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George Zimmerman: Case will be won or lost in jury selection, Jose Baez says
The Orlando Sentinel ^ | April 13, 2012 | Hal Boedeker

Posted on 04/14/2012 2:41:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Some notable moments in the recent Trayvon Martin coverage:

Jose Baez, who successfully defended Casey Anthony, was analyzing the case against George Zimmerman on Friday morning for CNN. Baez was agreeing with Professor Alan Dershowitz that the prosecutors’ probable-cause affidavit is very thin. Neighborhood Watch volunteer Zimmerman has said he shot Trayvon in self-defense.

On MSNBC’s “Hardball,” Dershowitz said of the affidavit: “It’s irresponsible and unethical, and not including the material that favors the defendant, unless it’s not true. But if it’s true, as we now have learned from other information, that the grass stains are in back of Zimmerman’s shirt, that there were bruises on his head, you must put that in an affidavit. The affidavit has to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.”

Dershowitz also said that everything in the affidavit is consistent with a defense of self-defense. “A good judge will throw this out,” Dershowitz said....

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: florida; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
Choo-choo!
1 posted on 04/14/2012 2:41:37 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What is a “good judge” going to do with Al and Jesse outside the courtroom with Molotov cocktails?


2 posted on 04/14/2012 2:44:12 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Florida is a bit unique. First, lots of retirees. These means that you might have a seventy-year old guy who was a business owner for forty years and fairly smart about life on the jury. You might also have a sixty-seven year old gal whose claim to fame is that she watched every episode of Murder She Wrote and Magnum PI. Some retirees will have big issues with a overly complex prosecution case, and even bigger issues with a case that goes on past three weeks.

Then you have the Cuban angle to the jury. There’s fairly good odds that at least one Cuban will be on the jury and be fairly open to the idea of George being attacked and defending himself.

Toss in a retired military member who is fairly intelligent and sees plenty of unanswered questions which the prosecution can’t talk about.

Finally, you’ve got Floridians of various political stances that will find themselves facing other jury members who suggest to tone it down a notch.


3 posted on 04/14/2012 2:48:34 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

As a part-time Floridian, I think your analysis is quite accurate.


4 posted on 04/14/2012 2:57:04 AM PDT by Ace's Dad (Reagan Contra; in-country off the USS Racine.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“A good judge will throw this out,” Dershowitz said....

Unfortunately, good judges seem to be far and few between?
5 posted on 04/14/2012 2:57:55 AM PDT by milemark (Something brilliant, written by someone else, which I stole.)
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To: pepsionice

In some ways it’s almost a microcosm of the whole United States. When we lived there for a few years (1968-71) I attended one terrible school, one mediocre school and what was probably one of the most modern, innovative & cutting edge schools in the whole world, at that time. And they were all within five miles of one another.


6 posted on 04/14/2012 3:01:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: pepsionice

No one has mentioned the gun. is trayvons fingerprints on it? is so, where? if trayyvon tried to get the gun his fingerprints will be on it.


7 posted on 04/14/2012 3:13:02 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Getting tired of saying this. There IS NO CASE.
The is no TRIAL. This a a political dog and pony show.
It has been decided that George Zimmerman is going to jail.
How that is accomplished does not matter. If he is found
not guilty in a Florida court he will be immediately arrested by Federal officers onCivil Rights violation.


8 posted on 04/14/2012 3:16:50 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Dreyfus affair
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyfus_affair


9 posted on 04/14/2012 3:30:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The facts of the case clearly matter far less than that a Black lynch mob wants this guy convicted and there’s no sheriff in town willing to stand up to see justice is done.


10 posted on 04/14/2012 4:06:03 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer
I don't think their is enough evidence to convict period.

Did Martin buy Tea and skittles?

Witnesses

11 posted on 04/14/2012 4:08:28 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: scooby321

Sanford is too diverse to get an OJ jury. The odds an entire jury would convict is slim to none. My hope is it gets tossed at the evidentery hearing.


12 posted on 04/14/2012 4:37:31 AM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: pepsionice
A retired judge friend of mine said FL juror quality took a dive when the juror pool went from registered voters to licensed drivers. Good luck to Zman.
13 posted on 04/14/2012 4:52:37 AM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Based on the account we’ve all heard and seen there is no way this thing should ever get to trial. In fact it should be thrown out by now, UNLESS there is evidence to the contrary!


14 posted on 04/14/2012 5:05:20 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What Sharpton and the other race baiters want is a show trial with a predecided guilty verdict. Unfortunately Florida officials by delivering this ridiculous murder indictment have virtually given them this.
15 posted on 04/14/2012 5:11:00 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: sirchtruth

Believe me, he will be railroaded for racisim. I live in Memphis and know how that goes all to well. Try bouncing a black anti-death penalty State Court Judge, they holler racisim. We got the white female Penny White, but could not get Adlpho Burch because he screamed racisim, even though we had proof he was anti-DP. Same goes for US District Judge John T Nixon, very much for killing unborn babies, but extremely known for his anti-DP views, if it were not for the Dem State Senators and Reps we would have had him too, we had that much evidence of his views.

No one marched, no one protested when my 16 year old white son was murdered 4/11/89 by a white sociopath. No one did for 8 year old Ashely “Nicki” Read who was raped, strangled, murdered, and thrown into the Wolf River in 1990, she was white, just a baby and her killer was white, claimed mental disorder, jury didn’t buy it. Her killer stills sits on TN death row, with no end in site, the defense is allowed to make all the errors they want, so it can be kept ‘alive’ on appeals and coming out of the tax payers pocket, including the Victims family’s pockets. But let the AG forget to cross a I or dot a T and the case will be vacated for life with parole.

Go to Amazon and look at Murder in Memphis by Rebecca Easley, it is the true store of the murder of her sister Deborah Groseclose, whose husband hired men to rape, strangle, stab several times with a short knife and then tied up in the trunk of her car in the 100+ degree heat of Memphis where she cooked to death. Nixon vacated that death sentence to Life With parole, now they have to fight that after over 20 years of trying to get him into the death chamber. Becca was nearly killed by a driver, and she has never been the same since. Her aunt is to old to do this on her own.


16 posted on 04/14/2012 5:19:45 AM PDT by GailA (Any congress critter or president who FAILS to keep faith with the Military, WON'T keep faith with U)
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To: umgud

If this political charade goes to trial the case will BR moved to the panhandle or Ft Myers due to the publicity issue .

Secondly can someone tell me how A GOP Gov Scott and AG Pam Bondi allowed this circus by appointing this publicity hound ?


17 posted on 04/14/2012 5:31:34 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
it should have gone to a grand jury first, where it prolly would of been returned "No Bill"
18 posted on 04/14/2012 5:58:31 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: GailA
Believe me, he will be railroaded for racisim.

Considering he already has for at least the immediate future, he will have to hide if this is thrown out or he is acquitted.

19 posted on 04/14/2012 5:58:58 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A “good judge” would certainly dismiss this at an early stage. However, the “good judge” would also have to be a “non-cowardly” judge. The judge currently assigned probably recognizes that the case lacks merit, anticipates the likelihood of a dismissal being needed but fears the consequences of HER doing it. She’s already lobbying to be replaced on the case.

Good luck finding a judge who would actually do the right thing.


20 posted on 04/14/2012 6:30:25 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

Judges are powerful and influential people. I have seen first hand what happens when you threaten one. They will move heaven and earth to get you prosecuted when it involves them. Others, not so zealous about.

It would behoove the NBPP and their associated ilk to remember this. If they make threats against the judge, their will be host of LE to protect the judge.


21 posted on 04/14/2012 7:31:06 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (A Bounty on Zimmerman, Can Be A Bounty On ANYONE. No NBPP Mob Justice!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

22 posted on 04/14/2012 9:32:16 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t see how this gets passed the pre-trial.


23 posted on 04/14/2012 9:38:19 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: scooby321
I don't think their is enough evidence to convict period.

Did Martin buy Tea and skittles?

Witnesses

reportedly videotape from the 7-11 may confirm that . . .
Reportedly Zimmerman was active in a pro-black demonstration or something. And on top of that, Zimmerman is a Democrat. If the prosecutor is alleging racial animus on no more than what I heard on the 911 tape, and in the teeth of contrary evidence from the Zimmerman’s past, it would take a very biased, and or very scared, jury to buy that.

Right in the teeth of his indictment, I would see Zimmerman suing NBC - indeed, all of journalism, embodied in the Associated Press - over the biased reporting of this case which has made it a cause, endangering peoples’ lives. He would IMHO have a case against NBC even if he is ultimately found culpable in the shooting of Trevon Martin.


24 posted on 04/14/2012 11:49:10 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA; 2ndDivisionVet
It has been decided that George Zimmerman is going to jail.

Yes. At this point, I think what's happened is that Angela Corey intentionally overcharged Zimmerman with Second Degree Murder (which is unethical for a prosecutor) as leverage to get him to plead to a lesser charge.

All of the sweetness displayed by Zimmerman's new attorney, Mark O'Mara, toward Corey (rather than attacking the political nature of the charge, or beginning to lay out his client's defense in public) suggests those conversations may already be taking place, in my fleeting current opinion . . .

25 posted on 04/14/2012 2:03:29 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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