded thread!

Heh!

89 posted on 02/29/2012 11:11:52 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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To: LeopoldvonRanke

According to today’s lefties, yes. Another reason to vote for Santorum IMHO.


90 posted on 02/29/2012 11:11:56 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: God'sgrrl
"Rick Santorum is exactly the man of most American women's dreams. Consistent, faithful, prolife, values-oriented, and hard working. He cares about the country, and the economy. Most of all, he OBVIOUSLY loves his wife and daughters. "

Thank you for stating what should be obvious, but apparently isn't clear to a lot of folks around here.

I think Santorum comes across as far more genuine than Plastic Mitt, and Newt will never get any traction in the "family values" arena.

91 posted on 02/29/2012 11:17:09 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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To: PreciousLiberty; God'sgrrl

Except the fact is that women don’t like Santorum, and it is unlikely to improve, instead it is getting worse.

When his voters kicked him out of office, Santorum lost his Senate seat with only 39% of the female voters wanting to keep him as their Senator.

It was the females that beat him in Michigan last night.


92 posted on 02/29/2012 11:26:43 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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To: ansel12

Democrat union members who have no intention of voting for Santorum in the fall almost pulled it out for him!


93 posted on 02/29/2012 11:34:10 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: ansel12

“It was the females that beat him in Michigan last night.”

I think what’ll drive that will be how liberal the women are in a given locale. Those that view “right to abort” as a major issue will no doubt vote against Santorum on the average. Among those who favor “right to life” he will be a big winner. Santorum has the major evangelical endorsement, that should help overall. It’ll be interesting to see how he does with Latinos given his Catholic faith.

We’ll see over the coming months, that’s for sure.


94 posted on 02/29/2012 11:36:51 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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To: ansel12; techno

The party is divided, even on FR.


95 posted on 02/29/2012 11:37:45 PM PST by God'sgrrl (twitter.com/Women4Santorum)
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To: techno

The Left has a playbook that Santorum should know very well. He should have a playbook of his own to use when he gets attacked.

I heard Rick talk about the contraception issue when he visited our town. He made no bones about the fact that it was not about contraception. It was about the Democrats imposing their will on our Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms. Rick should have stayed on that message loud and clear. Instead, he got into trouble when he tried to defend the Catholic Church’s reason for its stand on contraception. That is a debate that Rick did not have the resources to succeed with. The last debate would have been an opportunity to carry his case. However, the moderators purposely kept that topic off the conversation. That is because they wanted to dismantle his case when Rick had no ability to defend himself.

Rick should have let the Catholic Church defend itself. The Church has the ability to defend itself from the pulpit which is an asset that Rick could never have. It is an asset that the Left will never have either. Because of that, the pulpit of the Churches is something the Left wants to destroy (the Left will try to use the gay marriage issue to destroy the Christian church). And if those who have the promise of opposing the Left’s intentions let themselves be defeated with stupid mistakes, our freedoms are at stake.


96 posted on 02/29/2012 11:39:33 PM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Gingrich as Catholic would do better with Hispanics, and Santorum will never do well among women, that is evidenced by the 39% who voted for him when they kicked him out of the Senate.

Santorum only got 42% of his white Catholic voters in that election.

In a head to head matchup with Obama, Obama will wipe him out, it would be the opposite with a head to head between Dr. Gingrich and Obama.

Gingrich knows how to deconstruct a President Obama, and that would win the voters.


97 posted on 02/29/2012 11:49:15 PM PST by ansel12 (Newt Gingrich knows how to deconstruct Obama in a head to head race, and that is what it will take.)
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To: ansel12

“In a head to head matchup with Obama, Obama will wipe him out, it would be the opposite with a head to head between Dr. Gingrich and Obama.

Gingrich knows how to deconstruct a President Obama, and that would win the voters.”

You and I view this from opposite viewpoints.

Gingrich has a big problem with the ladies, due to his serial infidelities. He is also an old, fat white guy who’s already got very high negatives. Once 0 and his buddies had their way with him, he’d be lucky to get 40% of the popular vote in the general. There’s enough real dirt on him (not to mention his egotistical and somewhat erratic personality) that he’d get creamed were he the nominee.

Fortunately for all concerned, he won’t be.

He should drop out to let support coalesce around Santorum.


98 posted on 02/29/2012 11:57:16 PM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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To: techno
Rick Santorum is toast.

I'd say he's more of a pantywaist milquetoast.

99 posted on 02/29/2012 11:57:59 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Gingrich is divorced but you keep skipping past his re dedication to faith and conversion to Catholicism.

Gingrich didn’t have problems getting elected in his elections, women flat will not go for Santorum, Newt in a head to head with Obama can win a larger share of the female vote, and really do well with women, Hispanics and men, when the stage is clear, them intellect and vision and penetrating insight, can beat Obama.

Santorum is just not a heavy weight, he never has been, Obama would simply chew him up, it would be President lawyer against stuffy, non-special lawyer who lost his Senate seat by 18 points.

Gingrich is built and made for the bigger game, he is a historical figure, Santorum is already in over his head, he has never been a leader.


100 posted on 03/01/2012 12:16:08 AM PST by ansel12 (Newt Gingrich knows how to deconstruct Obama in a head to head race, and that is what it will take.)
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