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To: Charles Henrickson
Sorry but your theology is flawed:

There is only one instance of Christ suffering [the last 2 days)

But there are at least 3 instances in the New Testament where Christ purposely avoids suffering.

Sorry but suffering comes at a time that it comes.

Christ avoided suffering on purpose several times:

1) When they had gone, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream. "Get up," he said, "take the child and his mother and escape to Egypt. Stay there until I tell you, for Herod is going to search for the child to kill him."

2) Luke 4:29-30 (New International Version) 29 They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the brow of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him off the cliff. 30 But he walked right through the crowd and went on his way.

John 11:53-54 (King James Version)

Thus Christ appears to want us to avoid suffering and run from it as he did 3 times.

He also appears to wants us to stand and fight aginst oppression and defend ourselves. [This is correct Christian theology, self-defense.]

53Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death. 54Jesus therefore walked no more openly among the Jews; but went thence unto a country near to the wilderness, into a city called Ephraim, and there continued with his disciples.

4) Then Jesus asked them, "When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?" "Nothing," they answered. He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: `And he was numbered with the transgressors' ; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment." The disciples said, "See, Lord, here are two swords." "That is enough," he replied.

If someone does something 3 times, I`ll take the 3 over the one any day. Thrice done is a stronger statement than once done. It`s better odds, too.

4 posted on 03/04/2012 12:27:16 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (Jesus ran from suffering 3 times???. Who knew?)
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To: bunkerhill7
"O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken! Was it not necessary that the Christ should suffer these things and enter into his glory?"

"Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead, and that repentance and forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem."

--Luke 24:25-26, 46-47

The suffering of Christ is absolutely central and essential to the saving mission Christ came to undertake. There is no salvation apart from it. It's at the heart of the gospel. So, no, my theology is not flawed.

The rest of what you posted, you're just talking past me and missing the point. I don't know, really, what point you're trying to make.

10 posted on 03/04/2012 2:25:43 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor, LCMS)
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To: bunkerhill7

Just pick up and read the book “Life of Christ” by Fulton J. Sheen and the chapter on the Last Words on The Cross, and that is all you need to know.


12 posted on 03/04/2012 2:45:32 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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