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Theodore Roosevelt thanks Grant for his racist, eugenic book
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Posted on 03/20/2012 12:51:34 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica

In Scribners' magazine, 1917, here is what Roosevelt wrote:

"The book is a capital book; in purpose, in vision, in grasp of the facts our people most need to realize. It shows an extraordinary range of reading and a wide scholarship. It shows a habit of singular serious thought on the subject of most commanding importance. It shows a fine fearlessness in assailing the popular and mischievous sentimentalities and attractive and corroding falsehoods which few men dare assail. It is the work of an American scholar and gentleman; and all Americans should be sincerely grateful to you for writing it"

- Theodore Roosevelt

This is also the book that's widely rumored to be Hitler's "bible". What great company, eh? Roosevelt and Hitler, great nationalists of world history. (that's sarcasm, for those who missed it) Now, I can't source that quote, so I do take it with a grain of salt. But I know there's plenty out there which is not available online.

It's important to note that Grant was a huge conservationist. But as is with everything else that progressives engage in, their stated goal is only a means. The end is what makes them dangerous.


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: madisongrant; progressingamerica

1 posted on 03/20/2012 12:51:39 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
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To: right way right; Tahoe3002; libertarian27; Noumenon; JDoutrider; OneLoyalAmerican; unkus; ...
If anybody wants on/off the revolutionary progressivism ping list, send me a message

Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.

2 posted on 03/20/2012 12:53:29 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (What's the best way to reach a you tube generation? Put it on you tube!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
He seemed to agree with Charles Davenport.

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3 posted on 03/20/2012 12:55:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Who is Grant?


4 posted on 03/20/2012 1:01:36 PM PDT by DManA
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Who is the “Grant” that this is referring to? I even went on the link and couldn’t find it. Is it Ulysses S. Grant?


5 posted on 03/20/2012 1:01:55 PM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Teddy Roosevelt may have been a Republican (until he became a Bull Moose), but he was very, very Progessive, which was the word that Marxists used back then.


6 posted on 03/20/2012 1:03:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ProgressingAmerica; woweeitsme; DManA

Madison Grant. 1865-1937


7 posted on 03/20/2012 1:04:27 PM PDT by marron
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Teddy Roseveldt was a vicious bigot, repeatedly writing about “how all the great races are warrior races” and other such precursors to Hitler.

How about this quote (one my 100% Mescalero Apache wife likes to point out):

“”I don’t go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of ten are, and I shouldn’t like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth.””


8 posted on 03/20/2012 1:04:27 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

UHm, ahem, “racist” and “racism” hadn’t yet been invented by the Soviets at that time. Just check a contemporary dictionary.


9 posted on 03/20/2012 1:04:52 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: woweeitsme

Evidently Madison Grant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Grant


10 posted on 03/20/2012 1:05:36 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: woweeitsme

Again, you are judging historical figures by today’s standards. This is 100 years ago, when there was limited knowledge about medicine in general, never mind genetics. TR was inquisitive about a subject that seemed to have possibilites to prevent illnesses and help the health of mankind. At the time, genetics was a blank slate. To judge these view equipped with the genetic knowledge of today would rightly produce outrage. To judge TR on his interest on the subject AT THAT TIME is just wrong. Hitler’s views were a full generation later and were far more involved, as were Margaret Sanger’s.


11 posted on 03/20/2012 1:10:49 PM PDT by cumbo78
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To: All

The link malformed when I put it into my posting, and didn’t carry over here.

Roosevelt is referring to Madison Grant, and his book “The Passing of the Great Race”. I changed the wording and corrected the link on the posting.


12 posted on 03/20/2012 1:13:33 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (What's the best way to reach a you tube generation? Put it on you tube!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian; cumbo78

—not long before his death, TR also made favorable note of a rising young Italian politician named Mussolini-—


13 posted on 03/20/2012 1:15:53 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: cumbo78

You’re wasting your time. All this blog pimp does is talk smack about T.Roosevelt. I’m sure he’s a much more accomplished man.


14 posted on 03/20/2012 1:17:00 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: cumbo78
Inquisitive? This doesn't sound inquisitive to me.

Theodore Roosevelt: We have no business to permit the perpetuation of citizens of the wrong type

15 posted on 03/20/2012 1:18:07 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (What's the best way to reach a you tube generation? Put it on you tube!)
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To: rellimpank

Hindsight makes judgment a little easier.


16 posted on 03/20/2012 1:18:13 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: woweeitsme

I don’t know great deal about Ulysses Grant, but even I know better than that.


17 posted on 03/20/2012 1:59:13 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (knowledge puffeth; information deludeth.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Mescalero Apache? Be careful what she puts in your pipe.


18 posted on 03/20/2012 2:07:36 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: EEGator
Hindsight makes judgment a little easier.

esp. to the willfully blind.

19 posted on 03/20/2012 2:10:29 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (knowledge puffeth; information deludeth.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Thinking -- or whatever you want to call it -- like that wasn't uncommon when the Indian wars were fresh in America's mind.

Mark Twain has a reputation as a great liberal on race -- not withstanding his frequent use of the n-word -- but some of the things he wrote about Indians and other races were quite nasty.

20 posted on 03/20/2012 2:19:43 PM PDT by x
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To: rellimpank
—not long before his death, TR also made favorable note of a rising young Italian politician named Mussolini-—

Careful.

There's a quote from Breckenridge Long, US Ambassador to Italy in the 1930s, that people are attributing to FDR and TR online.

Theodore Roosevelt died in January 1919. Mussolini didn't form the Fascist Party or movement until March 1919 and didn't take power until 1922.

21 posted on 03/20/2012 2:27:56 PM PDT by x
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To: rellimpank

Okay, that actually was a quote from FDR to Breckenridge Long, but it didn’t come from TR.


22 posted on 03/20/2012 2:31:10 PM PDT by x
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To: the invisib1e hand

Hah! I didn’t think so, but it didn’t say which Grant...that’s why I was looking for clarification.


23 posted on 03/20/2012 2:56:18 PM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: x; TheThirdRuffian; cumbo78

—my apologies to all—must be more careful on attributing quotes-—


24 posted on 03/20/2012 2:58:12 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank

I care more about deeds than ruminations.

The Great White Fleet was bully!


25 posted on 03/20/2012 3:19:14 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Bully, indeed. Bully the tarrif payers.

TR burned through the entire US Navy fuel budget by issuing those sailing orders, stranded the White Fleet fleet overseas without the financial means to return home. Took an act of Congress to bring them home. The first incidence of US government not living within it’s means, absent a war.


26 posted on 03/20/2012 3:58:05 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: cumbo78

“This is 100 years ago, when there was limited knowledge about medicine in general, never mind genetics. TR was inquisitive about a subject that seemed to have possibilites to prevent illnesses and help the health of mankind. At the time, genetics was a blank slate. To judge these view equipped with the genetic knowledge of today would rightly produce outrage.”

Genetics may have been “a blank slate” then, but much more is known about it now.

No serious researcher would dispute the ability of standardized intelligence tests to yield results that were representative of the group being tested.

See “The Bell Curve”…. which would surely be considered by some as “racis’” as Grant’s “The Passing of the Great Race”...


27 posted on 03/20/2012 4:05:39 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

You mean Senator Nelson W. Aldrich who opposed the fleet tour and didn’t want it funded? The same senator who created the central bank called the federal reserve in the United States? The man who helped create the destructive path we are flying down at breathtaking speed?

Bully the tariff payers? You sound like a free traitor and a fan of Sen. Aldrich.

BTW, loyal Americans know that tariffs are the constitutional source of funding for the federal government.


28 posted on 03/20/2012 4:24:37 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Defiant

“Mescalero Apache? Be careful what she puts in your pipe.”

She’s a trauma surgeon.

She could kill me about 1,000 different ways no one would figure out.


29 posted on 03/23/2012 12:08:02 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

The irresponsible spending habits of the Progressive republican TR administration is the subject of my White Fleet critique. Given the US House controls the Nation’s purse strings, Senator Aldrich is merely a sidebar.

Tariffs are supposed to be the means of funding the nation. House set tariff rates to balance a budget, senate concurs, executive follows spending plan. The way it used to work until TR.

In theory, a $100 tariff imposed against a good imported from Manilla, Philippines, offset a $100 commodity coal purchase for a US war ship’s coal bunker at Manilla harbor.

Why was this important? Without an act of congress, the White Fleet remains stranded in Manilla. An embarrassing international situation, all thanks to TR’s irresponsible sailing orders.

Increasing the tariff certainly pisses off the Philippine government; and likely ends up with an additional tariff imposed against US exports to the Philippines. Borrowing money reduces the amount available for the following fiscal year.

A Progressive bully, indeed.


30 posted on 03/23/2012 6:22:25 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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