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The Global State of Survival & Preparedness Report
SHTF School ^ | 3/8/12 | Jay

Posted on 03/08/2012 2:33:48 PM PST by Kartographer

We are really happy how many people participated in our survey. Over 1800 of you have answered the questions and I have spent the last few nights to whip all the responses into a presentable form. This is done now and I think it gives everyone a good idea what is on most people’s mind, why people prepare, what they prepare for and where you are standing compared to others.

(Excerpt) Read more at shtfschool.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: beprepared; getreadyhereitcomes; preparenow; prepperedness; prepperping; preppers; selfreliance; shtf; shtfschool; survivalping
From Part I of the Report:

Please describe in a few sentences what scenario you are preparing for and what events might trigger it.

Here is one response that is very typical for what many people wrote:

American or global economic collapse accompanied with massive civil unrest, supply chain disruptions, and limited to non-existent law enforcement services.
1 posted on 03/08/2012 2:34:00 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!


2 posted on 03/08/2012 2:35:01 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

If El Hierro volcano (Canary Islands) blows underwater, it could bring on a landslide and tsunami across the Atlantic to the US east coast within 12 hours.

IF this happens, we would be in a mini-Ice Age within a couple of months.


3 posted on 03/08/2012 2:50:01 PM PST by japaneseghost
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To: Kartographer
American or global economic collapse accompanied with massive civil unrest, supply chain disruptions, and limited to non-existent law enforcement services.

There are several reasons I'm concerned besides the above:

1) Lack of confidence in our current government leaders.

2) Skyrocketing prices which we're already seeing.

3) Natural disaster such as a flood or tornado. I always keep in eye on the weather because we've had to head for high ground in the past from floods. There's only one way out and it regularly floods. The last flood, two of the three roads past ours were washed away so it's prudent to have foodstuffs to last until the waters recede and the roads get repaired.

4 posted on 03/08/2012 3:16:24 PM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: Kartographer
Serious question for preppers: How much S do you expect to HTF if things go bad, and for how long?

I don't think that recent events in various countries are a good model for the United States, for a variety of reasons, especially our size and power, but I'm having trouble visualizing what the United States would be like in a collapse. Are we going to get through it much more quickly, with perhaps 3 months to a year of chaos, followed by a restoration of order, although with technology set back by a small number of decades? Are we going to slide permanently into the 1800s, and take the rest of the world with us? Will the military try to restore order, and will they be able to? Will we lose 5% of our population (the old, the weak, and the stupid criminals), or 90%?

My guess: The cities (almost any place with over 100,000 people, except for Salt Lake City) will get very ugly, and many will not be recoverable, but even ten miles beyond the city limits we will get back to a functioning society pretty quickly - within months. I'm preparing for a rough year, followed by decades of uncertainty, but I think even in a SHTF situation, I'll be over prepared. I also don't expect to see many zombie hordes roaming rural America. I expect most but not all of them to burn out pretty quickly, run out of ammo, fuel, gas, drugs, and alcohol, and turn inward on the cities where the people and the stuff are, rather than outward where people are too spread out and too well armed. They like apartments with yapping lap dogs a whole lot more than homes with a lot of land and unleashed dogs big enough to seriously hurt them.

5 posted on 03/08/2012 4:02:02 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: japaneseghost
"IF this happens, we would be in a mini-Ice Age within a couple of months."

How does a tsunami cause an Ice Age?

6 posted on 03/08/2012 4:03:26 PM PST by blam
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To: Kartographer

Why prepare? Because the chance of SOMETHING happening, is much greater than the chance of any one specific thing happening.


7 posted on 03/08/2012 4:03:57 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Kartographer

Get your life right with Christ, is what a true prepper does.


8 posted on 03/08/2012 4:17:32 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Pollster1
"I expect most but not all of them to burn out pretty quickly, run out of ammo, fuel, gas, drugs, and alcohol, and turn inward on the cities where the people and the stuff are, rather than outward where people are too spread out and too well armed."

So...what do these 'stay-at-home' zombies eat? There won't be 18 wheelers delivering loads of welfare food after TSHTF. You think they'll just close the apartment door and starve?

I agreee that there will be lots of urban chaos...once the strongest assert themselves, they'll turn their gaze toward you. You'll be left to deal with the survivors of the inner-city carnage...the absolute strongest and most viscious survivors and they will be on their way to see you shortly.

9 posted on 03/08/2012 4:17:44 PM PST by blam
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To: struggle

A true prepper follows the word as well.

Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. 1 Timothy 5:8

Now I ask you in the history of the world how many times has man or nature cause such devastation and misery that people have cried and and prayed that the Lord would end it all?


10 posted on 03/08/2012 4:24:54 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: blam
So...what do these 'stay-at-home' zombies eat? There won't be 18 wheelers delivering loads of welfare food after TSHTF. You think they'll just close the apartment door and starve? I...once the strongest assert themselves, they'll turn their gaze toward you. You'll be left to deal with the survivors of the inner-city carnage...the absolute strongest and most viscious survivors and they will be on their way to see you shortly.

I think they would like to turn outward once they run out of loot in their turf, but I suspect the cities will run out of gasoline, and the roads will become impassible due to abandoned vehicles and various accidents before many predators think to leave. I could be wrong, and I'm preparing as if I am wrong, but I think they will turn on each other as more convenient targets - I doubt that it will be easy to leave the cities except on foot after the first 24-48 hours of chaos. I just don't see criminals walking 20 miles, not when they can go door to door in a familiar area.

11 posted on 03/08/2012 4:28:21 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Pollster1

>>I just don’t see criminals walking 20 miles, not when they can go door to door in a familiar area.

In my suburban area 25 miles from the city we all have nice 1950’s brick houses with high windows that make for a great crossfire for the thugs. The problem is keeping the suburbans from shooting each other.


12 posted on 03/08/2012 4:52:05 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Kartographer

There really needs to be meeting locations set up all over the country. It won’t be easy for one person to defend a position. The only way to servive the “hoards” will be in numbers.


13 posted on 03/08/2012 5:03:07 PM PST by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin)
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To: Terry Mross

Which reminds me. NM Serious preppers FReep mail me.


14 posted on 03/08/2012 5:26:57 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

The Word Maps are very interesting. That is a great tool. Thanks for the ping.


15 posted on 03/08/2012 6:51:11 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: FrogMom

Ping for later.


16 posted on 03/09/2012 6:12:40 AM PST by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Kartographer
Kart, are there any sites that have recipes for dried survival foods?

Also could you add me to your ping?

17 posted on 03/09/2012 7:33:28 AM PST by Starstruck
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To: Kartographer

Kart, I know people should keep low-key about their preps, but how do you find others in your area? I live in an area with about 11 homes. We live about 5 miles from a town of approx 30,000 when our local university is in session. None of us even talk to each other except in passing, and others I don’t trust at all. I would very much like to be a part of a group that could depend on each other if something happens.


18 posted on 03/09/2012 7:45:06 AM PST by sneakers (EAT YOUR PEAS!)
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To: sneakers

There’s a couple web sites one being:

http://www.preppergroups.com and the other is

http://www.whenshtf.com/forum.php that have boards arranged by region or state so you can reachout.

Also talk around at your church bring up thinks casually and see where it leads.


19 posted on 03/09/2012 7:52:54 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Starstruck

take a look here:

http://www.aaoobfoods.com/recipes.htm


20 posted on 03/09/2012 7:57:12 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Pollster1

Depending on the S levels, it could be Katrina and the LA riots multiple times over. Agreed lazy criminals, the entitled, libs and other sheeple will stay within the cities for a while and feed upon themselves but eventually the not so lazy criminal element will wander out. I’ll never forget seeing that woman on the bridge in NO who refused a bottled water because it wasn’t chilled to her satisfaction. That’s the mentality of far too many people now days.


21 posted on 03/09/2012 10:30:56 AM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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