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Survival Boards ^ | 3/9/12

Posted on 03/10/2012 1:11:18 PM PST by Kartographer

While watching Doomsday Preppers last week, I observed one major difference in the various plans, and that was if the plan included access to land and water.

Its one thing to stockpile 2 – 3 years of canned goods, food in mylar bags, freeze dried food, have a rainwater collection system, small backyard garden,,,,.

Its another thing to have access to several acres of land, able to have chickens, a nice sized garden for a variety of fresh veggies, various types of fruit trees, access to fresh running water and access to land to hunt on. Maybe even have access to water to fish in.

Two of the main differences I see between the various long term SHTF survival plans, is access to fresh food and access to fresh water. People may argue there are lots of other differences, but for this article I wanted to talk about two main topics – water and fresh food.

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From a Bosina water survivor:

"Living near a well with a manual pump is like living in the Garden of Eden."

1 posted on 03/10/2012 1:11:22 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!

Northern and Central Freepers Preppers please Freep mail me.


2 posted on 03/10/2012 1:13:26 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Thanks; I needed that advice, K!


3 posted on 03/10/2012 1:33:32 PM PST by carriage_hill
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for the great work and devotion to helping all of us Kartographer!! Wish there were more like you out there....especially near where I live in SC!!


4 posted on 03/10/2012 1:33:50 PM PST by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: 4everontheRight

South Carolina! I would prefer sitting up shop there than the high and dry desert of New Mexico. Boy do I miss the South!


5 posted on 03/10/2012 1:37:11 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

All well in good until someone comes along and decides to take what you have.


6 posted on 03/10/2012 1:41:08 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Well they might even kill me with my own gun, but they will have to beat me to death with it as there won’t be one round left for them to shoot.


7 posted on 03/10/2012 1:43:04 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

In my research a small community seems like the best model. Sure is tough finding one with the right people though.

The article raises some good points though.


8 posted on 03/10/2012 1:44:35 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer

Well!!!! Come on back...plenty of room...that is for the like minded folk!


9 posted on 03/10/2012 1:48:24 PM PST by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: driftdiver

You do with what you have. You adapt you over come. Sure living in a little town full of preppers has the best chance, unless you are lucky or independently wealth such is very tough to find and make work. Who knows you getting your own land maybe the start of such a place. That’s basically what my plan is.


10 posted on 03/10/2012 1:49:09 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: 4everontheRight

If I hit the lotto maybe, but I’d be looking in the area where GA, NC, SC, and TN all come together.


11 posted on 03/10/2012 1:50:54 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

A large farm or range with like minded family and friends IS a prepper community.


12 posted on 03/10/2012 1:52:27 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Kartographer
Its another thing to have access to several acres of land, able to have chickens, a nice sized garden for a variety of fresh veggies, various types of fruit trees, access to fresh running water and access to land to hunt on. Maybe even have access to water to fish in.

For most, that's wishful thinking. Most don't have the $$$$ or they can't/won't relocate for various reasons such as jobs, schools, family, etc.

13 posted on 03/10/2012 1:54:51 PM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: bgill

Band together with those of like mind and start a refuge cut your cost share the work.


14 posted on 03/10/2012 2:00:07 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Don't neglect the value of a swimming pool if you have one. Keep chemicals and test kit for at LEAST 1 years...along with a good filer or two.

Spam. Tons of Spam. It's the most calorie-dense food you can stockpile.

Beans sealed in nitrogen. They sprout well...and then prevent scurvy.

NOTHING that you have to cook. Nothing.

You'll run out of energy...or attract zombies.

Plant your fruit tress now. Clear that 20 x 30 foot garden space NOW. Stock hand tools...old fashioned stuff of high quality. Keep two of everything.

And above ever water, have lots of weapons and ammo. You can't live past 3 days with water. Almost 3 months without food.

Less than 3 seconds without good weapons and the will to use them.

One other note for even urban and suburban residents: Little Dogs. Even Chihuahua. Their eyes, ears and snouts will save your life and they don't eat much. But they MUST EAT MEAT. They can scavenge many of the essentials from bugs and grass...but they must have meat.

No, not canned dog food unless it's of the highest quality. Buy very low sodium canned meat. It will keep for at least 10 years in sufficient quality to nourish your BEST FRIEND.

Man has not survived without dogs for at least 50,000 years and now some scholars are saying 250,000 years. There's a R E A S O N for that. Their loyalty and their senses. They can be indoors and hear a cat sneaking around across the street.

15 posted on 03/10/2012 2:27:56 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Spam. Tons of Spam. It’s the most calorie-dense food you can stockpile.
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What about crisco?


16 posted on 03/10/2012 2:31:42 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Kartographer
"..but I’d be looking in the area where GA, NC, SC, and TN all come together."

Same here.

Not miasmal swamp, year round surface water, pleasant weather, sparse population (relatively), fertile soil, gun friendly, few libs, a still here and there.

While waiting for TEOTWAWKI, some of those states have decent tax policies, especially if you're retired.

17 posted on 03/10/2012 2:32:42 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: Mariner

I thought that this would work in a pinch for our canine friends:

1/3 Boiled rice.

1/3 Vegetables (I’ve found green beans to work well.

1/3 Meat or eggs. Easy to but away extra powdered eggs of SHTF.


18 posted on 03/10/2012 2:44:58 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: SnuffaBolshevik
Oconee County, SC and Rabun County, GA would be very affordable, but they're too low, imho. Go on up the escarpment into NC and you hit resort and summer home territory, priced out of reach even still.

There are pockets where the locals live that aren't unreasonable, though. The real world always has to be somewhere nearby, for the people who keep it all running to reside. Rosman in Transylvania County, NC might work, no froufrou resort town at all, but it's very insular and not that welcoming to outsiders.

Just find a nice holler with a good creek, not too close or you'll get a flash flood next time the remnants of a hurricane stall out overhead. Only one way in and out, no through traffic would be helpful too. Such places are around, just seldom well known.

19 posted on 03/10/2012 2:52:09 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Thanks for the info, Reg.

I’m looking for a place where the Piedmont turns from flat to hilly - maybe a 20-40 acre place where I could raise a few steers if I wanted. Piss away some fuel in my little tractor.

As far as insular, I make it a point to mind my own business. My grandfather hopped a freight from eastern Kentucky to enlist in WW1 so I might still have the proper mindset. ;)


20 posted on 03/10/2012 3:18:21 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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