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Common sense: Why Romney will not maximize white conservative, evangelical turnout and lose to Obama
March 25, 2012 | techno

Posted on 03/25/2012 12:56:59 PM PDT by techno

10 common sense reasons based on my knowledge of human perception, human relationships and leadership and motivational skills why I believe Mitt Romney will NOT maximize conservative, evangelical turnout and lose to Obama:

1)Lack of AFFINITY for Mitt Romney among voters. For those in Rio Linda, it means a lack of identification or a NATURAL LIKING or a lack of CONNECTION between people. Romney is simply not a lot of people's cup of tea demographically or culturally, let alone politically.

2)Extreme anger and indignation at Romney's carpet-bombing tactics against both Gingrich and Santorum. Many conservatives will be willing to forgive and forget and bury the hatchet at the convention, but not everyone.

3)Buying into Santorum's argument (which I agree with) there is "little difference between Tweedledum and Tweedledee." (Romney and Obama)

4)Mitt Romney is NOT a likable or sympathetic character as McCain or Dole were as war veterans who had been physically maimed. Some conservatives voted for McCain and Dole as payback for the service to their country. Romney will NOT pick up these voters.

5) Religious reasons--polls over the years have consistently shown there is a segment of the evangelical population who in their heart of hearts tell pollsters they cannot or will not vote for Romney, a Mormon.

6)Mitt Romney is destined to only command 40% of the primary vote. There will be a widespread feeling among conservative and evangelicals that he is "a pretender to the throne" and that he doesn't deserve my vote.

7)Etch a Sketch will come back to haunt and define Romney. Some voters will NOT vote for a candidate they don't TRUST implicitly. Like McCain with illegal immigration, Romney with Romneycare will cause more passionate, ideological voters to opt not to vote at all.

8)The Left and media will make Romney into a repugnant character. For those in Rio Linda, repugnant is defined as somebody or something that is offensive and COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE or revolting. Personally, I am already there on Romney; it won't take much to convince other conservatives of that perception as well.

9)Not all conservatives and evangelicals are Republicans. A good number are INDEPENDENT voters and have no connection with Romney whatsoever which include white working class conservatives and mid-western and southern evangelicals.

10)Mitt Romney is NOT talented enough a politician or charismatic enough to maximize white conservative, evangelical turnout. The narrative "vote for me because you hate Obama more than you hate me" will NOT work on everybody.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: blowhard; politics; republicans; romney; romney4bigdig; romney4deathpanels; romney4endlesslies; romney4romneycare; santorum

1 posted on 03/25/2012 12:57:12 PM PDT by techno
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To: techno

I agree.


2 posted on 03/25/2012 1:01:03 PM PDT by Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri
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To: techno

Fine, so let one of the other candidates beat him in the republican primaries.

Imho there are very few ways for Obama to win reelection.


3 posted on 03/25/2012 1:02:36 PM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Williams
Imho there are very few ways for Obama to win reelection.

Running against Mittens in the general is one of them.

4 posted on 03/25/2012 1:12:58 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Williams

The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.” — Author Unknown

I give 0bama 50-50.


5 posted on 03/25/2012 1:13:47 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: techno

The number ‘10’ has a mysterious awe about happenings eg. Commandments, knockout count, etc. I would bet you could have added one more reason to make a total of ‘11’ and a winner.


6 posted on 03/25/2012 1:15:24 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: techno

11) Romney is a Democrat.


7 posted on 03/25/2012 1:17:14 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: techno
#3 No difference.

Mitt admits he's a republican because nobody ran against him.

Mitts ties to conservatism, and the R party, by Mitt himself.

.25 sec youtube

8 posted on 03/25/2012 1:21:43 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (3 little girls murdered by islam, Toulouse March 2012 . Time for the Final Crusade!!!!!)
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To: noinfringers2

I will never vote for Romney in any election. The Eastern liberal take us for granted just like they did when Bush 1 lied and raised Taxes. Just like that idiot bob Dole. Just like that horrible McCain. They will learn again I guess. To Hell with Romney.I just hope he has another political wheel come off like his “etch a sketch” announcement. In the mean time Santorum is going to win Pennsylvania and TEXAS!! Huge delegate counts. Pray Romney keeps screwing up. Does he wear magic underwear like Mormons do?


9 posted on 03/25/2012 1:22:44 PM PDT by tpuskett
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To: techno

People need to write to their congressman, their state GOP chairs, and to the national GOP chair and tell them that Romney cannot win.

They’re counting on us to do as we’re told but we need to tell them that we will not. Even if you intend to hold your nose and vote for Romney, I ask you to tell the GOP that you won’t.


10 posted on 03/25/2012 1:24:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: techno
#8 is gonna make Sat Night Live watchable again.

They still have the kidgloves on Mittens. Until the Nom.

11 posted on 03/25/2012 1:24:20 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (3 little girls murdered by islam, Toulouse March 2012 . Time for the Final Crusade!!!!!)
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To: techno

So what? If Santorum or Newt is the guy, there will be other parts of the Republican Party that won’t get out and vote for them and Obama will beat them too. The Conservative wing of the Repub Party cannot elect anyone by themselves either. This is getting more foolish every day.


12 posted on 03/25/2012 1:38:45 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: techno
So who would be a stronger candidate?

Not just with this one group, but with the electorate as a whole.

13 posted on 03/25/2012 1:44:09 PM PDT by x
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To: techno

The Republican nominee (no matter which candidate) will win the presidential election in one of the deepest, broadest landslides in American history.


14 posted on 03/25/2012 1:54:38 PM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: Ge0ffrey

Bet on it.


15 posted on 03/25/2012 2:05:00 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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To: Ge0ffrey

Bet on it.


16 posted on 03/25/2012 2:05:40 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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To: Williams; techno
Imho there are very few ways for Obama to win reelection.

Romney is a sure-fired way for Obama to win re-election, in fact, the MSM, the DNC, and Obama are salivating at the prospect of facing Mitt Romney.

With his progressive liberal record as Governor of MA, all the MSM has to due is bring up the treasure trove of left-wing behavior and actions of Mitt and they know they can totally destroy the potential candidate of Romney.
17 posted on 03/25/2012 2:33:43 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Ge0ffrey; namvolunteer
The Republican nominee (no matter which candidate) will win the presidential election in one of the deepest, broadest landslides in American history.

Talk about having your head in the sand.

Romney is the only candidate gauranteed to usher in a landslide victory for Obama of epic proportions.

With Romney's EXTREME Progressive Liberal record, Obama and his minions in the MSM will utterly destroy him with his own words and actions.

Obama won't even break a sweat.

Romney's Progressive Liberal Record:

1. Implemented and supported Gay Marriage
2. Supported and forced Gay Adoption
3. Supported the Brady Bill
4. Implemented a state-level "Assault" Weapons Ban AFTER the Federal AWB was allowed to expire.
5. Supported TARP
6. Believes in Man-Made Global Warming.
7. Supported a state level Cap-and-Trade system in MA.
8. Supported Amnesty for Illegal Aliens (pathway to citizenship)
9. Raised taxes/fees by 300% while governor of MA.
10. Implemented a Socialist Health-Care program in MA called RomneyCare with $50 dollar Abortions and an Individual Mandate.

18 posted on 03/25/2012 2:37:32 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: unkus

This is a very poignant summary of the conditions existing in the USA today. I believe the dilemma facing the USA results from unbridled immigration policies over the years to be accommodating to many people from all over the world who are here legally and illegally not to be citizens of the USA Constitution but instead to propagate the the world from which they ran away from. My parents were immigrants and despite some rude encounters my brother who was killed on Okinawa and myself an over seas vet of WWII were always taught by our mother (father had died before I was born) that to be proud of the USA was the most important thing in our lives and this was during the very rough days of the depression.


19 posted on 03/25/2012 2:46:37 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2

Well said. Thank you for your service, Sir.


20 posted on 03/25/2012 3:15:08 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: EGPWS
Imho there are very few ways for Obama to win reelection.

Running against Romney is the easiest one of those ways.

21 posted on 03/25/2012 4:22:19 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: unkus
I give 0bama 50-50.

I'd say 60-40 against Millard.

Reverse that for anyone else.

Millard can't unify the base.

When the left attacks his religion in 30 second sound bytes, those talking points will be the most many people have ever heard about Mormonism. They will accept the attack as truth.

And we won't be able to convince them otherwise, because when they attack things like blacks, indians and people of color like my son being considered cursed people through the 70's, it will be the truth.

And if people turn around and state "Oh, that's changed" the argument will come, "How can it change? Wasn't this dictated through magic seeing stones from the original lost texts that haven't been seen since the book or Mormon was written?"

Look, the Mormons I know are nice people, and I'll defend their right to believe and pursue happiness. However when it gets to the content and text of their faith in a legitimate debate, that's not my fight.

And it will become one during the election. Count on it.

This will not end well. Can you imagine if we have this crap with Trayvon Martin, even when there's a witness that says he was the attacker, imagine how would one defend institutionalized discrimination based on color?

Forget that...it even pisses me off.

Forget the fact that the only true measure we have of romney in a governing position is that he is a liberal sellout who embraces the left like a sweaty lover (end of sentence censored.)

I'm just laying out the truth here. If he wins the nomination, Mitt's going to get creamed and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

22 posted on 03/25/2012 4:48:16 PM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Williams

“Imho there are very few ways for Obama to win reelection.”

I disagree. If mitt is the nominee, you might as well vote 3rd party. There is no way mitt can win... You can take that to the bank. Mitt will be the spoiler for the third party candidate.


23 posted on 03/25/2012 4:58:31 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: Caipirabob

You get no argument from me. I think this country, for the most part, has been so dumbed down, so complacent, so ungreatful and simply disgraceful, that it’s better that it go down. When the stuff does hit the fan, there is going to be very little sympathy from me. I just feel sorry for the little innocent children.


24 posted on 03/25/2012 5:00:39 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus
I just feel sorry for the little innocent children.

Absolutely...the freedom we grew up with and knew and loved? Will they ever know the same thing in their lives?

Sorry, was ranting, not lecturing. Thanks for listening - cheers!

25 posted on 03/25/2012 5:16:16 PM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: techno; All

Too many Republican voters have voted in the primaries for Romney, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON’T LIKE HIS POLITICS, because they THINK he can beat Obama.

Too bad they don’t remember what happened to the last liberal Republican - John McCain.


26 posted on 03/26/2012 1:38:06 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: techno

Obama isn’t going to be maximizing his base either. The progressives think he is a sellout to the banks (true) and the independents now think he is a racist radical activist (true). Broken Glass Democrats will still vote for him, but he’s facing a defection rate of at least 20%.


27 posted on 03/31/2012 2:19:36 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: EGPWS

Running against Santorum and Gingrich are two other ones.


28 posted on 03/31/2012 2:25:56 PM PDT by magritte (Gladys Knight: Mormon Siren?)
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To: techno

It is odd, conservatives have trashed everyone other than Romney allowing Romney to win. Instead of supporting the ABR who gets the most votes, we trash them. Now we say Romney can’t win and we ain’t voting for him and we are going to insure he doesn’t win.

That is called cutting off your nose to spite your face.


29 posted on 03/31/2012 2:30:12 PM PDT by dforest
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