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Why America is Devolving Towards Absolute Government Control
Canada Free Press ^ | Sunday, April 15, 2012 | Kelly OConnell

Posted on 04/15/2012 8:03:57 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican

The relentless encroachment of socialism upon America’s economic, cultural and governmental landscape is like a bad dream to most red-blooded Americans. When society changes it can seem like the ineluctable drift of evolution or chance. But in the case of America’s ongoing continued expansion of government powers, spiking taxes, and shrinking military, it’s all part of a planned elitist push into socialism. And one need not believe in secret conspiracies when contemplating this shift. In fact, for those paying attention, it was all outlined long ago by the Fabian Socialist society, and other groups such as the Frankfurt School, as explained below.

I. Basic Socialism: History & Dogma

Socialism is a European phenomenon, beginning after the French Revolution with writers from Paris and London forming the core. The definition of socialism is: “a centrally planned economy in which the government controls all means of production.” While most believe Karl Marx (1818-1883) was the father of socialism, he wrote very few specifics on the topic. In fact, one of Marx’s most signal shortcoming was his failure to describe his own working economic system. Instead, it was Vladimir Lenin (1870-1924), first leader of the new USSR who developed the theory in situ, according to the Library of Economics & Liberty. Lenin’s attempts at creating a profit-free economy was a spectacular failure, only bettered by Joseph Stalin’s larger failure.

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A. Vladimir Lenin’s ad hoc Socialism

The Library lists Vlad’s four critical factors he believed necessary for economic success: Lenin began from the long-standing delusion that economic organization would become less complex once the profit drive and the market mechanism had been dispensed with—“as self-evident,” he wrote, as “the extraordinarily simple operations of watching, recording, and issuing receipts, within the reach of anybody who can read and write and knows the first four rules of arithmetic.” The four laws were apparently insufficient to drive en economy towards productivity: In fact, Soviet economic life under these first four rules was so disheveled within four years of the 1917 revolution, productivity fell to 14% of its pre-revolutionary level. By 1921 Lenin was forced to institute the New Economic Policy (NEP), a partial return to the market incentives of capitalism. This brief mixture of socialism and capitalism ended in 1927 after Stalin instituted forced collectivization meant to mobilize Russian resources for its leap into industrial power. Suffice it to say that no version of socialism has ever provided longterm economic growth or security anywhere in the world, because it lacks a cohesive economic theory.

B. Karl Marx’s Vision: Revolution

Karl Marx claimed to have discovered a “science” of economics that proved his ideas true. In fact, according to author Paul Johnson in Intellectuals, Marx was a moralizing journalist, with the faculty of a poet, masquerading as a science-minded intellectual. Writes Johnson: But in a deeper sense he was not really a scholar and not a scientist at all. He was not interested in finding the truth but in proclaiming it.

There were three strands in Marx: the poet, the journalist and the moralist. Each was important. Together, and in combination with his enormous will, they made him a formidable writer and seer. But there was nothing scientific about him; indeed, in all that matters he was anti-scientific.

Further, according to Marx’s writing partner, lifelong benefactor and friend, Frederick Engels, Marx should be remembered as a revolutionary. He said grave-side at Marx’s burial: For Marx was before all else a revolutionist. His real mission in life was to contribute, in one way or another, to the overthrow of capitalist society and of the state institutions which it had brought into being… So Marx’s main interest in writing was to foment revolution, because without the collapse of capitalism, the promised paradise of total government control would never have room to occur. Knowing this, American leftists have long done whatever they could, in small and large ways to help birth the revolution upon American soil. The following is a partial history of that struggle.

II. Congressional Record January 10, 1963 On January 10, 1963, Florida US Representative Albert Sydney Herlong, Jr gave a speech outlining what he believed to be the 45 methods communists were using to take over America. Ponder the staggering number of these goals already achieved, much to our mortal damage.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. 15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Control schools. Use them to transmit socialist & Marxist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Infiltrate teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks. 20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Discredit American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression.
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. Promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
27. Infiltrate churches. Replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit Bible & emphasize need for intellectual maturity, rejecting a “religious crutch.”
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
29. Discredit US Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
31. Belittle American culture & discourage teaching of American history because it’s only part of the “big picture.”
32. Support any socialist movement to centralize control over any part of the culture: education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

III. Frankfurt School The Frankfurt School were a group of German intellectual Marxists who established the Institute of Social Research at Frankfurt University, modeled after the Marx-Engels Institute in Moscow. This became known as the “Frankfurt School.” After Hitler came to power, these Marxist professors fled to the West to preserve their lives. Setting up shop in Columbia University, they decided to launch a mission to convert America to Marxism via a soft war. According to one source they did certain things to aid this: To further the advance of their ‘quiet’ cultural revolution - but giving us no ideas about their plans for the future - the Frankfurt School recommended (among other things):

1.The creation of racism offences.
2.Continual change to create confusion
3.The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4.The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority
5.Huge immigration to destroy identity.
6.The promotion of excessive drinking
7.Emptying of churches
8.An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
9.Dependency on the state or state benefits
10.Control and dumbing down of media
11.Encouraging the breakdown of the family

A main idea of the Frankfurt School was exploiting Freud’s ‘pansexualism’ - the search for pleasure, the exploitation of the differences between the sexes, the overthrowing of traditional relationships between men and women. To further their aims they would: •attack the authority of the father, deny the specific roles of father and mother, and wrest away from families their rights as primary educators of their children. •abolish differences in the education of boys and girls •abolish all forms of male dominance - hence the presence of women in the armed forces •declare women to be an ‘oppressed class’ and men as ‘oppressors’ Munzenberg summed up the Frankfurt School’s long-term operation thus: ‘We will make the West so corrupt that it stinks.’

IV. Fabian Society: Slow Conquering Socialism

The Fabian Society of Britain was named after Roman general Fabius Maximus, famed for a warfare style that eked out victories via patience and attrition. Fabian socialists likewise seek to take over their host countries by slowly changing standards until the dumbed-down populace no longer has the wit to notice or care. A sociological analogy might be—how predators groom their victims, often waiting years for a chance to exploit their prey. An author sums up their strategy: Like their namesake, today’s Fabians avoid open confrontation with the forces of freedom and, subsequently, tend to shield their true agenda from the light of day. The creed of the Society, written in 1887, was as follows: “It (The Fabian Society) therefore aims at the reorganization of society by the emancipation of land and industrial Capital from individual and class ownership…The Society accordingly works for the extinction of private property in land.” The Fabian plan was to infiltrate America by targeting our legal system. Fabian convert Felix Cohen, a law professor at Yale, wrote the following: “It is possible to attempt the overthrow of capitalism as an economic system without at the same time attacking the substance of capitalist law…Socialists can learn from their adversaries that it is always possible to attack existing law, in the name of democracy, justice, and liberty, in the name of the great ideals of the American Constitution, and in the name of law itself.” Fabians sought to overthrow our system by changing the meaning of our stated legal concepts, and to codify those changes with cases brought by Fabian lawyers before Fabian Judges. The effect of this has been that while the technical wording of American law hasn’t changed much, the implementation has been transferred from the citizen and his elected representatives, to appointed bureaucrats. The Fabians have, diabolically, used our own laws to change the law. Freedom is the victim of these Socialist manipulations. Conclusion America is infiltrated by Marxists active so long in undermining our institutions and ideals that socialism is now in our collective DNA. They seek an end to private property, representative democracy and rule of law. But once America has turned over leadership to committed liberals, who will be left to protect the world from takeover by globalists intent on universal tyranny? Unfortunately, the question answers itself.

1 posted on 04/15/2012 8:04:03 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican
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To: ProgressingAmerica

ping


2 posted on 04/15/2012 8:04:48 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

This election is the most important election in our lifetimes. If Obama is defeated for reelection, we have a chance to survive.


3 posted on 04/15/2012 8:05:38 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A liberal's compassion is limited to the size of other peoples' paychecks)
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To: Clintonfatigued

A second term of Obama will bring us to CW2. If that is what some prefer - god help us.


4 posted on 04/15/2012 8:06:52 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Clintonfatigued
This election is the most important election in our lifetimes. If Obama is defeated for reelection, we have a chance to survive.

If Romney is the nominee, there isn't a chance in hell that Obama will be defeated.
5 posted on 04/15/2012 8:08:03 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Yeah but, who’s winning American Idol and Dancing with the Starz in between commercials for Viagra and sleeping pills?


6 posted on 04/15/2012 8:16:14 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Obama been laudin’ that martial law.


7 posted on 04/15/2012 8:17:39 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SoConPubbie

If Romney is the nominee, there isn’t a chance in hell that Obama will be defeated.


Yep, when we need a solid conservative the most. This is all very depressing.

We need someone who would make Ronald Reagan blush.


8 posted on 04/15/2012 8:20:40 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: GlockThe Vote

We need to not vote for socialists like Obama. You don’t fight socialism by electing socialists


9 posted on 04/15/2012 8:24:19 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: unkus

At this point, we’d settle for someone who is at least right of center.


10 posted on 04/15/2012 8:25:17 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican
"Again, Christianity asserts that every individual human being is going to live forever, and this must be either true or false. Now there are a good many things which would not be worth bothering about if I were going to live only seventy years, but which I had better bother about very seriously if I am going to live forever...And immortality makes this other difference, which, by the by, has a connection with the difference between totalitarianism and democracy. If individuals live only seventy years, then a state, or a nation, or a civilisation, which may last for a thousand years, is more important than an individual. But if Christianity is true, then the individual is not only more important but incomparably more important, for he is everlasting and the life of a state or a civilisation, compared with his, is only a moment.

~ C.S. Lewis - Mere Christianity
11 posted on 04/15/2012 8:26:06 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: GeronL

At this point, we’d settle for someone who is at least right of center.


We’re in a terrible situation.

If obama is re-elected, he’ll really go to work without any constraints.


12 posted on 04/15/2012 8:28:59 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

[seek to take over their host countries by slowly changing standards until the dumbed-down populace no longer has the wit to notice or care.]

Who needs wit when Fearless Leader has the McPigeons trained to believe they're entitled to a slice of "Free" government bread on every plate and a circus on every Big Screen TV?

 

Where's my PIE?

 


13 posted on 04/15/2012 8:30:35 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Another bit of Lewis wisdom appropriate for today in America:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C. S. Lewis

14 posted on 04/15/2012 8:35:14 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: OneLoyalAmerican
an alternative headline would be, “Why Canada Free Press is hyperbolic nonsense”
15 posted on 04/15/2012 8:36:21 PM PDT by Porterville (Methink'st thou art a general offence and every man should beat thee.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican
Well, Gosh Oh Golly Gee!
After 100+ years of electing progressives, socialist and liberals (with 2 maybe 3 exceptions) to the Presidency and stacking the Congress with progressives, socialists, liberals and communists, it just may be too late.
The voters in this country have proved the old definition of idiocy. Keep doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result. A progressive Republican ain't' no different than a Democrat progressive. But by God, we keep voting them in.
16 posted on 04/15/2012 8:40:16 PM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Scary and too true.


17 posted on 04/15/2012 8:42:43 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: Tupelo

Exactly...and that right there is the very heart of the matter.


18 posted on 04/15/2012 8:47:29 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood)
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To: GeronL
At this point, we’d settle for someone who is at least right of center.

And that ain't Romney! What we get with Romney is a little right of Obambi, which would be equivalent to a little right of Stalin.

19 posted on 04/15/2012 8:53:13 PM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: Conservative_Rob

A little to the right of Stalin is that guy who kept getting airbrushed from the history books right??


21 posted on 04/15/2012 8:57:35 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: unkus

We need someone who would make Ronald Reagan blush.<<<

Yup!...There’s one and only ONE on the horizon.....and shes so perfect for it, both sides are scared to death of her...SARAH PALIN!!

Dont believe me?...watch the answers to my post!!!!....lol


22 posted on 04/15/2012 8:59:55 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

The current host of C2C is a liberal, but that doesn’t matter to the leftist agitators.

The local station has dropped C2C here in DFW. They replaced it with the boring John Batchelor show, which will follow the boring John Batchelor show..... 8 freaking hours of boring John Batchelor????

jeesh


23 posted on 04/15/2012 8:59:55 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Tupelo

The frog has been boiled and the producers are outnumbered by the moochers and looters. We are in for a very bumpy ride. Who is John Galt?


24 posted on 04/15/2012 9:01:27 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: unkus

“We’re in a terrible situation.
If obama is re-elected, he’ll really go to work without any constraints.
__________________________________________________

It has always been my contention that the reelection of
Obama will be the end of America.
Every FReeper should have a plan of escape from the new USSA.


25 posted on 04/15/2012 9:04:40 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Joe 6-pack

I don’t buy into a belief that the state is more important than the individual and neither did the Founding Fathers of the USA although there are nations founded on the concept of a most powerful government, think Russia among others.It is the character of a nation’s people that establishes the character of the nation. Our Founders certainly recognized the source of all worthy character for humans and the nation as being the Creator of such.


26 posted on 04/15/2012 9:08:13 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: SoConPubbie
Romney is going to be the nominee. Conservatives were not able to put up a substantive candidate and Romney had the most friends, the most money, and by far the best hair. He had no trouble with Caine and Gingrich, who self destructed. Santorum had better staying power, but wasn't doing very well in his home state and gave up to preserve his future.
Let wait and see how Romney reacts to the leftist establishment when they get cranked up. This first round about his wife never working was a definite win for Romney.
27 posted on 04/15/2012 9:08:27 PM PDT by BRK
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To: GeronL
Sometimes Bachelor's co-host is Gordon Chang, Forbes. Chang know about Red China and things Asia. He's a realist about what's going on in Red China. Things are heating up and Chang knows about it. Revolution? I hope so.

Let the Maoists take over and close the Bamboo Curtain and put all those useful idiot (Lenin's name for them) American corporations on a slow boat to America, penniless; and NO TARP for them when the get here! I like it.

Otherwise.. I don't usually listen.

28 posted on 04/15/2012 9:11:36 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: M-cubed

I agree with you. Maybe we’ll have a miracle. She would energize the country like no one has ever done it.


29 posted on 04/15/2012 9:12:27 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: AlexW

Chile or Panama come to mind. A friend of mine is moving to Chile.


30 posted on 04/15/2012 9:14:27 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: BRK
Let wait and see how Romney reacts to the leftist establishment when they get cranked up. This first round about his wife never working was a definite win for Romney.

That first round wasn't even a round.

The Media and Obama haven't even broken a sweat yet.

Once they get a hold of his record and start attacking him about his hypocrisy on all conservative issues, he is toast!


31 posted on 04/15/2012 9:14:59 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Your endorsement of Chang is better than mentioning he works for Forbes. Believe me.
32 posted on 04/15/2012 9:15:10 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Porterville
Greetings Porterville:

Why Canada Free Press is hyperbolic nonsense

Interesting perspective. What was grossly exaggerated?

Cheers,
OLA

33 posted on 04/15/2012 9:15:10 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: GeronL

“The local station has dropped C2C here in DFW.”
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On rare occasion, Kook to Kook has someone interesting, but sitting through hours of ET and mystic Kooks does get boring.
I see that tonight’s show might have something listenable.

I get it online at 1 PM my time, but it can be recorded while you sleep via Dar.fm
That is how I listen to Rush, who is on live when I am asleep.


34 posted on 04/15/2012 9:15:32 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

“When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal not in goods, but in favors; when you see that men get rich more easily by graft than by work, and your laws no longer protect you against them, but protect them against you, you may know that your society is doomed.” Ayn Rand


35 posted on 04/15/2012 9:17:10 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

None of this really is important. If you want to know the answer, go to various FreeRepublic threads and you will see that even people who think they are very conservative want the government to step in when it suits their taste.

Ultimately, until more people learn that government is not the solution to every problem, that often the government makes things worse, often the government can not solve a problem, government will continue to grow. But in thread after thread even here, you see people demanding more government.


36 posted on 04/15/2012 9:18:36 PM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: unkus

“Chile or Panama come to mind. A friend of mine is moving to Chile.”
______________________________________________

One site that concentrates on Central and South America is:
http://internationalliving.com/

Another site is:
http://www.escapefromamerica.com/


37 posted on 04/15/2012 9:19:40 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

Thank you!


38 posted on 04/15/2012 9:21:54 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: JLS
Greetings JLS:

...people who think they are very conservative want the government to step in when it suits their taste. < snip > But in thread after thread even here, you see people demanding more government.

Your points are good. While not knowing what's truly on the minds of those posters, good conservatives point out their error in ways. If they simply ignorant but sincere, they learn.

Cheers,
OLA

39 posted on 04/15/2012 9:28:04 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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I have to be fair to C2C though IMO it is a serious problem them influencing apolitical listeners by going easy on Obama.. but not Republican Bush.

The cancellation of Obama-critic Sharon Sebastian due to lefty protesters may not have been Noory's decision.

The new Saturday night host John Wells just may go where no C2C man has been before. He has actually mentioned Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio. If his guests get cancelled then to me that is proof that it's coming from corp. or producer Tom Danheiser who won't answer my emails either.

If it's a close election these "nonpartisan" shows' influence on apolitical voters could literally make Obama the winner.

40 posted on 04/15/2012 9:41:46 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SoConPubbie
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41 posted on 04/15/2012 9:42:22 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: OneLoyalAmerican
Thank you..........

8:}

42 posted on 04/15/2012 9:45:47 PM PDT by AwesomePossum (I have never looked this forward to a November II........)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

I think it is the knee jerk reaction of all. We see something we don’t like and we want to collectively put a stop to it. That is how government grows.

I saw today tweets on about SF story on a Hustler mobile stripper van being parked in some neighborhood. Few would like that next to their house and of course the reaction is more government. But that is how government gets bigger and bigger and bigger and how we get more and more and more laws on minute issues.


43 posted on 04/15/2012 9:46:23 PM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

Slight nit to pick, devolve does not mean to de-evolve.


44 posted on 04/15/2012 10:03:43 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: unkus

Canada is my home country which i love but just the same i’ll be sticking around to fight for America which i love to no end.


45 posted on 04/15/2012 10:07:42 PM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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To: JLS

None of this really is important. If you want to know the answer, go to various FreeRepublic threads and you will see that even people who think they are very conservative want the government to step in when it suits their taste.

Ultimately, until more people learn that government is not the solution to every problem, that often the government makes things worse, often the government can not solve a problem, government will continue to grow. But in thread after thread even here, you see people demanding more government.


Terrific post and it should be read twice.


46 posted on 04/15/2012 10:09:56 PM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids can pay for it!)
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To: Paradox; OneLoyalAmerican

de·volve (d-vlv)
v. de·volved, de·volv·ing, de·volves
v.tr.
1. To pass on or delegate to another: The senator devolved the duties of office upon a group of aides.
2. Archaic To cause to roll onward or downward.
v.intr.
1. To be passed on or transferred to another: The burden of proof devolved upon the defendant. The estate devolved to an unlikely heir.
2. To degenerate or deteriorate gradually: After several hours the discussion had devolved into a shouting match.
3. Archaic To roll onward or downward.


47 posted on 04/15/2012 10:10:13 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Paradox

Greetings Paradox:

Although English shouldn’t be my first language, guessing the author chose the intransitive verb definition: Change gradually for the worse; decline; deteriorate.

Cheers,
OLA


48 posted on 04/15/2012 10:10:33 PM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: loveliberty2

This bit of timely wisdom from C.S. Lewis really sums up where we are at in these troubling times.


49 posted on 04/15/2012 10:17:41 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: unkus

“Chile or Panama come to mind. A friend of mine is moving to Chile.”

My thought is make the traitors move...this is our country.


50 posted on 04/15/2012 10:26:52 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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