5 stages of Obamacare (Excellent)

Don Surber ^ | March 31, 2012 | Don Surber

[Olog-hai]

They’re still angry at Ronald Reagan for his testimony before the House Un-American Activities Committee 60 years ago

Only makes Joseph McCarthy seem more vindicated than ever.

[Arm_Bears]

While I want to see Obamacare (and Obama, for that matter) flushed, I fear that we are counting our chickens much, much too soon.

[freekitty]

The libs are piss ants and nothing more. They are fools who know nothing.

[M Kehoe]

Now the Supreme Court will vote 6-3 to nullify this unconstitutional attack on our liberty.

I would like this prediction to come true.

5.56mm

[LALALAW]

I practice as a healthcare regulatory attorney in a major law firm and have been engaged firsthand in many transactions and initiatives designed to implement the reform law. What is truly criminal is the billions of dollars to date that have been spent (wasted) all because of the arrogance of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Snowe and the rest of these progressive culprits. They should be ridiculed for the total disregard of the Constitution. Glad the left wing on the Court stands exposed.

[Noob1999]

Somewhere between “let Granny die a horible death” and a “free ride” for voters who do not wish, or can’t afford major medical insurance, there is truth.

I certainly hope that SCOTUS rejects this law, so as to let whatever adults are left in Congress are able to re-craft a meaningful policy that addresses this run-away health care debacle.

Responsible adults exclude Pelosi and Waxman!

[null and void]

1. Wild enthusiasm

2. Disillusionment

3. Confusion

4. Panic

5. Search for the guilty

6. Punishment of the innocent

7. Promotion of non-participants

[Mustangman]

The Supreme Court should vote Obamacare down 9-0. A 5-4 split would be silliness on such an easy decision....and this isn’t even tough. The government can just not have the power to force people into a contract, period...regardless of how much sense it might make at the time financially

There are plenty of ‘unconstitutional’ ways to address healthcare in this country but, it’s the Congress’ job to address the issue constitutionally. What’s most embarrassing is President Obama was a constitutional law teacher.

With all that said, the Congress does indeed have the constitutional power to tax us and then buy Healthcare for us as with Medicare. So, Universal Healthcare is still out there. I would much prefer to simply let the market place set the limits (and some reforms would help in this regard) as with other products but, so many folks simply get scared by this notion.

In any case, it’s never made sense to me why healthcare is provided through your employer. We should buy it like we buy car insurance. That way, if we want to cover our 30 year old son, birth control, and sex change operations, we could do just that at the local State Farm Office.....like any other product we buy. Really, insurance, like anything else, is no one dams business

In any case, Obamacare is unconstitutional and it’s back to the drawing board in my opinion.

[fortheDeclaration]

No one is counting anything too soon, if the Jurists follow the Constitution, it will be struck down.

[rawcatslyentist]

KNow the Truth about Kommie Kare. 10:29

Your blood will be boiling before a min and a half!

[Standing Wolf]

In any case, it’s never made sense to me why healthcare is provided through your employer.

That's a relic of World War II. As skilled labor became scarcer because a.) manufacturing had ramped up, and b.) most young men were in uniform, companies tried to compete for workers by offering higher salaries. The feral government wage and price controls precluded higher salaries. In time, a "compromise" was arrived at: companies could sweeten fringe benefits, and so began to offer life and health insurance.

It's a classic example of a government-caused problem made more complex with a government-proposed solution that gradually leads to more—and more and more and more—problems in due time.

You can bet your last nickel the obvious solution, removing government altogether from both insurance and medical care, is the one that won't even be considered in Washington, D.C. Letting open markets go to work on the problem would soon result in lower medical care costs, improved medical care quality, lower insurance costs, more freedom and profitability for medical care providers, and greatly reduced demand for government intervention. Do you doubt me? Look at the hardware and software computer industry, which operates in a largely open market. Every year, prices stay the same or are pushed down, quality rises, speed rises, and consumers are happier. If not for government, the same would be true of medical care and insurance.

[Mustangman]

I’m aware of how employer provided healthcare started. I just don’t understand why anyone ever thought it was a good idea. Your analysis seems very reasonable.

I fear you are right that no one will ever just turn insurance back over to the free market...including removing it from our employers.

Everything from bread to hammers to football tickets to health insurance should be set by the market place. Unfortunately, the average dude neither trusts the market place nor fears the power of an omnipresent government.

I wish I could say I was optimistic about our future but, I’m not. Even 1 Supreme Court Justice concluding that the government has the power to force the purchase of a product suggests how far we’ve fallen into the abyss. And, we’ve probably got 4 judges willing to turn complete control of our lives over to the feds...and these are supposedly ‘experts’ on our constitutional rights.

[TerriHaute]

With health-care reform either repealed or overturned, both Democrats and Republicans shy away from proposing any big changes to the health-care system for the next decade or so.

Good article. One of our Senators (R) discusses what he is doing, comments on current political events, takes questions from listeners about once a week on a local conservative talk-radio program. Recently he mentioned that Republicans from both houses of Congress have been drafting legislation that will be introduced after Obamacare is out of the way, either by SCOTUS or repeal. I am not sure why Dems and others seem to think there will be a big vacuum after Obamacare is gone. There will be legislation ready to go and some of the things it will contain are tort reform, allowing interstate purchase of insurance, uniform tax credits that are to be applied to insurance premiums, and enhanced health savings accounts. It probably won't get voted on until after the election when Reid can no longer table it, but it is in the works.

[Thank You Rush]

“”Now the Supreme Court will vote 6-3 to nullify this unconstitutional attack on our liberty. “”

Susan Estrich said tonight it will be 6-3 and liberal judges will win the day! She believes Roberts and Kennedy will be the 2 to go with the libs. She said Roberts knows they can’t get political about the decision in an election year. I wrote it down so I won’t forget. Just another hack!

[Thank You Rush]

“”companies could sweeten fringe benefits, and so began to offer life and health insurance.””

EXCEPT at that time the employers offered Major Medical only and it kept people from going to the doctors for hangnails and colds. It should have stayed that way.

[SoothingDave]

With all that said, the Congress does indeed have the constitutional power to tax us and then buy Healthcare for us as with Medicare.

Which enumerated power covers "the provision of healthcare for every inhabitant"?

[SwampFoxOfVa]

That works as long as you cover people who already are insured and have a preexisting condition like I do. Some sort of grandfathering would be necessary for those individuals.

SF

[Reddy]

Exactly. The government actually CAUSED health care to sky-rocket, then wants to “fix” it by making it worse.

I’m still in the anger stage- Angry that the Republicans had control of the House, Senate and presidency during some of the Bush years and did nothing about health care reform, instead they spent like drunken sailors.

[Reddy]

Also, you could use Lasik surgery as a prime example of a health care procedure becoming better and CHEAPER because it’s considered elective so government (and insurance) isn’t involved.

The free-market prevails every time.