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Read This First Before You Decide That Preppers Are Crazy
TEC ^ | 4-2-2012 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 04/03/2012 11:13:52 AM PDT by blam

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141 posted on 04/05/2012 1:48:55 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Uncle Ike
Bleu cheese and camembert or Brie come to mind. Several sausages are best with a coating of good mold. Most folks don't want that. I'm great with it, but I eat most everything, including durian. ;)

Your mileage may vary.

I've lived on a remote mountainside without cash income for months at a stretch, and had folks come over for dinner because the food was good. I just asked that they bring a gift of coffee, flour, salt or booze. And I sometimes provided the drinks, depending on what fruit was in season. Neighbor and I once drank 6 gallons of plum wine in a week and a half. He stopped by every evening with tobacco. ;)

/johnny

142 posted on 04/05/2012 1:56:44 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

” mold. Most folks don’t want that. I’m great with it, but I eat most everything “

A little mold doesn’t bother me, largely due to my upbringing, I guess — even with bread, I just cut the moldy part off and proceed... ;)

And, in truth, I kinda miss the hanging hard sausage and wheels of Wisconsin cheese (and, from one memorable occasion from my youth, Virginia ham) with their green coating - Good Eats!!!

By the way, the irony is not lost on me that I’m struggling to learn skills that were second-nature to my Grandmothers... ;)


143 posted on 04/05/2012 2:04:04 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: driftdiver

Psst I think it was Joseph that stored 7 years of grain.


144 posted on 04/05/2012 2:13:48 PM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: verga

You’re right of course, I had my stories confused. Doesn’t change my point.


145 posted on 04/05/2012 2:17:56 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: blam

They are not kidding about supplies getting short in the stores in a hurry. We had a rare desert snow storm and the freeway was closed off and on for just two days- stores had many empty shelves, most things that were necessary items were gone in a flash. It is not just groceries, there was a pipe breaking freeze last winter and plumbing supplies disappeared from El Paso for over a week until they caught up with demand. Anyone that doesn’t stockpile enough to at least survive short-term is really in trouble in even a minor situation.


146 posted on 04/05/2012 3:05:59 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: MrB
Those that don’t have the truth of God’s Word, and the Spirit to understand it, are truly anxious and worried and looking for something to pin that anxiety on.

Sun spots. Meteors. Peak Oil. EMP.

People of Christ, look UP, for your redemption is nigh.

Christ is the answer to that anxiety.

1 Peter 5:6-7 6 Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you, 7 casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you.

People without Christ need to look to Him as well, because when it's all said and done, everybody dies some time and then what? Being prepped is a good thing for the here and now but what about when that's over?

Eternity is a long time. People need to be ready for that as well.

I am prepped for the short term but if I'm going to survive, it's going to be God's doing and if I don't, I'll be in a way better place anyway, so it's no great loss. If someone doesn't know Christ, they really ought to be planning an hanging around as long as possible. They can use whatever of mine they find when I'm gone.

147 posted on 04/05/2012 3:12:09 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: wolfcreek

Thanks fore that link WC. I’ve been looking for a backup pump. My well is 400 ft deep.


148 posted on 04/05/2012 3:14:42 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Money cannot buy happiness, but it's more comfortable to cry in a Mercedes than on a bicycle.)
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To: MrB; MeganC
Look on the bright side. Most of those you’re referring to are simply TOO LAZY to make the trip out to your farm or ranch and steal your stuff.

Actually, the bright side is that the urban dwelling thugs and gang bangers may know how to survive in the city, but when confronted with uncontrolled nature, they don't do so well. I've seen some stunning ignorance and reactions to animals which aren't dogs or cats.

I seriously doubt many of them know how to survive in the wild that they'll have to traverse to reach many of us. This is especially true if any of this happens in the winter or colder months. When I see how many people are out driving about in weather in the teens without good warm clothing because they figure that they're only going to be out for a few minutes, I have little hope that they'd know how to make it for real.

Not to mention the number of brain dead teenagers who walk around in t-shirts and jeans when it's snowing out, claiming the whole time *It's not cold*. Well, you may be able to lie to me and lie to yourself, but the laws of physics are the laws of physics and hypothermia is hypothermia because the body loses heat at a certain rate whether they like to admit it or not.

Many of them won't survive outdoors because they've never learned to survive outdoors. Look at the survival rates of others caught outdoors even when they have been taught basic survival skills.

149 posted on 04/05/2012 3:25:52 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Paved Paradise; MrB; bgill; Kartographer
Whatever happened to “love thy neighbor?”

How ironic that you're all concerned about loving your neighbor when we know that since you're not prepping, you're going to be on the receiving end of it.

Well, what about you? How are you going to be showing love to your neighbor when the shtf? By sitting there with him starving together? By going to them and expecting them to hand out food that they've thoughtfully stored away to feed their family and give it to you instead at their expense?

By not preparing you'll be incapable of doing what you're criticizing and condemning others for not doing. You'll simply be part of the problem because you'll be depending on handouts to eat that someone else could be eating. By prepping, not only can you share what you have, but you also free up food for the others who can't/won't/didn't prep.

150 posted on 04/05/2012 3:35:56 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: patton; blam

Pressure canning meat works well.


151 posted on 04/05/2012 3:50:23 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Kartographer
I dug out my food safety class notes notebook from culinary school (1.5" binder) and in the little clear plastic pocket on the front of it, I not only found a picture of grandson baby Mikey in a diaper (who is now as tall as his mom, and has terminal nearly-teen disease), I found some old phone numbers, a short recipe, and some Bible verses that I thought were important enough back then to print out neatly and include on the front of my notebook so I could read them every day in school.

The verses were 2 Cor. 9 4-6.

Given my training by grand-dad (the preacher), verse 5 was the important one, but I was taught to give verses on both sides, and not quote out of context.

Sort of applies in this case.... 'as a matter of bounty, not of covetousness.'

/johnny

152 posted on 04/05/2012 4:23:50 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: metmom
Pressure canning meat works well.

It does... but following the instructions with the canner tend toward making the meat better for the catz than for stuff I like to make.

I use twice the recommended salt, add an acid and a sugar (I can always rinse it), always raw pack, and shorten the time.

I won't professionally recommend it officially, but those times/pressures/etc... are for worst case scenarios (like lawsuits), and not for making good meat.

I tend to use HAACP procedures at home, so I'm fairly safe, so far.

/johnny

153 posted on 04/05/2012 4:29:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: metmom; Paved Paradise

I was hoping you jump in Mom! ;-)


154 posted on 04/05/2012 4:33:36 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I just got back from a week in FL and am getting caught up.

Some parts of the country are going to be really hurting in a shtf scenario. I don’t expect much of a survival rate for some areas. They’ll be ghost towns.


155 posted on 04/05/2012 4:39:38 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: JRandomFreeper

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156 posted on 04/05/2012 4:41:06 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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bttt


157 posted on 04/05/2012 5:44:28 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Drumbo

This thread was linked in the other, but I wanted to make sure you took a gander FRiend.


158 posted on 04/06/2012 3:18:31 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: wolfcreek

Thanks for the info wolf. I’ll show the folks tonight!


159 posted on 04/06/2012 4:57:50 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: metmom

Side note, with regard to the acronym “shtf” - some have protested the vulgarity of it. Around our house, we refer to it as “the shift”. Simply enough to pronounce it “shift” if you find it offensive.


160 posted on 04/06/2012 5:13:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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