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Chris Matthews: Slavery Impacts People's View of the Trayvon Martin-George Zimmerman Case
NewsBusters ^ | April 20, 2012 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 04/20/2012 4:47:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe it's time for MSNBC's Chris Matthews to retire.

On Friday's Hardball, the 66-year-old host actually said that people's view of the Trayvon Martin-George Zimmerman case is impacted by "so much history ever since the first slave arrived in the United States" (video follows with transcribed highlights and commentary):

(VIDEO AT LINK)

In the middle of a lengthy opening segment about the case gripping the nation, Matthews played a clip of Florida prosecutor Bernie De La Rionda telling a press conference, “You haven’t heard all the evidence. Please be patient and wait for the trial.”

After the clip, Matthews said, “Well, this is so tricky here, Joy-Ann, and I don’t know how we’re going to cover this. I’m going to try to do it with the presumption of innocence as we do in all cases.”

Isn’t that nice of Matthews to "try" to cover this case “with the presumption of innocence?” You'd think that after decades in the business, it wouldn't be too difficult to presume the innocence of the accused when reporting on a murder trial.

For her part, Joy-Ann Reid of The Grio responded, “The bottom line here is that this case has already been litigated and relitigated on Twitter, online, on blogs. Everyone feels that they too are prosecuting this case and people have taken a side. And I think that raises a lot of troubling questions really about jury selection. Is the entire jury pool in the country tainted and can Zimmerman get a fair trial?”

Actually, the taint is on the Left not the Right.

It’s the folks on the left that have already convicted Zimmerman and are just awaiting sentencing. That’s how atrocious the reporting has been by much of the liberal media.

By contrast, the Right’s position is and has been that Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty and that none of us has seen all the evidence to render a judgment. That will come out in the trial.

With this in mind, I think Reid was projecting the short-comings and failings of her side in this debate onto those that have acted far more responsibly.

But fasten your seatbelts, for Matthews’ response was startling.

“What scares me if we could all watch the picture, like a movie, a tape of everything that happened that night, from the beginning to the end, I think there would be difference of attitudes about guilt and innocence. That’s what scares me about this case, there’s so many different perspectives, so much history ever since the first slave arrived in the United States. The attitude of history here, you can’t push it aside I don’t think.”

What? So whenever a crime is committed against a black person by someone other than a black person, the “history ever since the first slave arrived in the United States” is a factor?

Shouldn't the only factor be the evidence presented by the prosecution and the defense with total disregard to the color of these folks' skin or something that was outlawed centuries ago in this country?

It's been almost 150 years since the Emancipation Proclamation, and almost 50 years since the last Civil Rights Act, and slavery is still a part of our criminal justice system?

How sad that in the year 2012, a so-called newscaster on a so-called news network thinks this.

It seems a metaphysical certitude racism will never end in this country as long as people like Matthews bring slavery into every mixed race incident.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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I sure hope I'm never part of a left-wing cause célèbre where you are tried on TV, the Internet and in the newspapers before a judge and jury ever see any evidence.
1 posted on 04/20/2012 4:48:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FACT: Most African-Americans ancestors came to America AFTER slavery ended.


2 posted on 04/20/2012 4:49:24 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"so much history ever since the first slave arrived in the United States"

Chris Matthews would have a nervous breakdown if he ever did a little research into Anthony Johnson.
3 posted on 04/20/2012 4:51:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, because I was a slave so recently it still burns in my mind and is reflected in everything I do.


4 posted on 04/20/2012 4:53:09 PM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: GeronL

And slavery has not been legal in this country for over 147 years. Get over it.


5 posted on 04/20/2012 4:53:22 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’re gonna milk this forever - or at least until November.


6 posted on 04/20/2012 4:53:35 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: doc1019

Maybe not fact... maybe I just heard that once.. :p


7 posted on 04/20/2012 4:54:14 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Chris Matthews: Slavery Impacts People's View of the Trayvon Martin-George Zimmerman Case

Not mine, Skippy.
There is not a single survivor of slavery I can think of, nor a survivor of that last slave left alive to punish.

Perhaps psychiatric help might clear that up for you?

8 posted on 04/20/2012 4:54:18 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("It's easy to make promises you can't keep" - B.H.Obama Feb 23, 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The loss to the family notwithstanding, Trayvon’s haughty Obama eyes strike me as being a little boy meme brat scheme that, unfortunately, attracts the victimology of our legal and media system which relies for ratings on their munchausen syndrome by proxy.

So, Chrissy the self hating hater brings up the hate and the self hate about slavery, only because nowadays it is cool to be like Zero, ie. to cover up one’s stpuidity, debauchery and ignorance with hate desguised behind honeyed words full of snake poison.


9 posted on 04/20/2012 4:55:26 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: GeronL

LOL!


10 posted on 04/20/2012 4:55:53 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sissy is so deranged.


11 posted on 04/20/2012 4:56:06 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: doc1019

Judging from some leftwing idiots, slavery ended about 38 days ago or something


12 posted on 04/20/2012 4:56:56 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Libloather
They’re gonna milk this forever - or at least until November.

Bingo!

13 posted on 04/20/2012 4:58:14 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Publius6961
There is not a single survivor of slavery I can think of, nor a survivor of that last slave left alive to punish.

You mean, "that last slaveholder left alive"? Well, there are many thousands of slaves right now in the U.S., just not from the era of the slave-holding American South. And there are more slaves alive in the world now than at any time in history.
14 posted on 04/20/2012 4:58:32 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, its true.

My own ancestors centuries LONG history as downtrodden European peasants, affects EACH and EVERY aspect of my current life here in 2012.

What 15 seconds has gone by? Time to sulk over it again.....


15 posted on 04/20/2012 4:58:51 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Shouldn't the only factor be the evidence presented by the prosecution and the defense with total disregard to the color of these folks' skin or something that was outlawed centuries ago in this country?

Well duh! Ever look at a statue of Justice...She wears a blindfold. Can't see color of skin, age, prosperity...Is he just figuring it out?

16 posted on 04/20/2012 4:59:09 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thomas Jeffersons fault.


17 posted on 04/20/2012 5:00:23 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“so much history ever since the first slave arrived in the United States” ........................................... 1620? They were white folks, called indenture servants, no? My wife’s family has been here since 1637, my guess is she too is a descendant of slaves. My descendents were probably slaves in Rome. Time to get over it.


18 posted on 04/20/2012 5:00:51 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO WE ELECT AS PRESIDENT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT.)
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To: GeronL

DOn’t forget that there were free black people in this country before the Revolutionary War and that the first owner of a slave (according to Beck) was himself black.


19 posted on 04/20/2012 5:01:31 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Name one person who remembers slavery.


20 posted on 04/20/2012 5:01:35 PM PDT by bgill
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To: GeronL

Eliza Moore (1843 - January 21, 1948) was the last proven African-American slave. Eliza was said to have been born a slave in Montgomery County, Alabama in 1843. She died at the age of 105 on January 21, 1948 in Montgomery County, Alabama.

So the oldest black slave DIED 64 years ago and it was likely twice that since she could have given birth.

Thus, no current American’s mother or grandmother was a slave.

My great grandmother was a Native American Indian who had her land robbed by the U.S. government. My only connection is my great skin tone and easy ability to tan.


21 posted on 04/20/2012 5:05:31 PM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: bgill
Name one person who remembers slavery.

Blacks who vote Democratic

22 posted on 04/20/2012 5:05:52 PM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: GeronL

I don’t think slavery ended; it was transferred.


23 posted on 04/20/2012 5:06:12 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (A Bounty on Zimmerman, Can Be A Bounty On ANYONE. No NBPP Mob Justice!)
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To: Libloather
They’re gonna milk this forever - or at least until November.

No, they are going to milk it forever, regardless what happens in November.

24 posted on 04/20/2012 5:06:38 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There isn’t a black in America who is or was a slave. And neither were their parents. Stop using slavery as an excuse and get your butt moving. It’s called a work ethic..whether in a factory or in school.


25 posted on 04/20/2012 5:06:39 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: bgill

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2874657/posts?page=21#21


26 posted on 04/20/2012 5:06:45 PM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: hoosiermama

Anthony Johnson came to the colonies as an indentured servant from Angola. When his contract was paid he was given a farm and contracted an indentured servant for himself.

A fire on Johnson’s farm destroyed the record of the contract with his indentured servant and Johnson refused to release the man. The case went to court and the court found in favor of Johnson who declared that the indentured servant’s debt could never be paid off. True slavery in America was born.


27 posted on 04/20/2012 5:09:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

“My descendents were probably slaves in Rome. “
“Ancestors” like yours, like mine! I hope your descendants are never slaves.

I’m not a Grammer Nazi, really I’m not! :^}


28 posted on 04/20/2012 5:10:26 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO)
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To: aruanan

http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm


29 posted on 04/20/2012 5:11:28 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: aruanan
Well, yes.
Thank you for that correction.
30 posted on 04/20/2012 5:11:36 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("It's easy to make promises you can't keep" - B.H.Obama Feb 23, 2012)
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To: Molon Labbie

They replaced segregation with welfare, a masterstroke, the victims even give them their votes


31 posted on 04/20/2012 5:12:13 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs -- partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs...

There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who do not want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public."

~ Booker T. Washington (1856-1915.) ~
Educator, Author, Civil Rights Leader

32 posted on 04/20/2012 5:13:11 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: TSgt

bump


33 posted on 04/20/2012 5:13:22 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet. The tingle down his leg impacts his view of everything.


34 posted on 04/20/2012 5:13:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: aruanan
Well, there are many thousands of slaves right now in the U.S., just not from the era of the slave-holding American South.

How is it possible that they are both in the U.S. now, and still slaves from elsewhere?

Unless you are referring to embassies from koranimal countries like Saudi Arabia.

35 posted on 04/20/2012 5:15:00 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("It's easy to make promises you can't keep" - B.H.Obama Feb 23, 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As leaders of the white tribe, we must offer up Chrissy as a blood sacrifice to the forever offended Black tribe and it’s angry gods. There will be another offering next week. Don’t laugh, Rachel and Keith.


36 posted on 04/20/2012 5:15:42 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: cripplecreek

So the first liberal/slave evolved.


37 posted on 04/20/2012 5:16:10 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Caipirabob
Yes, because I was a slave so recently it still burns in my mind and is reflected in everything I do.

We were all slaves at some point, unless someone claims having an uninterrupted line of Egyptian Pharaohs and European Kings as his predecessors.

38 posted on 04/20/2012 5:17:24 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: bgill
Name one person who remembers slavery.

Bill Clinton.
He remembers walking by burning black churches in the South, while marching barefoot with MLK...

39 posted on 04/20/2012 5:17:29 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("It's easy to make promises you can't keep" - B.H.Obama Feb 23, 2012)
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To: GeronL

Thank the Kennedys for that.


40 posted on 04/20/2012 5:18:29 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Show that scumbag these videos and ask him if living in areas like these have anything at all to do with what happened and how people are beginning to feel about these unbridalled murdering sociapathic bastards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Wcto03dOQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jsX0OYhO0A&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkfbh9fTjsk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM8gfrxQlMo&feature=BFa&list=UUL1uxjHTP1rpF6DRLrVZjeQ&lf=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e52-Vx5PMCQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvPMv0TKNII&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZABR2ZVIII&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOawlnp6ICA&feature=related


41 posted on 04/20/2012 5:19:01 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. " -Jesus)
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To: Publius6961
Well, there are many thousands of slaves right now in the U.S., just not from the era of the slave-holding American South.

How is it possible that they are both in the U.S. now, and still slaves from elsewhere?


Read more carefully. I said there were many thousands of slaves in the U.S. right now, but they are not from the era of slave-holding American South. They are imported from all over the world to do a variety of things. There are also many slaves in many other countries around the world. How do you see any conflict between there being slaves in the U.S. now as well as slaves abroad?
42 posted on 04/20/2012 5:19:20 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: cripplecreek

LOL I was thinking the same thing.


43 posted on 04/20/2012 5:19:48 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: TSgt
Eliza Moore (1843 - January 21, 1948) was the last proven African-American slave.

And had she not been a maltreated slave, she might have lived to be 135!

44 posted on 04/20/2012 5:20:31 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("It's easy to make promises you can't keep" - B.H.Obama Feb 23, 2012)
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To: aruanan
They are imported from all over the world to do a variety of things.

Really?
I am always open to learning new facts about my country.
Do you have any links or references?

I had no clue. Legal slaves in 2012. Here.

45 posted on 04/20/2012 5:28:30 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("It's easy to make promises you can't keep" - B.H.Obama Feb 23, 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The judge authorizes bond for Zimmerman, it was known they probably would, but not before they film Zimmerman paraded around locked in waist chains. The circus side show at the monkey trial.


46 posted on 04/20/2012 5:36:54 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s see, Muslims sold Blacks into slavery and Democrats in the South kept them there.


47 posted on 04/20/2012 5:41:22 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
While the Zimmerman/Martin ‘white’ on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by a gang of feral blacks in Oklahoma just a few weeks ago?

The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.

The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.

Can you just imagine the pain, the humiliation, the horror that dear old lady experienced being gang raped by that pack of feral animals?

(the autopsy states she was raped. Don’t think all of these animals didn’t all participate)

And can you imagine the pain, the horror of that dear old husband having to witness this?

There’s a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.

WHERE ARE THE CHARGES OF A RACIAL HATE CRIME??

90 year old husband’s jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?

85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??

Why does it take a foreign press to enlighten America as to this henious crime?

WHERE IS THE NATIONAL OUTRAGE?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html

__________________________

Have they caught the rest of the gang of feral blacks who raped, tortured and murdered this elderly woman? Are they even looking? Not a word about it in the media.

48 posted on 04/20/2012 5:51:49 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More honest headline: Matthew’s slavery to liberalism impacts his reporting of the Martin-Zimmerman case


49 posted on 04/20/2012 6:05:46 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FACT:
My parents were born in Italy, where their ancestors were likely enslaved by the same North African Moslems who are 0bama0’s ancestors.

Where are *MY* bloody reparations? !!!


50 posted on 04/20/2012 6:05:51 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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