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Whom Do You Believe? HBO or Gallup?
Big Hollywood ^ | 02-04-12 | Jeffrey Scott Shapiro

Posted on 03/05/2012 9:07:00 AM PST by Lazlo in PA

Despite the premise of "Game Change" - that Sarah Palin cost John McCain the 2008 presidential election - Gallup polls prove HBO's assertion categorically false. Palin wasn’t the reason the Republicans lost the election. She’s the only reason they had a fighting chance up until the time McCain suspended his presidential campaign in late September.

Gallup polls from the last presidential race prove that once Palin joined the ticket on Aug. 29, 2008, McCain’s ratings steadily climbed to a point where the Republican ticket even outshined Democratic Sen. Barack Obama.

In the two weeks before Palin joined the McCain ticket, the Arizona senator drifted in the low 40 percentile range, mostly around 41, 42 and 43 percent, while Obama held as much as an 8 point lead at about 49 and 50 percent. Four days after Palin joined the ticket, however, McCain’s numbers climbed to 45 percent and Obama’s sank to 47 percent, narrowing the gap significantly from eight points to two.

Between Sept. 4-6, McCain and Palin actually overshot the Obama ticket by 3 percent with the Republicans in the lead at 48 percent and the Democrats at only 45. McCain consistently held that lead until Sept. 15, and then the candidates balanced out with Obama enjoying a mere three-point lead, and no lead at all from Sept. 22-24, when the numbers were tied at 46 percent.

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KEYWORDS: gallop; gallup; gamechange; hbo; palin; polls
Thanks to all the revisionist history being spewed by the MSM, the truth about Palin in the '08 election is being lost. She is the only reason many of us ended up voting for the Progressive father of McCain Fiengold. The GOP had a serious shot at winning that election if it were not for the weak McLame and his incompetent bumbling during the economic crisis.
1 posted on 03/05/2012 9:07:05 AM PST by Lazlo in PA
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To: Lazlo in PA

Sarah Palin is the only reason I voted in the 08 presidential race.


2 posted on 03/05/2012 9:09:05 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Lazlo in PA

All polls given to us gratis are intended to further the agenda of the people paying for it.

Stop paying attention to these manipulative propaganda pieces.


3 posted on 03/05/2012 9:09:05 AM PST by DManA
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To: cripplecreek

Me, too.


4 posted on 03/05/2012 9:12:01 AM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Our local GOP HQ (Westmoreland County) had a surplus of lawn signs and a shortage of volunteers until Sarah Palin joined the ticket. Once she did, they had plenty of volunteers and a shortage of lawn signs. I gave one guy mine because his home was in a higher traffic location.

McCain didn't even bother to show up and he carried our county with 58%. Indeed, the same county which even Fritz Mondale still managed to win in Reagan's 1984 landslide election.

5 posted on 03/05/2012 9:12:56 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Laz, thiss iss der tricker questioner, right?


6 posted on 03/05/2012 9:14:52 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Despite the premise of “Game Change” - that Sarah Palin cost John McCain the 2008 presidential election

John McCain is the reason Sarah Palin lost the VP bid....
The only reason my wife and I voted for McCain was because of Palin. If she had not been on the ticket we would have exercised our franchise to sit out.


7 posted on 03/05/2012 9:15:04 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New the media American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Lazlo in PA
"Game Change" is a 100% Tom Hanks production.

I always knew he was a slimeball, but now I know just how slimey.

8 posted on 03/05/2012 9:17:24 AM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: cripplecreek

My parents were not going to vote, until Sarah was added. I have no difficulty believing that she gave McCain a fighting chance.

I think McCain at that point either panicked and nervously flubbed the campaign, or he panicked and deliberately threw the campaign.

I tend to believe he took a fall. Sarah almost was able to hold him off the mat.


9 posted on 03/05/2012 9:18:52 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Shapiro needs a grammar refresher on the difference between WHO versus WHOM.

;-/


10 posted on 03/05/2012 9:18:55 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SECURE AMERICA

I agree, McCain was an uninspiring candidate much like Romney.

Generates all the excitement of a mid-September baseball game between two teams 20 games out of first place.


11 posted on 03/05/2012 9:18:58 AM PST by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: Vigilanteman
McCain didn't even bother to show up

He told us we were SOL in Michigan. Sarah Palin wanted to do more campaigning here.
12 posted on 03/05/2012 9:19:09 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Lazlo in PA
I voted McCain only because of Serah Palin joining..I trust her and never did trust McCain..I was very disturbed when the McCain trolls trashed Sarah they were scum to do such a thing..HBO is a bunch of losers,I canceled HBO many years ago and it seems lots of others did the same..
13 posted on 03/05/2012 9:19:17 AM PST by PLD
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To: Vigilanteman

Soon after Palin was picked as VP, McLame had a rally at Lehigh University that I attended. The crowd was 3 times what organizers thought it would be. The line to get in wrapped around the arena almost twice. A ton of attractive well dressed chicks all there to see Palin. McLame spoke for a few minutes to general applause, but when Palin started her speech, the place exploded. Obviously everyone was there to see her, much like I was.

Palin single handedly drug that loser McLame toward the finish line. If it wasn’t for her, he would have lost by 15-20%.


14 posted on 03/05/2012 9:20:54 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: PLD

What I don’t understand is why she ENTHUSIASTICALLY endorsed McLame in 2010.


15 posted on 03/05/2012 9:22:40 AM PST by CainConservative (Santorum/Huck 2012 w/ Newt, Cain, Palin, Bach, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Petraeus in the Cabinet)
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To: Lazlo in PA
McCain cost McCain the election.

I wonder if McCain still thinks America has nothing to fear from an 0bama Presidency.

The gasp the audience let out after he said that was the death gasp of his Presidential aspirations.

16 posted on 03/05/2012 9:23:16 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: cripplecreek
Sarah Palin is the only reason I voted in the 08 presidential race.

Me too.

17 posted on 03/05/2012 9:23:32 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Lazlo in PA

McCain would have fared far worse without her on the ticket.

I also don’t think this movie will be one that people care to watch.

Mainly because who wants to be reminded of what a loser Juan is?


18 posted on 03/05/2012 9:27:29 AM PST by dforest
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To: SumProVita
Shapiro needs a grammar refresher on the difference between WHO versus WHOM.

Maybe. But the title is grammatically correct.

19 posted on 03/05/2012 9:28:14 AM PST by Blennos
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To: Lazlo in PA

In answer to the headline, NEITHER.

I believe that Palin’s addition to the ticket was a net plus for McLame.

I have some moderate friends here in CA that were all set to vote for McCain (they didn’t like Obama), but they reconsidered when Palin was added to the ticket. Apparently, they bought the media narrative about her.

I suppose there were probably others like that, too.

But I am certain that there were far more people like me that recoiled at the thought of having to vote for McLame until he picked Palin. That is when I became genuinely excited.


20 posted on 03/05/2012 9:31:21 AM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: dforest
I also don’t think this movie will be one that people care to watch.

What movie is that?

21 posted on 03/05/2012 9:31:28 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: cripplecreek

In 2008, I voted for Sarah Palin. John Mccain just happened to be on the ballot as well!


22 posted on 03/05/2012 9:33:36 AM PST by catman67
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To: Lazlo in PA

In an ideal world, if Sarah Palin was to announce in the next five minutes she was throwing her hat in, within TEN minutes she would be leading the polls and there would be no looking back.

PALIN/WEST. UNBEATABLE.


23 posted on 03/05/2012 9:33:48 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: CainConservative
I don't know why but remember Sarah has a beautiful heart and she wants to trust others..Now she isn't as naive she knows how these pathetic politicians work.
24 posted on 03/05/2012 9:34:15 AM PST by PLD
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To: Lazlo in PA
Weak bumbling??

That was a dole dive.
Mitty is another rigged fight.


The facts are the R party has been compromised by the commie manifesto agenda.

Long time Clintonista Trump has climbed in bed with Mitt. Possibly his best choice for Veep. A Clinton agent. When one side controls both parties, we only have one party. The Ruling Party.


Time for TEA!

25 posted on 03/05/2012 9:37:39 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (BO Stinks! Like Mitts magic underwear!)
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To: MestaMachine

ron gromneysan notwithstanding.


26 posted on 03/05/2012 9:38:07 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: UCANSEE2

That HBO “Game Change” nonsense movie.


27 posted on 03/05/2012 9:38:15 AM PST by dforest
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To: cripplecreek

Me too.

However, the movie’s premise could still be accurate if our two votes were outweighed by three people deciding to vote for Obama because they hated Sarah. And there is no doubt quite a few people did (and do).


28 posted on 03/05/2012 9:39:11 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Lazlo in PA

Is HBO still a cable channel?


29 posted on 03/05/2012 9:39:31 AM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: cripplecreek
Sarah Palin is the only reason I voted in the 08 presidential race.

I can say the same.

30 posted on 03/05/2012 9:43:26 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Right after her astounding convention speech - the best I have EVER heard - I went to my local (Beaverton, Oregon) McCain campaign office to volunteer and was told they were suddenly overwhelmed with volunteers after Sarah’s speech and would try to fit me in. Unfortunately I never did hear from them.


31 posted on 03/05/2012 9:48:31 AM PST by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Retired Greyhound

What do your moderate friends think now that we’ve had 3+ years of the communist?


32 posted on 03/05/2012 9:51:17 AM PST by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Lazlo in PA
McCain consistently held that lead until Sept. 15

And what happened September 14th? Lehman Brothers collapses and sets off the financial crisis. Take a look at McCain's Intrade numbers and bump them up against the DJIA. Almost a perfect correlation.

33 posted on 03/05/2012 9:53:21 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I ONLY voted in the 2008 election because if Sarah Palin, otherwise I would have stayed home. She was the only thing exciting about that campaign. McCain was an utter bore, when he said to that woman at a campaign event “You don’t have to be afraid of an Obama Presidency” I wouldn’t have blamed Sarah had she told McCain to shove it! The way I see it, John McCain cost Sarah Palin the election..its HIS fault and the idiots he put around him that she is not in the White House right now


34 posted on 03/05/2012 10:05:50 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: dforest

What is HBO?


35 posted on 03/05/2012 10:19:18 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I voted FOR Palin. McRino just happened to be on the same ticket.


36 posted on 03/05/2012 10:25:36 AM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: cripplecreek

I cursed McCain’s name as I voted for Sarah.


37 posted on 03/05/2012 10:31:04 AM PST by catbertz (Easter egg...I wants it.)
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To: Aria

Haven’t spoken to them. They moved to Palm Springs about two years ago. They are a gay couple (opposed to gay marriage, though - they think the idea is stupid). One of them was a big Reagan supporter in the 80’s, and still speaks fondly of RR.

They were big Hillary supporters in 2008 and absolutely despised Obama. They knew he was a con-artist. They liked John McCain, and really admired Cindy McCain for her philanthropic work, and they were all set to vote for McCain until he picked Palin. I think they actually ended up sitting the election out.

The reason they moved to Palm Springs is because their store that they had for over 20 years went under. So I suspect that they are not enjoying the Obama years very much.


38 posted on 03/05/2012 11:01:02 AM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: cripplecreek

Me too


39 posted on 03/05/2012 11:44:53 AM PST by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: Lazlo in PA

All one had to do was to witness one of her rallys. That alone would tell you how wrong they are about her costing McCain the election. However, in essence, she did do that, because people were voting for her and not McCain. She stole the election from Mc Cain.


40 posted on 03/05/2012 11:48:58 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO WE ELECT AS PRESIDENT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
All one had to do was to witness one of her rallys. That alone would tell you how wrong they are about her costing McCain the election. However, in essence, she did do that, because people were voting for her and not McCain. She stole the election from Mc Cain.

Goofy logic......

FWIW-

41 posted on 03/05/2012 11:54:28 AM PST by Osage Orange (Why do we eat Soylindra Green?)
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