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"Journalist" attempst to compare my books to the Turner Diaries
Western Rifle Shooters Association ^ | April 13, 2012 | Matt Bracken

Posted on 04/13/2012 3:36:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 9:58 AM, J.M. Berger wrote:

Dear Mr. Bracken,

My name is J.M. Berger. I’m a journalist working on a story about the EFAD trilogy for the Daily Beast. I was wondering if you’d have a few minutes to discuss the book between Thursday and Sunday via phone or email. (My deadline is Monday and I am out of the office most of today.)

I can be reached at this address or at 202-656-XXXX any time starting tomorrow morning.

Best,

J.M.

— On Thu, 4/12/12, Matt Bracken wrote:

From: Matt Bracken

Subject: Re: Media query, #EFAD

To: “J.M. Berger”

Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 8:10 AM

Sure, I can do that. It’s now 8am Thursday and I’ll be off the grid until later this afternoon, but we can set up a call for anytime after that.

Matt

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:13 AM, J.M. Berger wrote:

Any time this afternoon or after is fine with me. Just let me know, or just call when it’s convenient.

Thanks very much,

JM

— On Thu, 4/12/12, Matt Bracken wrote:

From: Matt Bracken Subject: Re: Media query, #EFADTo: “J.M. Berger”

Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 8:48 AM

If you would prefer, we can use written Q&A format. Or, you could shoot me some questions that I could consider prior to a phone interview. In any case, I’ll be out of range until later this afternoon.

Matt

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:58 AM, J.M. Berger wrote:

I’m mainly interested in understanding the role you see the book playing for the Patriot movement (entertainment or educational or inspirational, etc.), and how the book reflects (or doesn’t) your own political views.

I’d also like to talk about the inevitable comparison to “The Turner Diaries.” I didn’t think the comparison was inevitable after Book One, but it’s difficult to avoid by the end of Book Three. I’m interested in what you think of Turner, whether you set out intentionally to modify or improve on what it represents, and what role you think racial politics play in the modern Patriot movement.

JM

— On Thu, 4/12/12, Matt Bracken wrote:

From: Matt Bracken Subject: Re: Media query, #EFADTo: “J.M. Berger”

Date: Thursday, April 12, 2012, 9:20 AM

Did you actually read all three novels? Every page? I’m probably going to punt on this interview if your point is to compare my work to the racist screed the Turner Diaries.

Assuming you will say that you did read all three novels, I’m guessing you are comparing FEAT to TTD based on bad actions by black characters in and around Memphis. Do you honestly think that after major earthquakes cut off W. TN (no water, no power etc), folks will all join across racial lines to sing kumbaya? There would be no racial element? Such a plot would be laughably unrealistic and PC. And do you find the murderously evil white vigilantes in FEAT to be portrayed sympathetically? Another “Turner Diaries?” Really? And did you miss the catharsis in racial feelings by Jenny?

I mean, seriously, did you read the damn novel, or skim it, or possibly just read the excerpts on my website?

If you have not read, (I mean, really read), all three novels, then forget it. Get back to me when you have.

And in any case, forget a phone interview. I can see already how that would go, when your “notes” become written words in your essay. Been there, done that, still got the scars, pal. Submit written Q&A only is how this will go, if it goes at all. My trust-o-meter is pegging the redline. My trust in “journalists” after a few decades dealing with them is below used car salesmen and hookers. I’ve given interviews, and seen my words turned via the magical process of “notes” into damnable lies. Fool me once, etc.

Matt

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 9:45 AM, J.M. Berger wrote:

I read all three novels. These are the reasons I think it’s valid to compare and contrast:

1) Both books are predicated around revolution/resistance tied to the seizure of guns,

2) The Memphis section of the third book clearly echoes the content of the Turner Diaries. My opinion about the credibility of anything you described is entirely irrelevant to that point unless you’re arguing from a belief that black cannibalism is a realistically inevitable outcome of the breakdown of society or an unavoidable literary imperative of some kind.

3) Nevertheless, you seem to be approaching racial content in a markedly different way than Pierce. This is also a valid point for comparison and contrast, which is not the same as saying the two books are equal or equivalent.

4) Since you asked, my view is that the breakthrough that Jenny experiences is an awfully weak counterweight against the Memphis stuff. I plan on acknowledging its presence, and the other factors you included as counterweights, but I think it’s appropriate to discuss it in context. The balance in Book 3 is clearly much different from Book 1.

I can understand your wanting to clearly distinguish your book from Turner, but I frankly don’t understand your outrage over the comparison. I think it’s pretty obvious and valid why one would discuss these two books together. To acknowledge the commonalities is not to equate the books on the basis of racial politics, writing or anything else.

So for some actual questions. I’ll start with these, and if you’re still willing to continue, I will send more.

1) Did you set out to do a political book in the form of a novel, or did you set out to write a novel that simply has political elements?

2) Did you consciously set out to write something that would be a non-racist or at least less racial alternative to The Turner Diaries as a text for the Patriot movement?

3) Would you describe yourself as part of the Patriot movement or as part of some other political wave?

4) Do you feel that the Patriot movement has historically had a racist component? Do you think it needs to change in this respect? If so, why?

Thanks for considering this request.

JM

From: Matt Bracken

To: J.M. Berger

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:57 PM

Subject: Re: Media query, #EFAD

Mr Berger,

Let me take your approach for just a moment.

When did you stop beating your wife and children in drunken rages? Since we know that most journalists are drunken louts who beat their wives and kids, right?

Truthfully, most of the self-described “journalists” I have dealt with personally have been smarmy, lying SOBs, and I see you are typical of the breed.

AMF.


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To: Travis McGee

DNSIWDTDB.

(Double Naught Spy Intel Wire Domestic Terrorism Data Base.)

SO on my resume!


101 posted on 04/13/2012 6:59:38 PM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: Travis McGee

” I’ll bet in his past he’s been a Double Naught Spy, just like Jethro. “

LOL!!


102 posted on 04/13/2012 7:03:39 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Chode; Travis McGee

” “ I specialize in explaining complex subjects for ordinary readers, including business, science and technology, and terrorism”

This guy is a veritable expert in everything....not many people can claim this : )

I wonder if in his spare time, he can summarize long novels into 3 or 4 paragraphs.....like War & Peace, or The Brothers Karamazoff


103 posted on 04/13/2012 7:12:18 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Hmmmm....the plot thickens! Great catch, probably a lot more there.

Perhaps they are expecting riots from the black side, and want to have some ready evil white racist boogiemen ready to roll out as a counter balance in the MSM?


104 posted on 04/13/2012 7:15:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
“I specialize in explaining complex subjects for ordinary readers, including business, science and technology, and terrorism”

next it'll be turning water into wine...

105 posted on 04/13/2012 7:19:26 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

: )


106 posted on 04/13/2012 7:22:44 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Karamazov.....sheesh!


107 posted on 04/13/2012 7:23:51 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Travis McGee

OK now, what have you got against hookers?


108 posted on 04/13/2012 7:30:51 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Travis McGee
Perhaps they are expecting riots from the black side, and want to have some ready evil white racist boogiemen ready to roll out as a counter balance in the MSM?

That's not far fetched. The left is looking for scapegoats to keep the social justice rage up and deflect from Obama's dismal record. Grow the crisis through insinuation and outright lies, then rationalize severe measures to overcome political failure. That's how dictatorships start. Who knows, content in your books may be part of their campaign strategy template now. Bitter bible reading gun clingers, part deux. Watch your six...

109 posted on 04/13/2012 7:37:21 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Romney crowd is stinking up FR. This place needs an enema.)
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To: Travis McGee
McGee...do we really have to say it?

This is a set-up. This guy has already written his "interview" and you ain't gonna look good in it.

Proceed only if you can flip it to your advantage.
110 posted on 04/13/2012 8:14:47 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Travis McGee

Nevertheless, you seem to be APPROACHING racial content in a markedly different way than Pierce.


Liberals are mind readers. They can read a white racist between lines that are not written and between words that are not said.

Ignore this brainwashed trash.


111 posted on 04/13/2012 9:00:20 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Tainan

“Proceed”?
Clue: AMF = not proceeding.


112 posted on 04/13/2012 9:10:24 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Travis McGee

LOL I think you may have hurt their feelings


113 posted on 04/13/2012 9:10:48 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Travis McGee

LOL I think you may have hurt their feelings


114 posted on 04/13/2012 9:11:10 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Travis McGee

LOL I think you may have hurt their feelings


115 posted on 04/13/2012 9:11:24 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: paul51

Geez someone erase a couple of those


116 posted on 04/13/2012 9:12:48 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: ctdonath2
Proceed only if you can flip it to your advantage.

Read the entire sentence. Taking, and using, single words out of context makes for false conclusions.

117 posted on 04/13/2012 9:17:53 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Travis McGee
Travis/Matt,

Are your books available as epubs?

118 posted on 04/13/2012 9:46:02 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Travis McGee

“Patriot movement” reminds me of “Dominionism”. These are terms used by liberals to describe conservatives, not by conservatives to describe themselves.


119 posted on 04/13/2012 10:11:37 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: King Moonracer

Know about him. Another clueless try-to-make-money-from-the-terrorists airhead.


120 posted on 04/13/2012 10:41:48 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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To: Travis McGee

Hey Matt,
I read the turner diaries and it was not an enjoyable read, but I wanted to see what the big deal was all about, I won’t read it again. Your books are thought provoking, interesting, scary, and realistic. Can’t wait for the next installment. LOL you got a lib reporter to wet his pants!


121 posted on 04/13/2012 10:48:41 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Travis McGee
My trust in “journalists” after a few decades dealing with them is below used car salesmen and hookers.

Why Matt, I had no idea you are such a kind and understanding person.

Patient too!

I have no such outstanding, tactful and gracious social skills.

I probably would have simply emailed him a rather short response...

Ping!

.

122 posted on 04/13/2012 10:50:31 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Travis McGee; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; Flotsam_Jetsome; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; ...
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"Journalist" attempts to compare Travis McGee books to the Turner Diaries

Check out article and # 3.

Thanks, Travis McGee.

123 posted on 04/13/2012 11:12:12 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Travis McGee
I have noticed the Islamicization of the 'Civil Rights movement' pretty much coincided with the New Left (Communist) takeover of the Democrat Party. Both have been incremental conquests, and they have worked hand-in-hand, to the point that the Congressional Black Caucus is heavily packed with avowed Socialists.

Both have relied heavily on accusing detractors of "Racism", both play identity politics games while pushing their agendae.

Tying the (old) Black Panthers in with AlQaida, even as Rap Brown has aged and 'converted' to Islam is interesting. Most Black politics involved an allegedly Christian pulpit, not a Mosque, but that has changed and seems to be increasingly changing.

That Obama's alleged daddy is Muslim just connects the two further, imho, especially since his mother was a Communist, his influences were Marxist, and his upbringing included heavy Islamic elements, provided we can believe any of the fable we have been handed as to his origins. For all we know, he may be the product of a Potemin Villiage somewhere.

124 posted on 04/14/2012 12:32:36 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
If Berger doesn’t think that folks like the the NBPP would not condone or promote cannibalism, at least on a symbolic basis to tie their adherents to them by blood, especially in a crisis situation, he’s a fool.

In the 70's Sci-fi book Lucifer's Hammer by Niven and Pournelle a primarily black National Guard unit uses that strategy (cannibalism) to keep all its post meteor strike members involved and in line. So the concept isn't all that new in post-apocalyptic fiction.

125 posted on 04/14/2012 4:22:58 AM PDT by Vor Lady (Everyone should read The Importance of the Electoral College by Geo. Grant)
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To: going hot

At least with hookers, you always know goiong in that they are going to lie to you.


126 posted on 04/14/2012 5:28:19 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TADSLOS

Yes, I agree. But I don’t think Berger, small fry that he is, is part of Valerie Jarret’s White House War Room “Journ-o-list” group. That is, I don’t think Berger received orders.

I think he’s a wannabee “walk-in” to the War Room, attempting to reach out as another SPLC “domestic terrorism expert” who will blow the lid off the new white racist lit meme.

And I will be the poster boy that launches his bearded talking head onto ABCNNBCBS as a regular split-screen guest.


127 posted on 04/14/2012 5:33:36 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Tainan

I’m not proceeding with this douche, except where I threw his offered poisoned chalice back in his face and ended with “AMF.”

That is not for Adios My Friend, or Adieu Mon Frere, although it could be.


128 posted on 04/14/2012 5:39:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee; ebshumidors

I was imagining him being ejected to the sidewalk at a suitably selected Memphis street corner at around 11PM on a Friday night right after the first of the month. It would be interesting to see him encountering some real racism.


129 posted on 04/14/2012 5:41:48 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SaraJohnson
"Nevertheless, you seem to be APPROACHING racial content in a markedly different way than Pierce."

I read the "seem to be" as "you MIGHT be different than Pierce, but then again, you might be just the same.

Like you said, "journalists" are known for thier mind reading skills.

Heck, Bob Woodward specialized in no-witnesses deathbed interviews with comatose patients.

And folks on the left actually believe what he writes.

130 posted on 04/14/2012 5:42:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Yardstick

Exactly. It just shows the libtard bubble they live in, where only their definitions have any meaning.


131 posted on 04/14/2012 5:44:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: zeugma

Yes, on Kindle or any other machines that D/L the free Kindle app.


132 posted on 04/14/2012 5:45:11 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee; zeugma
"Yes, on Kindle or any other machines that D/L the free Kindle app."

I use and love the Kindle app. on my PCs. I will probably get a Kindle eventually but the app works so well I doubt if I buy a Kindle for myself it will end up being a present from my wife or Parents.

Using the Kindle app is a dream come true being I grew up watching Star Trek and was amazed someone could read a book from a computer screen. (Its the same reason I only buy flip open cell phones. I always use the Star Trek Communicator beep for my ringtone! Yes I am a nerd...)

133 posted on 04/14/2012 5:53:41 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: DuncanWaring

No matter how many times you attempt to try to explain to a Leftist that Clinton was impeached for perjury, and not for cheating on his wife, they bring back some variation of the Big Lie in the quote you presented.

They lie reflexively to support that Big Lie of the Left, and any number of others. It is who they are. They live a Big Lie.


134 posted on 04/14/2012 5:58:54 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Travis McGee

Don’t be surprised if one of the media big dogs picks up where he left off.


135 posted on 04/14/2012 6:21:33 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Romney crowd is stinking up FR. This place needs an enema.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Brilliant “connect the dots” posting. It's almost as if Obama were the intended (by fate?) result of a “wedding” between Communist America-haters, and Islamic America-haters. Sort of like Rosemary's Baby. The melding of the two great totalitarian drives in modern history. Both sides think they will be the last standing, but history proves that Islam often makes alliances like this, and then ends up devouring the ally and moving forward with the Caliphate under Sharia law. And we know what they do then with loose women (not in burqas), homosexuals, atheists etc.
136 posted on 04/14/2012 6:31:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: FreedomPoster

Yeah. Let him sing Kumbaya as he walks out of there. I’m sure that’ll work.


137 posted on 04/14/2012 6:38:05 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I have the basic $100 B&W small screen Kindle. I can’t recommend it enough. The “electric ink” uses zero energy after changing each page. A battery charge lasts literally for weeks. It’s perfect for trips, since you can have an entire library in the little machine, instead of hauling a bunch of books along. I love mine and have no intention to upgrade to a more power-hungry color Kindle Fire.


138 posted on 04/14/2012 6:40:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TADSLOS

I’ll be waiting. The next “journalist” to approach won’t be so ham-handed, I’m thinking.


139 posted on 04/14/2012 6:42:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

lol


140 posted on 04/14/2012 7:05:25 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Travis McGee

Nice smack-down, brother.

Two thumbs way, way up....


141 posted on 04/14/2012 8:05:02 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Travis McGee

In the one serious toe-to-toe dustup between the Communists and the Islamists, the Communists backed out. Of course, the Islamists had some outside help, and the home turf advantage.


142 posted on 04/14/2012 8:12:53 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Travis McGee

Regarding the issue of “cannibalism”...

Recall that a few days after Hurricane Katrina blew through New Orleans, reports started coming out that the survivors were resorting to cannibalism.

Recall also that the response to those stories generally wasn’t “That’s ridiculous”.

The concept that some groups of people can go “cannibal” is one that Mr. Berger’s cohort, and possibly Mr. Berger himself, considers, in the deep, dark, secret recesses of their minds, to be plausible.


143 posted on 04/14/2012 9:11:10 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I think by the 1980s, the Russians (still running the USSR, which was on its last legs) invaded Afghanistan for geopolitical purposes. The communist ideology wrapping the USSR was by then a transparent shell. So I wouldn't even call that war “communism vs islamism,” but just “Russia vs Afghanistan.”
144 posted on 04/14/2012 10:26:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DuncanWaring

Sure, and the groups who are least restrained by religious or cultural moral underpinnings will be the very ones who resort to it first, when they are starving.

Say, groups who consider it entertaining to sucker-punch whites on city streets, then kick them in the head until they are maimed or dead, while filming it on cell phones for later amusement.

I don’t think they are going to stay at home and quietly starve when the skittles are all gone.


145 posted on 04/14/2012 10:28:44 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

The patriot movement? Wanna bet this dufus tried the same horse hockey with Rawles?


146 posted on 04/14/2012 10:37:03 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Smokin' Joe
Here is is Twitter pic: "I'm a REALLY intense terrorism expert type journalist."

In other pics, he has a full beard and he looks a lot older.

147 posted on 04/14/2012 12:46:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DuncanWaring

(His twitter self-description. VERY serious “natsec” guy, this “specialist on homegrown extremism.”

J.M. Berger
@intelwire
HIGH-VOLUME natsec feed by J.M. Berger, specialist on homegrown extremism; author of Jihad Joe, book on US jihadists. The weed of terrorism bears bitter fruit.

Cambridge, MA · http://amzn.to/ahwBqH


148 posted on 04/14/2012 12:56:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I would have thought his views on “homegrown extremism” would have been all about Timothy McVeigh and the Aryan Brotherhood.


149 posted on 04/14/2012 1:02:52 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Smokin' Joe; CodeToad; Joe Brower

Here’s the bio from his website. No LE or Military, just “journ-o-lism” for decades back. Note the topic of his next book, and how it ties into his approach to me, in his mind. He seems to be an apologist for islam, and a real hater of “militias” etc, that old libtard boogyman, which he links directly to white racism.

http://jmberger.egoplex.com/

BIOGRAPHY

J.M. Berger has been a journalist for 25 years, working in every form of media from newspapers to New Media, radio and television. His work has appeared in The Atlantic, Foreign Policy, the CTC Sentinel, the New York Daily News and the Boston Globe, and on National Public Radio, Public Radio International and the National Geographic Channel.

In addition to working internationally as an investigative reporter studying terrorism, he is an award-winning business writer and has covered science, technology and religion. He is currently working on a book about the FBI’s infiltration of white supremacist and militia groups in the United States.

Berger consults on homegrown terrorism and online extremism. He has presented research for counterterrorism professionals such as the New York City Police Department’s Intelligence Division, New Jersey state law enforcement, the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC), the Homeland Security Policy Institute at George Washington University and more.


150 posted on 04/14/2012 1:06:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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