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BREAKING! SUNAHARA V. HDOH DISMISSED
Give Us Liberty ^ | March 8, 2012 | Dean C. Haskins

Posted on 03/08/2012 3:44:57 PM PST by Brown Deer

THE FRAUD AND DECEPTION CONTINUES!...

Unfortunately, the Judge ruled in favor of the State and effectively dismissed the Complaint.

Personally, I believe that this could be the result of the immense poisoning of vexatious and incompetent litigation that has plagued the Hawaiian court system, as this case should have been very easily won--if nothing but the law were considered. What other motivation could a state have for denying someone a photocopy of his deceased sister's original birth certificate? Developing . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; fraud; naturalborncitizen; obama; sunahara

1 posted on 03/08/2012 3:45:03 PM PST by Brown Deer
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To: Brown Deer

ok- wy do we care about this (serious question- I know it has something to do about The Won’s FAKE birth certificate)


2 posted on 03/08/2012 3:47:41 PM PST by Mr. K (Were the Soviet-Era propagandists as gleefully willing as our Lame-stream Media?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; Plummz; ...


THE FRAUD AND DECEPTION CONTINUES!...

RIP

3 posted on 03/08/2012 3:48:14 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Well, more proof that Hawaii is corrupt and does not follow their own laws.


4 posted on 03/08/2012 3:50:26 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Mr. K
The dead infant and the birth-certificate mystery
5 posted on 03/08/2012 3:53:11 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

The Uniform Information Practices Act (UIPA) has just been ripped to shreds. Courtesy of the “most transparent administration ever”.

Now I’ll go puke.

Does ANYBODY have any doubts left about the judicial system being totally corrupt? At both the federal and state levels. Totally lawless.

They are eliminating all the legal pressure release valves, and anybody who’s used a pressure canner knows what has to come next.


6 posted on 03/08/2012 3:58:29 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Brown Deer

They gave Virginia an amended bc two weeks after her birth and a number more than 400 past her birthdate...

7 posted on 03/08/2012 4:03:06 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: All

8 posted on 03/08/2012 4:05:59 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: butterdezillion

Does ANYBODY have any doubts left about the judicial system being totally corrupt? At both the federal and state levels. Totally lawless.
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NO!!!!


9 posted on 03/08/2012 4:18:07 PM PST by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Brown Deer

This is an outrage!!!!!! I think we now know for sure whose BC was used for his.


10 posted on 03/08/2012 4:19:19 PM PST by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: petercooper; Free America52; Centurion2000; Electric Graffiti; JDoutrider; FARS; PGalt; ...
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11 posted on 03/08/2012 4:24:43 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Brown Deer
Thanks for the Ping. This should have been an easy one, and yet the judge ruled in favor of the State. Just. . .great.
/s
12 posted on 03/08/2012 4:35:33 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: butterdezillion; Brown Deer
At that point there will be thirty (30) days to appeal the Judge's decision.

This was just step one of what had to be considered from the outset to be the most difficult undertaking of a lifetime - after all, they are attempting to dethrone the most powerful man in the world.

One hopes they anticipated the next step and are prepared to bring in the big guns. Even then, the only path to any semblance of justice may be very the path by which he attained his throne - the public's right to vote in a substantially error-free election.

13 posted on 03/08/2012 4:48:43 PM PST by frog in a pot
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To: Brown Deer

Did anyone realistically expect a different outcome???


14 posted on 03/08/2012 4:52:25 PM PST by epicurious
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To: All

15 posted on 03/08/2012 4:57:16 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: frog in a pot

I am now beginning to believe that there is no gun big enough to end this nightmare. This is indeed an outrage. And no one can blame Orly Taitz for this one. This is pure, unmitigated corruption.


16 posted on 03/08/2012 5:16:34 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: LucyT

17 posted on 03/08/2012 5:20:09 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Brown Deer

ping


18 posted on 03/08/2012 5:48:22 PM PST by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: MestaMachine

I wonder what a boycott of Hawaii would look like.


19 posted on 03/08/2012 6:28:07 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Are you kidding? It’s the playground of the left. The very rich left. Like nanzi pelosi.


20 posted on 03/08/2012 6:32:34 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine

Maybe we could get all the toilet paper companies to say they won’t sell to anybody in Hawaii.

Maybe we could refuse to hire any employees from Hawaii - because we can’t know whether or not their documents are real.

Obviously we could refuse to vacation there and make sure they know why.

What else could be done?

Turn off Hawaii Five-O? Though I don’t even know what it is because we don’t watch TV.

There has to be a way for the rest of the country to let Hawaii know that we don’t appreciate their treason.

Maybe we could reroute the Fast & Furious guns from Mexico to Hawaii.

Maybe we could send massive loads of teabags to that judge.

What could we do? Surely Cloward-Piven would have some ideas for how to punish them. How can we give them a dose of their own medicine?


21 posted on 03/08/2012 6:43:42 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Revoke their statehood?
Honestly, I don’t know a right answer for this.


22 posted on 03/08/2012 6:55:15 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: butterdezillion

If the mother is still alive, could they ammend the complaint with her name also ? Since she is party to the BC ( her name and signature being on it ), how can they deny her access since she is a legal party to the document ?


23 posted on 03/08/2012 8:06:41 PM PST by TheCipher
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To: TheCipher

That’s what I had suggested they do when they appealed. But it seems pretty clear that HI doesn’t really care what their laws say. HRS 338-18(b) gives Duncan permission to receive a copy of the BC, and UIPA says that if law allows the disclosure of a government record, the agency HAS to disclose it. The government record is the actual paper document, and it is discloseable to Duncan so UIPA requires it to be disclosed. The director has no authority to refuse THAT requested document by replacing it with a different document.

Their judiciary is just rotten. If they do this with this request they would do the same with a request from Clara. And technically Virginia’s long-form DOES refer to Duncan, because it asked how many children had been born to Clara, and one of those children was Duncan.

Only a fool argues with a fool, which makes it really rough when your entire government is a fool. These jackasses are going to be the death of the greatest nation that this world has ever seen. I’m just sad that a lot of good people get stuck going down with the ship too. Like my kids. These crooks are stealing my kids’ future.

I have to keep telling myself that they will see justice one Day. There is a Judge who deals honestly, and they will not be able to wriggle their way out of justice when they meet Him face to face. All the excuses will melt on that Day and all that will be left is the naked truth. It’s just a matter of time.


24 posted on 03/08/2012 8:24:02 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

I think the only medicine they’d pay attention to is whatever they (most likely) administered to Andrew Breitbart.


25 posted on 03/08/2012 9:39:36 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: MestaMachine
"I am now beginning to believe that there is no gun big enough to end this nightmare. This is indeed an outrage. And no one can blame Orly Taitz for this one. This is pure, unmitigated corruption."


26 posted on 03/09/2012 2:54:06 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Brown Deer

“What other motivation could a state have for denying someone a photocopy of his deceased sister’s original birth certificate? .....”

Patently obvious.


27 posted on 03/09/2012 5:30:47 AM PST by snafubar
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To: Brown Deer; David

Are there index records that cover the issuance of BC #51 61 10641?

Is there a way to compel discovery or issuance of the index or the actual Virginia Sunhara BC?

Any relevant control or index information?


28 posted on 03/09/2012 7:40:19 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: butterdezillion

Maybe we could all send a roll of toilet paper to the Judge.


29 posted on 03/09/2012 7:55:43 AM PST by Ray76
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To: Triple

The HDOH claims that the handwritten index records were destroyed (without first getting permission for the destruction of those PERMANENT records) when the system was computerized.

The only way to compel discovery of ANYTHING is through a FEDERAL subpoena. That’s why the only way for us to have any semblance of the rule of law is by having Congress appoint an independent prosecutor to investigate and prosecute the crimes committed in regards to Obama’s official records.

That’s why I posted at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2856341/posts a plea for people to contact their Congress-critters and Issa’s office to demand hearings on this issue, which is what Arpaio knows we need to do. I was hoping that people with ping lists would ping their lists but unless they did it privately, nobody has.

People are giving up. But I think we need to realize what we are signing this country over to if we give up now. At the very beginning of this mess I was saying that it was a matter of the rule of law - that if we ceded this we would be ceding the rule of law. As we’ve watched the courts, media, Congress, law enforcement, military, etc all descend into lawlessness it is becoming increasingly clear to everybody that this really IS about the rule of law. But the clear evidence that we’re fighting for the very existence of civilized society is resulting in people saying it’s too late, rather than saying it’s time to sound the trumpet and let even the floozies who haven’t paid attention know what the stakes are.

Part of that is because we have to alert people in spite of the media that is working against the truth. But we still have ping lists. We still have e-mail contacts. We still have tweets. Those things will eventually be taken away too, so it is critical for us to get the word out BEFORE they take those things away too.

The people in Congress who want to be re-elected need to be FORCED to make a statement on whether the crimes for which a law enforcement body has found probable cause, regarding a matter of national and international significance, will be investigated by Congress. And whatever they say needs to be broadcast in ads against their re-election. If they will not stand for the rule of law the public needs to know that. The biggest question we’re facing is whether civilization as we know it will continue to exist, or whether our leaders are signing this nation over to lawlessness. Because there is an election coming up we can have these politicians by the balls, if we only have the courage and wisdom to step up now and do what has to be done.


30 posted on 03/09/2012 8:05:06 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Ray76

There’s an idea. Maybe tell him we can smell him from Nebraska (or wherever we’re from). Great idea!


31 posted on 03/09/2012 8:07:28 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Ray76

Come to think of it, maybe we could do the same to Malihi and the superior court judge in GA, as well as our Congress-critters if they say they will not stand for the rule of law. And while we’re at it, we could do the same for all the media companies.

Perhaps we could write “The Rule of Law” in marker on the outer layer of the TP (or unroll it as far as we like and write it all over) and say that we thought they needed this because we can smell them all the way from wherever we’re at.

Or maybe to save postage money we could have somebody collect names of people who would like to have a roll of “The Rule of Law” TP delivered to these people, and put a sticker on the end of the roll saying who it’s from. Then somebody could hand-deliver it for all of us.


32 posted on 03/09/2012 8:18:20 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Brown Deer

It’s very odd how the director is given all this broad authority to LIMIT how the records can be released, even when there’s no compelling reason to limit the production of said records. People need to wake up tot he cover-up.


33 posted on 03/09/2012 8:52:41 AM PST by edge919
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To: butterdezillion

First Circuit Court
Rhonda Nishimura
Kaahumanu Hale
777 Punchbowl Street
Honolulu HI 96813

That’s a start. Unless we have somebody in HI who would be willing to deliver a bunch of TP rolls for us we’ll each have to spend the $5 to have them Fed-EX’ed.


34 posted on 03/09/2012 10:11:43 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: TheCipher
If the mother is still alive, could they ammend the complaint with her name also ? Since she is party to the BC ( her name and signature being on it ), how can they deny her access since she is a legal party to the document ?

If you want to be the one to hound an elderly woman for records of her daughter's death because you have a hunch that the President of the United States is using it in a massive coverup, be my guest.

35 posted on 03/09/2012 2:06:05 PM PST by Kleon
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To: Kleon; butterdezillion

Nobody’s talking about “hounding” someone. Seeing as her son is the plaintiff in the case, it was a obvious question that the son would be the one to do it.


36 posted on 03/09/2012 7:17:01 PM PST by TheCipher
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To: TheCipher

Even if the son just has power-of-attorney for Clara, he could be representing her.

But they’re just totally ignoring UIPA, which governs ALL government records, including vital records, and allows the actual original record to be inspected or copied as long as disclosure to that person is not forbidden by law.

And the judge let them get away with it, without so much as an answer. So much like Malihi.

“How DARE you think that I have to answer to YOU, or to THE LAW!!!!”

Exact same kind of pompous jackassery that characterizes Obama and everybody in his administration. They consider themselves above the law. If we let them be above the law, there will be no stopping them from doing whatever they darn well please. Surely everybody has to be able to see that!


37 posted on 03/09/2012 7:25:44 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: All

From what I read on the birther report, the papers filed only sourced the health department regulations as the authority for releasing the original copy, instead of the law which gives rights to a common descendant. The regulations only mention a common ancestor!!!! We need better, more thorough, lawyers on these cases!


38 posted on 03/09/2012 10:14:48 PM PST by Buttlefry
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To: Buttlefry
So plain language for the common man is dead, and only lawyers can now navigate the emanantions from penumbras from all laws, everywhere?

-PJ

39 posted on 03/09/2012 10:18:55 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: butterdezillion

But they’re just totally ignoring UIPA, which governs ALL government records, including vital records, and allows the actual original record to be inspected or copied as long as disclosure to that person is not forbidden by law.


is there anything that can be done? is there any HI attorney to confront this?


40 posted on 03/10/2012 3:21:14 PM PST by Yaelle (Santorum 2012 - we need a STEADY conservative President)
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To: Yaelle

I think it’s very similar to Georgia: the case could be appealed to the state Supreme Court, but they’re not going to rule against Obama. And they all know this is about Obama.

It’s more blatant - because there’s no interpretation necessary to know that no burden of proof is met when no evidence is presented, and that a document not forbidden for release has to be disclosed as allowed by law - but the judiciary has been wiping its bottom on the rule of law on the eligibility issue from Day One. And as long as the judiciary is willing to ignore the law, there’s nothing we can do about it within the legal system. At least not in time for this issue.

That’s why this has always been about the rule of law and not about Obama at all. If judges are able to ignore laws, procedures, precedents, etc, then ANYTHING could be ruled. If bureaucrats are able to make up whatever rules they want, ignore any rules they want, alter records at will, lie at will (as Holder wants government to be able to do in response to records requests), destroy records that are required to be stored permanently, refuse to look the right place for documents they have, and refuse to answer questions, requests, subpoenas, etc, then there is no assurance that ANY records or processes are genuine.


41 posted on 03/10/2012 7:27:22 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Sad state of affairs.

The truth will out. If only it could be revealed before he gets reelected. Something MUST happen.


42 posted on 03/10/2012 10:34:16 PM PST by Yaelle (Santorum 2012 - we need a STEADY conservative President)
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To: butterdezillion

Thanks for the address.

After checking around and finding nothing, I think we’ll have to send the TP on our own.

One for Nishimura, one for Malihi. I’ll wait and see what the Georgia Supreme Court does with the Discretionary Appeal.


43 posted on 03/15/2012 2:18:30 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: butterdezillion

The only way to compel discovery of ANYTHING is through a FEDERAL subpoena. That’s why the only way for us to have any semblance of the rule of law is by having Congress appoint an independent prosecutor to investigate and prosecute the crimes committed in regards to Obama’s official records.


Can anyone who is currently empaneled on a Federal Grand Jury issue a subpoena for Mr. Obama’s records?


44 posted on 09/27/2012 10:56:38 AM PDT by AlexisHeavyMetal1981 (x)
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To: Brown Deer

Since it is now clear that no court, no judge, no State legislature, no State Secretary of State or any election official is ever, every going to touch this steaming pile, what option is left to us?


45 posted on 09/27/2012 12:48:40 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Mr. K
The brother is trying to get a copy of his deceased sister's birth certificate, which is perfectly legal by EVERY rule that Hawaii has. Yet, they refuse to give it to him.

Some speculate that Hawaii is refusing because Obama's grandmother used the deceased baby's birth certificate number for her grandson's (Obama) falsified records, and Hawaii can't let the truth get out. Therefore, they are trampling on the brother's legitimate rights to access his sister's records as a part of the cover-up.

-PJ

46 posted on 09/27/2012 12:57:16 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't I naturally when you're not natural born.)
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