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Susan Estrich: Trayvon Martin - What Really Happened? (Surprising)
The Marietta Daily Journal ^ | April 4, 2012 | Professor Susan Estrich

Posted on 04/03/2012 10:36:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: TigersEye
No, Zimmerman was not arrested. He was detained and questioned but not arrested.

The local cops say he was arrested, and I hesitate to argue with them, since I am no longer in Jr. High.

He wasn't charged.

41 posted on 04/04/2012 3:32:36 AM PDT by Publius6961 (It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep. - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: Publius6961
The alternative interpretation is absurd. If we were to entertain the claims of the brainless mob with blood in their eyes, we would have to postulate that after shooting the "child" dead, Zimmerman then continued to break his own nose and give himself a concussion.

African Science and logic


Poor boob. That's Democrat science and logic. The ethnicity (which could be almost any color if you bothered to think about) is merely an attendant circumstance. Shame on you.
42 posted on 04/04/2012 3:33:54 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: mylife

Of course he didn’t, but where is the proof he did not disengage and Thug Trayvon pursued him?


43 posted on 04/04/2012 3:45:29 AM PDT by anton
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To: TigersEye
No, Zimmerman was not arrested. He was detained and questioned but not arrested.

Please, after all these miles of threads, learn something. If you're taken into custody by law enforcement, you are arrested. Later you may or may not be charged. Even if you're not charged, you will still have an arrest record unless you get it expunged.
44 posted on 04/04/2012 3:46:29 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One of the more reasonable opinions I’ve read/heard regarding this matter.


45 posted on 04/04/2012 3:48:25 AM PDT by alnick
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To: anton

He says “okay,” but his heavy breathing continues for about ten seconds, indicating it took him about ten seconds to stop running. The accusation that he disobeyed an order to stop following Martin was invented to explain how they came in contact with each other. When you know that Zimmerman stopped running and Martin left the area, the only logical conclusion is that Martin returned.


46 posted on 04/04/2012 3:51:59 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Bernard Marx

For all her faults, I think Estrich — as a lawyer — is honest enough to recognize situations like this where she could very easily end up representing the person who is being attacked and villified by the left. She’s a partisan on television, but I’m sure she’s a very good lawyer.


47 posted on 04/04/2012 3:58:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

New info about Zimmerman/

http://dailycaller.com/


48 posted on 04/04/2012 4:00:52 AM PDT by Atlantan
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To: Publius6961
"Being right" in this context, is NOT the after the fact definition of "right." It is the personal honest belief of the victim of an attack, at the moment, right or wrong.

I take this to mean: If someone were pointing an unloaded gun at me, and I had no way of knowing it was empty, I would be justified in using deadly force even though my life wasn't actually in danger. Because it would be reasonable to conclude my life was in danger.

49 posted on 04/04/2012 4:22:54 AM PDT by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The most notorious example of this, obviously, was the Duke lacrosse team case, where the prosecutor moved too fast, where his motives were political, where a thorough investigation would have spared not only the young men involved but also, ironically, the young woman, whose reputation was also ruined in the process.”

The young woman whose reputation was also ruined?

Is Susan stupid or what?

The whole thing started because Crystal was a shakedown artist that tried to extort more money out of those stupid boys. She’s now in jail for murdering her last boyfriend.

A little bit about Crystal’s ‘reputation’.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Mangum


50 posted on 04/04/2012 4:26:37 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: mylife

I bought a box last night - no kidding. They are packaged in many ways. Like others though, I can’t find any evidence he actually had Skittles or iced tea...and no still shot of him at the gas station....was he really just wandering around the neighborhood? Did the lawyer make up the candy run story?


51 posted on 04/04/2012 4:32:20 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: DaveTesla
What does Florida's “Stand Your Ground“ law have to do in a situation where your attacker is on top of you breaking your head open on the concrete under you?

Did Zimmerman shoot Martin while Martin was on top of him? I don't recall any reports of Zimmerman having blood on his clothes, just blood on his head from his own injuries.

52 posted on 04/04/2012 4:34:53 AM PDT by kidd
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To: FryingPan101

Re: Autopsy Report

Last I read, the autopsy report is still sealed.

My political instincts say if Martin showed no trace of drugs, someone would have leaked that to the press.

But, that’s a 100% guess.

I’ve also thought it’s possible that Martin might be positive for marijuana.

That would be a huge political black mark.

The ONLY reason Martin was in Sanford was because he got a school suspension for possession.

But, once again, just a guess.


53 posted on 04/04/2012 12:23:45 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Publius6961

You normally make a lot of sense but that post was muddier than the Mississippi. What PC? The SYG law does require that the “reasonable man” standard be applied. Estrich is saying that it doesn’t. There is no PC in my thoughts and Estrich is full of crap. Please explain what you mean.


54 posted on 04/04/2012 1:07:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

>> “This article is a hit piece on SYG laws disguised as reasonableness about the Martin/Zimmerman incident. Her apparent honesty about the law is cover for a political agenda.” <<

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That’s it in a nutshell.


55 posted on 04/04/2012 1:16:36 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Publius6961
The local cops say he was arrested, and I hesitate to argue with them, since I am no longer in Jr. High.

Please provide a link to your source for that. Shouldn't be too hard since you're not in Jr. High anymore.

Here is what the City of Sanford said...

Why was George Zimmerman not arrested the night of the shooting?

When the Sanford Police Department arrived at the scene of the incident, Mr. Zimmerman provided a statement claiming he acted in self defense which at the time was supported by physical evidence and testimony. By Florida Statute, law enforcement was PROHIBITED from making an arrest based on the facts and circumstances they had at the time. Additionally, when any police officer makes an arrest for any reason, the officer MUST swear and affirm that he/she is making the arrest in good faith and with probable cause. If the arrest is done maliciously and in bad faith, the officer and the City may be held liable.


56 posted on 04/04/2012 1:19:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: aruanan
Here is something for you to learn.
57 posted on 04/04/2012 1:22:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: BykrBayb

DO I trust the media to actually sort this out? No way. Wish I had some dough to put up an animated reconstruction based solely on the 911 calls on youtube. Every now and then I lament not being rich enough. It would be $5000 well spent.


58 posted on 04/04/2012 1:23:38 PM PDT by anton
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To: editor-surveyor

Thank you. People are quick to give Estrich the benefit of the doubt without looking at what she is really saying. She is making nice about the Martin/Zimmerman incident while making a case for more gun control and repeal of the SYG law. And she lied about SYG to do it.


59 posted on 04/04/2012 1:43:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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