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Anonymous Witness Police Used Tells Orlando Station Trayvon Martin Attacked George Zimmerman
Mediaite ^ | March 24, 2012 | Frances Martel

Posted on 03/24/2012 3:38:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

As the investigation into the investigation of the killing of Trayvon Martin continues, new facts are beginning to surface, and the Fox affiliate in Tampa Bay found an anonymous witness who spoke to them in George Zimmerman‘s defense, saying he saw the man who was mostly the aggressor in the struggle fall on the grass, dead.

Tampa Bay’s Fox 13 reported that the witness, who agreed only to be identified as “John,” saw the struggle and it was his testimony the police used to let Zimmerman go free (John spoke to Fox 13′s Orlando Affiliate, Fox 35). His statements to the cops were instrumental because Sanford police say those screams you hear,” the anchor notes, are Zimmerman’s and not Martin’s. Says John: “When I got upstairs and looked down, the person that was on top beating up the other guy was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point.”

The police report allegedly included notes of Zimmerman’s shirt being wet and grassy on the back, a sign of struggle. What it also includes, though, according to this report, is an initial assessment of the situation as “manslaughter and unnecessarily killing to prevent an unlawful act,” according to the first police officer on the scene.

This story is far from over as the story develops and Zimmerman’s side comes up to light. Given that the witness is anonymous and the only on-the-record supporters of Zimmerman’s are his parents, his neighbor, and his lawyer, however, a reasonable explanation for his behavior appears quite elusive. The station also compiled Zimmerman’s history of 911 calls, the police report from the night of Martin’s death, and a number of other handy documents to understand the situation.

The report via Fox 13 below:

(VIDEO AT LINK)


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I'm guessing that a neighborhood watch person would call the police more that you and I would. That's kind of the point, isn't it?
1 posted on 03/24/2012 3:38:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is an untold story in this case. Which liberals are not waiting to hear about.

This shooting happened a month ago. It’s only in recent days that the liberals decided to make this their latest cause celebre.

At the time of the shooting, the police did an investigation, filed a report, and the result was that there were no charges against Zimmerman. It was a case of self-defense.

Much of that report has not yet been made public.

You wonder if the liberals care about small details like the official police investigation into this shooting. Or do they just want to make their political statement.

Do liberals like Michael Moore just sit around, waiting for something in the news that they can weigh in on????

And then they weigh in without knowing all of the facts, since a number of facts haven’t yet been made public.

You wonder if all the facts will ever come to light.

For example, in the Rodney King case, they made it sound as if an innocent motorist was attacked by cops. In fact, King was leading police on a high speed chase at over 100 mph. He was fleeing a crime scene in which he was a prime suspect. That fact is not generally known to the public. The liberals used that case to enflame passions.

Is the untold story here something which will clarify what really happened?

I really don’t want to weigh in on this case until more facts are made publicly known.


2 posted on 03/24/2012 3:45:03 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Its becoming obvious that this whole thing was just a tragic chain of events with no more serious a crime committed than bad judgement.

The media & civil rights racket's reaction (including the POTUS), of course, has been typically disgusting, irresponsible and dangerous.

3 posted on 03/24/2012 3:45:03 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The police report allegedly included notes of Zimmerman’s shirt being wet and grassy on the back, a sign of struggle”

Nothing alleged about the contents of the report. Its in there.


5 posted on 03/24/2012 3:45:39 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
This shooting happened a month ago.

Now THAT I did not know.

6 posted on 03/24/2012 3:46:17 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

dang..everyone is making it sound like it just happened!


7 posted on 03/24/2012 3:48:04 PM PDT by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Did he say the black kid committed the crime???


8 posted on 03/24/2012 3:48:04 PM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: RummyChick

btw, just what was the kid doing in that subdivision anyway?


9 posted on 03/24/2012 3:50:06 PM PDT by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: RummyChick

He was suspended from school for five days (only scattered reports and speculation so far as to why) and was staying with his father and stepmother who lived in that subdivision. Interestingly, though shot a mere block from his home, he was apparently unidentified for three days in the morgue, as his parents did not report him missing.


10 posted on 03/24/2012 3:53:08 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: RummyChick

Scouting, maybe?


11 posted on 03/24/2012 3:53:13 PM PDT by John D
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To: driftdiver

The national “news” also reported tonight that Zimmerman had a broken nose and a head wound that required stitches.

It would not matter if he got the gun from Trayvon, the media spin is in.

They are using an older, innocent looking photo of Trayvon.

There is a photo of him on facebook, supposedly from his own page, looking quite “gangsta” and much older and bigger.


12 posted on 03/24/2012 3:58:13 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: 101stAirborneVet

So how does your 17 year old staying with you go missing for 3 days and no one thinks twice about it?????

Suspended from school for a week. That is interesting.


13 posted on 03/24/2012 3:59:12 PM PDT by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: MikeSteelBe
It would not matter if he got the gun from Trayvon

I didn't catch this report, is there talk that Z relieved M of the handgun that was used? That doesn't sound like anything else I've heard.

14 posted on 03/24/2012 3:59:51 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: 101stAirborneVet

visiting fathers girlfriend who lived in a townhouse. doesn’t say it was that particular subdivision.

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Trayvon-Martins-Friends-Say-He-Never-Picked-a-Fight-144089716.html

supposedly suspended for tardiness.


15 posted on 03/24/2012 4:02:37 PM PDT by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: 101stAirborneVet; MikeSteelBe
-- is there talk that Z relieved M of the handgun that was used? --

I think MikeSteelBe's remark is just that hypothetically, if Martin had been armed and intended to murder Zimmerman, that the media reports would be about the same as they are now.

The evidence in the case is quite clear that the weapon involved was Zimmerman's. There is no disagreement on that point. Zimmerman admits it, etc.

16 posted on 03/24/2012 4:04:42 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And why is this being released on a Saturday?


17 posted on 03/24/2012 4:05:10 PM PDT by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: RummyChick

discussion of the ALTERED photo that is being used

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2012/03/why-was-trayvon-martin-photo-altered.html

Original can be seen here
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/22/2708960/trayvon-martin-a-typical-teen.html


18 posted on 03/24/2012 4:05:44 PM PDT by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Zimmerman’s actions were justified his life is still ruined thanks to the left wing media.

Michael Berry was talking on his show the other day about how many black kids have been killed in New Orleans and Chicago this year and Sharpton, Jackson and obama haven’t said a thing. Because all of those kids were killed by other blacks.

It’s sounding more and more like a true case of self defense. But even if it came out that the kid had a gun the left would say he was “pushed” into using it.

Zimmerman needs to put some Hispanic family members our front yelling RACISTS!


19 posted on 03/24/2012 4:06:04 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( "It happened. And we let it happen. - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: Cboldt
OK. I read the police report, so I was a bit confused about that bullet point.

Thanks for the clarification.

20 posted on 03/24/2012 4:06:18 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: RummyChick

His dad had taken him over to the fiancee’s (dad’s gf)house to watch the NBA Allstar game.

Trayvon had walked to the 7-11 (.o7 miles away) in the rain to get Skittles for his little brother.

One account has Trayvon’s mother saying Trayvon went to the store because he was bored.

Dad and Trayvon were visitors to the gated community.


21 posted on 03/24/2012 4:06:34 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: 101stAirborneVet
Interestingly, though shot a mere block from his home, he was apparently unidentified for three days in the morgue, as his parents did not report him missing.

That is what I can't understand. Why wait so long?

22 posted on 03/24/2012 4:07:28 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedys float, Mary Jos don't)
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To: RummyChick

http://www.ecollegetimes.com/student-life/trayvon-s-parents-paint-portrait-of-typical-teenager-1.2719314

“Still, Trayvon had nonviolent behavioral issues in school, and on the day he was killed, he had been suspended for 10 days from Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School in North Miami-Dade.

“He was not suspended for something dealing with violence or anything like that. It wasn’t a crime he committed, but he was in an unauthorized area (on school property),” Martin said, declining to offer more details.


23 posted on 03/24/2012 4:10:35 PM PDT by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: RummyChick

Oh, please, RummyChick. My eyes, my eyes.
Did you have to post that pic before supper?


24 posted on 03/24/2012 4:11:19 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Terry Mross

Obama picked the wrong victim to start a race war. Hispanics versus Blacks.

Whites on the sideline.

Where is La Raza in all of this?


25 posted on 03/24/2012 4:12:36 PM PDT by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: skeeter

THIS happened or week or so ago:

While the Zimmerman/Martin ‘white’ on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by a gang of feral blacks in Oklahoma just last week?

The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.

The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.
(She was most likely gang raped numerous times...but we will never know for sure)

Both the husband and wife were weak, having just gotten over the flu.

.

There’s a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.

WHERE ARE THE CHARGES OF A RACIAL HATE CRIME??

90 year old husband’s jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?

85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??

Where is the 24/7 MSM coverage?

Where is the outrage?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html


26 posted on 03/24/2012 4:14:47 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: 101stAirborneVet

Interestingly, though shot a mere block from his home, he was apparently unidentified for three days in the morgue, as his parents did not report him missing.

_________________-

Martin went to the store, didn’t return and the family did not report him missing for three days???

What kind of bunch IS this?
I have a feeling we’ll be finding out a lot of unsavory stuff about this bunch.


27 posted on 03/24/2012 4:17:37 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: patriot08

I believe Zimmerman is Hispanic.


28 posted on 03/24/2012 4:18:42 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( "It happened. And we let it happen. - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: Terry Mross
I believe Zimmerman is Hispanic.

Oh wow, I just realized its Saturday, and a lot of folks haven't yet read the gazillion threads here on this as they haven't logged in all week.

You guys have a lot of catching up to do lol.

29 posted on 03/24/2012 4:22:37 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: RummyChick

Gotta tell you, RummyChick, that this is one of the most offensive and repugnant pictures I have ever seen.


30 posted on 03/24/2012 4:25:33 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: 101stAirborneVet

I have seen he was suspended for 10 days, too. I’m not sure which it is.

There was a story that won’t pull up for me now—it had some interesting comments from Trayvon’s mother.
www.nytimes.com/ 2012/ 03/ 17/ opinion/ blow-the-curious-case-of-trayvon-martin.html

Also, check out this article...
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20581404,00.html

“I had gone out for dinner,” says Tracy, “and when I got home, Trayvon wasn’t there. I tried calling his cell phone several times, and it went straight to voicemail. I wasn’t that worried, because he had been spending time with my 20-year-old nephew who was a responsible young man. There wasn’t a panic that he wasn’t at home. I figured that they had gone to the movies, because they had said they might. So I laid down, thinking they would show up later.”

So, if the father wasn’t home, where was the little brother Trayvon supposedly went to get Skittles for? This explains how the *Trayvon went during NBA Allstar Halftime to buy Skittles for his little brother* (Trayvon dead by 7:17 and the game didn’t start until 7:30pm). The father wasn’t even home. Was little brother left alone? This gets more and more twisted by the moment.


31 posted on 03/24/2012 4:30:47 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

..untold story in this case.

i agree. i feel that while things are ratcheted up against
rush, war on women blah blah,the journolist-type cabal,who
are probably always on the lookout for such opportunities,
figured this was close enough and wanted to capitalize on the timing and got it going.
also, after piecing together all this info, i get the feeling zimmerman was heading back to his car as he was instructed after trying to find out if the kid was legit or
al least keep him moving if he wasn.
the martin kid likely felt ‘dissed’ as is common with that
age group, especially while talking to his girl, and decided
he could put a little beatdown on the guy, not considering the possibility of the gun. zimmerman walking away gave him
the sense of getting back in control.
but its just a theory, from a couch commando! LOL


32 posted on 03/24/2012 4:32:54 PM PDT by americas.best.days...
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To: Dilbert San Diego

..untold story in this case.

i agree. i feel that while things are ratcheted up against
rush, war on women blah blah,the journolist-type cabal,who
are probably always on the lookout for such opportunities,
figured this was close enough and wanted to capitalize on the timing and got it going.
also, after piecing together all this info, i get the feeling zimmerman was heading back to his car as he was instructed after trying to find out if the kid was legit or
al least keep him moving if he wasn.
the martin kid likely felt ‘dissed’ as is common with that
age group, especially while talking to his girl, and decided
he could put a little beatdown on the guy, not considering the possibility of the gun. zimmerman walking away gave him
the sense of getting back in control.
but its just a theory, from a couch commando! LOL


33 posted on 03/24/2012 4:35:39 PM PDT by americas.best.days...
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To: RummyChick

Look for a reshuffling of political alliances.

Obama really miffed this one.


34 posted on 03/24/2012 4:40:12 PM PDT by NoLibZone (When will Obama call Trayvon's mom? He was quick to call Sandra Fluke.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bfl


36 posted on 03/24/2012 4:47:16 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: RummyChick; Admin Moderator

May I start a thread on this article?

Thank you.

discussion of the ALTERED photo that is being used

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2012/03/why-was-trayvon-martin-photo-altered.html

Original can be seen here
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/22/2708960/trayvon-martin-a-typical-teen.html


37 posted on 03/24/2012 4:47:47 PM PDT by NoLibZone (When will Obama call Trayvon's mom? He was quick to call Sandra Fluke.)
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To: Terry Mross

“I believe Zimmerman is Hispanic.”

Latest I’m hearing is Z’s Dad is Jewish, his Mom was born in Peru? Is that “Hispanic”?


38 posted on 03/24/2012 4:51:42 PM PDT by ngat
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To: RummyChick

“...but he was in an unauthorized area (on school property),” Martin said, declining to offer more details.”

Hadn’t heard that. Does that mean he was a lurker?


39 posted on 03/24/2012 4:54:43 PM PDT by ngat
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To: NoLibZone

Just add your comments here. Also the photo on Miami Herald is a Getty Image photo.


40 posted on 03/24/2012 5:08:07 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: driftdiver

Events planned on Western Michigan University’s campus in response to Trayvon Martin case

>>An open discussion about race in America titled “The Elephant in the Nation” is planned for 6 p.m. Saturday in Hoekje Hall.<<

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2012/03/events_planned_on_western_mich.html#incart_river_default


41 posted on 03/24/2012 5:13:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Admin Moderator

What is the significance of a Getty photo?

(Not being a smart aleck..I truly don’t know.)


42 posted on 03/24/2012 5:13:54 PM PDT by berdie
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To: 101stAirborneVet

He was suspended for 10 days and his father said it was for being in an unauthorized area of the school- but he wouldn’t elaborate. I’m guessing the school caught him breaking into an office or other area in order to steal.


43 posted on 03/24/2012 5:15:00 PM PDT by Krankor (eenie meenie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak.)
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To: berdie

Certain things are copyrighted and can’t be posted here.


44 posted on 03/24/2012 5:17:45 PM PDT by McGruff (Newt Gingrich, the closest thing we've got to Sarah Palin.)
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To: 101stAirborneVet

I had read that he was suspended for being late too many times.

I’m on a phone, so I can’t copy and paste, but that is what I had read.


45 posted on 03/24/2012 5:20:44 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: 101stAirborneVet; patriot08; pepperhead; RummyChick; Irenic
Interestingly, though shot a mere block from his home, he was apparently unidentified for three days in the morgue, as his parents did not report him missing.

Not exactly. His father was not home at the time of the shooting. He returned later, tried to call Trayvon and got no answer, which he thought was a little surprising, but wasn't worried. He fell asleep and was scared when he woke up and Trayvon was still not there, so he called the police. They came over to the house to see a picture, and identified him then. The next morning - not three days. Here is the dad's story.

46 posted on 03/24/2012 5:23:20 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: Krankor

Yes, to sell so he could buy his drugs and pimp some prostitutes.

sarc.


47 posted on 03/24/2012 5:26:11 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: PhatHead
Good to know. I was going based on what the NBP said.

Thanks for the update.

48 posted on 03/24/2012 5:29:20 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: patriot08

Individual Americans who consider themselves sovereign and who are NOT clients of the State need to understand that this government and this news media are our enemy who not only do not care if we live or die, but are willing to kill as many of us as it will take to achieve their political goals.


49 posted on 03/24/2012 5:29:44 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Irenic
So, if the father wasn’t home, where was the little brother Trayvon supposedly went to get Skittles for? This explains how the *Trayvon went during NBA Allstar Halftime to buy Skittles for his little brother* (Trayvon dead by 7:17 and the game didn’t start until 7:30pm). The father wasn’t even home. Was little brother left alone? This gets more and more twisted by the moment.

I have no idea where the NBA All-Star Game story came from. I've seen it repeated in several news stories even though it is easily shown to be false, as you and I both did on our own.

To be honest, I don't know where the Skittles story came from, or why it even matters, except that it is all meant to paint a certain sort of picture. Isn't it enough just to say he was returning to his father's place? As the story you linked to shows, it isn't his family who offered the stories of Skittles and basketball.

There are just too many people assuming, exaggerating and simply making things up in this story to try to reinforce whatever version of events they've decided is true.

50 posted on 03/24/2012 5:30:03 PM PDT by PhatHead
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