Skip to comments.Ruger Mini 14
Posted on 03/29/2012 4:54:07 PM PDT by pfflier
Do any Freepers out there have an opinion on the Ruger mini 14 .223 ranch or tactical carbine? I researched online and comments are good.
Get an AR 15.
The Ruger Mini-30 does look like a larger caliber alternative to the Mini-14.
In this video the guy firing his Mini-30 is hitting a target out at 420 yards. Not bad!
Fun, reliable, not too accurate. I know several people who keep them in boats.
You can modify M4 mags to fit with a dremel tool.
It’s based on the M-14 M1-garand. The mechanism is kind of clunky and noisy.
I uses it for zombies. An AK-47 knockoff is the nearest competition.
The article you posted doesn’t seem to say anything about Mini 14s, though several of the comments address it. I’ve shot 5.56 NATO in a Ruger Mini 14 Ranch Rifle for years.
The Mini 14 is a very good carbine, if used as a carbine. It is quite accurate with its iron sights out to 200 yards (I routinely put all my shots within an 8-inch circle at that distance with that little carbine). It is not a tack driver, nor a long-distance rifle. It’s intended use is for relatively close work within 200 yards, and especially within 100 yards.
Comment #19 by The KG9 Kid summed it up very well. It’s a real good comment about the Mini-14.
You don’t have to go with an AK clone to get a good AK carbine. Saiga is an AK that meets US “sport” standards and is made in the AK factory in russia. I have the 5.56/.223 carbine and love it. Paid just over three hundred NIB.
Get the mini 30. Ammo Is cheaper. You may have to put a heavy duty Wolff hammer spring if you want to shoot the hardest ruskie ammo. But that is an easy mod.
I’ve had the mini 30 for five years. I love it.
Ati makes a great after market stock called the strikeforce. Get the aluminum upgrad kit. Put on an eotech holo site and you will have an excellent tactical weapon that shoots cheap ammo.
I love the gas system which was copied from the M1 Garand. Easy to breakdown. Easy to clean. Fun to shoot.
One more mod. Adjustable gas block
Reliable as hell, but accuracy is wretched. Seems ok with iron sights, but put a scope on it and you’ll swear there is something wrong with it.
If going for a Ruger mini-14. 7.62x39 is the way to go, more punch for lunch than .223.
Not as accurate as the AR-15. But the design is a tried and true design that is very reliable. I have owned one and am buying a new one soon.
If you can swing it...the AC556 is alot of fun...about $4-5k nowadays, and your $200.00 NFA tax.
Love my Mini-14 in stainless, and almost all the points here are quite right on....
But best analysis/review I ever read nets it out best - by former combat experienced guys:
Under 100yds, they prefer the Mini-14. Near 100yds and out, it’s just not accurate enough, and you’d better have an AR-15 or something similar. Close up, they pick the Mini-14 hands down.....
Mini 14 - nothing wrong with it at all.
Depends on the size of your block.
If you’re talking in the 100-150 yards range, you’ll likely be OK for all practical purposes.
I believe in blaming my gun. My son-in-law has a target grade 38 that I refuse to shoot, since I wouldn’t have any excuse for missing...
If you want something to shoot at the range, the mini-14 is fine. If you want something in case of SHTF, TEOTWAWKI or the Zombie Apocalypse you need the Stag Model 3.
“Known problem with vertical stringing after multiple rounds.”
For self defense, aim at the crotch. You’ll get everything else as a bonus!
They’re carbines with a Garand rotating Bolt and Gas System firing sub-rifle cartridges (.223 and 7.62 Russian), where as the Garand and M14 are full size rifles firing full size cartridges. The Minis are much easier to pack whether on foot, horse, atv, snowmachine or small plane.
and the scope mount is only good enough to show you how far off target your shot missed by.
but buy a few of them, there cheap, you can trade one for a can of peaches when the SHTF. Get an AR-15... :)
7.72x39 has very similar ballistic properties to the 30-30. Both have dropped every critter that walks or crawls in North America. I have a few .223 caliber guns but I’m not real fond of the cartridge, especially up here in AK.
That’s pretty harsh. The shooter gets to “know” his firearm.
LOL! That’s precious....
Funny enough, but I have a mini and have no problems with it. I do not own an AR but I am satisfied with my 14.
Like I said!
Not basically an M14.
I’ve had my stainless 25 years and it will shoot anything that will fit in the magazine. Not a tack driver, Butt virtually unbreakable. Light and dirt does not bother it.
We had one. It was pretty sad. I don’t know maybe we just had a lemon. Wouldn’t hit the side of a barn Gave it away. I love my Polish AK 74. Dead accurate to 200 yards right out of the box.
I have had several Mini’s. I tried to love them, but they just didn’t satisfy. The mini-14s were not accurate. The magazines were either expensive or poor quality. They had problems with the cheap steal cased ammo.
The Mini-30 was even worse. There were no hi cap magazines that worked. And all that cheap steal cased 7.62x39 ammo out there was not usable according to the manufacturer. And both Mini-14 and Mini-30 jammed if you did use that cheap ammo.
Instead, get a Polish Tantal style AK-74 with a folding stock, or Century M-74 (Ak 74 style semi auto). They are accurate, handy lightweight, accurate as any gun can be with iron sights, and best of all you can buy surplus Russian ammo for it which is the cheapest ammo on the market. 1080 round sealed cans for $135 you just can’t beat, and the round is comparable to the .223
If you want something with more power, look at a Saiga chambered in .308, and it also shoots that cheap Tula Russian steal cased ammo very well.
Of course the AR is an absolutely top rate rifle in every aspect, perhaps somewhat better than the Russian stuff but also more pricy.
All of which are much more accurate, inexpensive, fun and usable than the Mini I am sorry to say.
The Ruger Mini-14, Ranch Rifle, and Mini-30 should not be on your radar unless you can get it very, very cheap. Even then, it's not much of a bargain. Forget ordering one because Ruger has 1 million guns back ordered and has suspended taking any more orders for anything. If you need a reliable rifle, get yourself an SKS or AK clone.
The SKS is robust and accurate and in 7.62x39. AK clones are available in 7.62x39, 5.45x39, and .223 Remington (5.56x45 NATO). SKS and AK clones have plenty of parts and accessories available, but not to the extent the AR does.
Years ago, I got a great deal on three Romanian rifles, a SAR-1 in 7.62x39, a SAR-2 in 5.45x39, and a SAR-3 in .223 Remington. All were equipped with the Russian “universal” optics mounting rail on the left side of the receiver above the pistol grip. The mounting rail works great and allows the mounting of various optics without loss of zero. My SAR-2 has a K-Var mount and ATN Ultra red dot reflex sight. I can get double taps (head shots) on a full size steel silhouette at 100 meters. I like this rifle!
> Cant shoot NATO rounds.
Mine sure can. I’ve plinked nearly a thousand surplus NATO rounds through it.
That is before I lost it in the boating accident.
When one loses a weapon in a boating accident - do they file something some where?
Btw...who are the "them" ('em) in Do We Shoot 'em?
Are you an "avenging angel?" A Modern-day Danite?
How can you use M4 mags in a mini 14. Please tell me where to go and I will buy you a case of PBR.
My Ranch models are chambered for 5.56 NATO.
Question: Can you shoot 5.56 mm ammo in Ruger Mini 14?
Yes you can, the mini14 has always had a 5.56x45 chamber.
The mini14 receiver is marked “.223 CAL” not “.223 rem.”
The manual states this:
“AMMUNITION (580 series mini14 and above)
The RUGER® MINI-14® RANCH RIFLES are chambered for the .223 Remington (5.56mm) cartridge.
The Mini-14 Ranch Rifle is designed to use either standardized U.S. military, OR factory loaded sporting .223 (5.56mm) cartridges
manufactured in accordance with U.S. industry practice.”
The 180 series Mini 14 States this:
“ The Mini14 is designed to use EITHER U.S. Military, Commercial sporting, Or Other .223(5.56mm) caliber ammunition manufactured to U.S. industry standards.”
Here is the .pdfs for the 580 series and 180 series mini14s listed above for verification: 180 series: www.ruger.com/Firearms/PDF/InstructionManuals/43.pdf 580 series: www.ruger.com/Firearms/PDF/InstructionManuals/55.pdf
The above means that 5.56nato ammunition can be used safely in the rifle. The Ruger Mini-14 has a 5.56 chamber but can shoot .223 Remington ammuntion. It is a common myth that the mini14 is chambered in .223 Remington. While 5.56mm NATO ammunition is identical in external dimensions to .223 Remington, there are two important differences:
1) The chamber dimensions between the two cartridges are different. 5.56mm has a longer throat or leade (the the unrifled portion of the barrel between the end of the chamber and the beginning of the rifling). This longer throat reduces pressures as compared to the .223 Remington. Consequently, .223 Remington ammunition is loaded to a lower pressure.
2) The 5.56mm cartridge is loaded to higher pressures than the .223 Remington. Taking advantage of the longer throat, the 5.56mm can safely operate at a more powerful loading level.
Firing a 5.56mm cartridge (which is loaded to higher pressure) in a .223 Remington chambered rifle (which has a shorter throat causing a further boost in pressure), could exceed the safety margin in a .223 Remington rifle. It cannot be done with complete safety.
A .223 Remington cartridge can be safely fired in a 5.56mm chambered rifle, but NOT vice versa.
Always use safe, reliable, and quality ammunition. When buying surplus 5.56 ammo make sure you examine it closely before using it in the rifle. It is also suggested in the manual that you don’t use handloads in the mini-14. using handloads can be dangerous and will void the warranty if damage is caused as a result using improper ammunition.
Now, the next question: Will the Mini-14 hit the target?
Answer: Maybe; Sometimes; If the target is big; If the target is close; Perhaps on Tuesday; etc.
I used a dremel tool and some cheap metal m4 mags.
Hold them together and you can see where you need to grind the back of the mag down.
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