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George Zimmerman: Attorney says apology 'self-serving'
Central Florida News 13 ^ | April 22, 2012 | Bakari Savage

Posted on 04/22/2012 6:16:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

ORLANDO -- The family of Trayvon Martin asked for an apology from their son’s shooter, George Zimmerman, and got one. But their attorney, Benjamin Crump, says it wasn’t good enough.

Zimmerman, faces second degree murder charges and apologized during his bond hearing for shooting Trayvon Martin, but the family is unforgiving.

“It’s real simple. When they called asking for this meeting the day before the bond hearing, we said this is not the appropriate time. And we certainly don’t think the bond hearing was the appropriate time because it’s very self-serving,” explained Crump.

Attorney Ben Crump and the Martin family say Zimmerman’s courtroom apology was half-hearted because if he was truly sorry, it would have been posted on his Web site when it was set up.

They say it never was. Zimmerman has said he made other attempts to apologize, yet the Martin family hasn’t budged.

When asked what is would take for the family to forgive, Crump replied, “The truth. The truth. I think when you apologize and stuff, you’ve got to be truthful.”

Crump attended the premiere of “Beating Justice: The Martin Lee Anderson Story” at the Florida Film Feestival Sunday, which he says is a story from six years ago, but very similar to what’s happening now.

“I mean, very rarely do you get a documentary of a kid actually dying and that’s what we had in the bootcamp case. Well, here in the Trayvon Martin case, we have a 911 tape where you hear the last minutes of a kid’s life again,” said Crump.

Zimmerman is awaiting release from jail on $150,000 bond.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: florida; georgezimmerman; lmm; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
Translation: We quit our jobs for this. Where's our money at, sucker?!
1 posted on 04/22/2012 6:16:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Crump is here in Tallahassee. He can kiss my lilly white ass.


2 posted on 04/22/2012 6:20:15 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any apology to any liberal or any leftist at any time for any reason, no matter how well-intentioned, is always a mistake. Always. There are no exceptions to this rule. Period.


3 posted on 04/22/2012 6:21:51 PM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: goseminoles
Is he just slow or does he sport an extra chromosome?
4 posted on 04/22/2012 6:24:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When asked what is would take for the family to forgive, Crump replied, “The truth. The truth. I think when you apologize and stuff..."

"And stuff"? This guy is an attorney?

5 posted on 04/22/2012 6:25:33 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Big mistake to apologize. Does he expect to be convicted? He just gave the opposition a huge weapon. Obviously learned nothing from the apologies of the Kenyan-in-Chief and the crippling effect they have had on America's foreign policy.



Nos genuflectitur ad non princeps sed Princeps Pacem!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

6 posted on 04/22/2012 6:26:19 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Major Matt Mason
Have you ever heard him speak? Bubba in Forrest Gump is Stephen Hawking by comparison.
7 posted on 04/22/2012 6:29:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They can’t handle the truth about their thug son.


8 posted on 04/22/2012 6:30:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

I don’t think he apologized, per se, but rather said he was sorry for their loss, which implies no guilt.


9 posted on 04/22/2012 6:32:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Speaking as a neutral (at least temporarily), the Martin family have made a serious error by selecting a loudmouth lawyer out of central casting. Yes the state will be prosecuting but the daily doses of outrage from the Martin camp will soon become tiresome even to sympathizers.


10 posted on 04/22/2012 6:34:19 PM PDT by relictele (We are officially OUT of other people's money!)
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To: samtheman

I hate libtards and won’t apologize to them either. They won’t apologize for destroying the country so they need to “go”.


11 posted on 04/22/2012 6:34:57 PM PDT by max americana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Neither. He is racist on purpose. He knows what he’s doing. There is a married couple with the name of hobbs in town. Just as bad.


12 posted on 04/22/2012 6:35:55 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The lawyers, the legal system, and the thugs parents are going to milk Zimmerman for all he’s worth.... Just to appease that demographic.


13 posted on 04/22/2012 6:37:25 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Money cannot buy happiness, but it's more comfortable to cry in a Mercedes than on a bicycle.)
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To: Sarajevo

If Mr. Zimmerman uses “Stand Your Ground” to free himself he cannot be prosecuted again and cannot be sued either, as I understand it.


14 posted on 04/22/2012 6:41:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was actually stunned when I first heard him speak. He’s almost unintelligible. I was also stunned how much total bs he spewed about the case. He claimed Zimmerman fired twice. He also made some wacky comments about Trayvon’s so-called girlfriend on the phone. Hopefully, it’ll come back to bite him in the ass.


15 posted on 04/22/2012 6:46:46 PM PDT by Krankor
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From the article: When asked what is would take for the family to forgive, Crump replied, “The truth. The truth. I think when you apologize and stuff, you’ve got to be truthful.”

Well, Mr. Crump, you have to be willing to accept the real truth, not the ‘truth’ you want to hear.


16 posted on 04/22/2012 6:49:48 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anyone posting an article on Attorney Ben Crump should also provide a link to the freerepublic thread titled:
“Travon Martin Shooting ‘DeeDee’ Reveals The False “Truths” (Martin lawyers lying about girlfriend) Saturday April 21, 2012.
I would like to see George Zimmerman give a testimony. & Have all the >known facts in the situation set out in a >trustworthy legal document. Anything excluded due to Hearsay would be labeled as such & also provided too.


17 posted on 04/22/2012 6:50:45 PM PDT by gghd (A Pro-life Palinista & a member of the NRA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I must admit I have only seen portions of the statement out of context, not the full statement. What I have seen looks like an apology to me. It was absolutely unnecessary for him to make such a statement in any event.

It was only a bail hearing. All he had to show was that he was employed, had significant connections to the community, had no prior record, and was not a flight risk.

The statement he made could only hurt his defense. If I were his attorney, I would have told him to make no statement that could possibly be construed as an admission of fault.



Nos genuflectitur ad non princeps sed Princeps Pacem!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

18 posted on 04/22/2012 6:57:02 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Krankor

Affirmative action in the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_the_United_States


19 posted on 04/22/2012 7:03:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Benjamin $ee$ hi$ big pay-day fading into the $un$et, and he i$ pi$$ed.


20 posted on 04/22/2012 7:12:02 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? You're really that dense? Really?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Didn’t do link but headline is misleading and should read

Martin Family Attorney : Claimes Zimmerman “Apology” Self Eserving...

While it not clear how much later the family would have been aware of when the missing Trayvon was killed because Trayvon’s father was aware of his death for police notified the family almost immediately from previous police photos .
It took a full day later for the father to formally identify Trayvon’s body,
Yet the family laywer Dewey Cheatem


21 posted on 04/22/2012 7:12:17 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (The best way to punish a - country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Correct.... Only for the loss of their punk rug rat.


22 posted on 04/22/2012 7:21:19 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: samtheman

Exactly right. As is any attempt at compromise or appeasement. In an all out culture war, the nice guy is invariably the victim. You just have to confront and defeat the enemy.


23 posted on 04/22/2012 7:26:11 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's the problem. That same attorney asked why he didn't apologize sooner. Zimmerman said because his attorneys told him not to talk to the Martins.

And he didn't apologize, he said he was sorry for their loss.

24 posted on 04/22/2012 7:28:52 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: PubliusMM

These parents can’t handle the truth. You think they didn’t know about Tray’s website. Baloney...


25 posted on 04/22/2012 7:30:44 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ConorMacNessa

If you look at the context of the statement, it’s more an expression of sympathy. The decision to call it an appology, then imply that it was an admission of guilt was Crump’s, and he was shouting that from the rafters 24 hours before Zimmerman said anything. If “the truth” is what’s necessary to resolve the issue, then Crump needs to resign from the case.


26 posted on 04/22/2012 7:31:17 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: goseminoles
I realize that Zimmerman was an amateur deer in headlights, and aware that the world was watching when he was "on the stand" the other day during his bail hearing........but it really pissed me off when the prosecutor asked him about "the crime he'd committed" and Z passed over that part of the question.

I'd have stood up and told him to f+ck himself and "rephrase the question", without the attorney word trickery.

This is one of the very, very few times I'd be leaning towards the defense.

27 posted on 04/22/2012 7:36:46 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (A conservative, a liberal and a moderate walked into a bar; barkeep said "Hi Mitt")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If Mr. Zimmerman uses “Stand Your Ground” to free himself he cannot be prosecuted again and cannot be sued either, as I understand it.

I can see "special" circumstances being made just to railroad the guy.

IMO- it was a good kill- politicians and the legal system are just using it for their own benefit.

28 posted on 04/22/2012 7:37:08 PM PDT by Sarajevo ( Alcohol does not solve any problems, but then again, neither does milk.)
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To: ArmstedFragg
Mr. Zimmerman has been swimming in shark-infested waters since the news of this case broke. Of course Crump would take any statement of sympathy from Zimmerman and distort it into an apology, if not a confession. There's no way you're going to get Crump out of the case. He is "zealously" pursuing the case of his client. There is almost no limit to what the Court will allow in zealousness on behalf of one's client.

I say again, if Zimmerman were my client, I would not permit him to make any statement that could possibly be construed as an admission of guilt.



Nos genuflectitur ad non princeps sed Princeps Pacem!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

29 posted on 04/22/2012 7:52:43 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: goseminoles

“Crump is here in Tallahassee. He can kiss my lilly white ass.”

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9d/Helen_02.JPG/300px-Helen_02.JPG

Helen Crump


30 posted on 04/22/2012 7:59:32 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: goseminoles
Crump is a lying bloodsucker who uses dead kids to fill his pockets and promote himself. He should be disbarred for the lies he already told in the Zimmerman case.
31 posted on 04/22/2012 8:16:17 PM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: ConorMacNessa

That Crump was so upset in Court with his stupid questions about the timing of the apology and so upset now he has to talk about it in public suggests it may have been a good strategy.


32 posted on 04/22/2012 9:15:09 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ConorMacNessa

Well, I tend to agree, although he’s actually zealously pursuing his client’s future civil case, and probably also zealously pursuing the opportunity to spread his firm’s reputation for zealotry, thereby making settlements more likely in future civil actions for other clients. His client isn’t a party at the moment.

The interesting comment in this story was to the effect that he’d actually asked for the “apology”. If true, he prompted the response that he later tried to take advantage of. Another reason for your “don’ say nothing” stance.


33 posted on 04/22/2012 10:01:45 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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34 posted on 04/22/2012 10:08:52 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: ModelBreaker

On the political front Obama’s minions are trying to make up for what damage he and his pals did to race relation in this country. We actually had white people (men as far as I know) attacked by black racist groups. Obama sacrificed their safety for his stinin’ anti-second amendment and re-election political aims. It’s backfired on the black left.

Anyway, Pelosi’s daughter does short video news reports for Jon Stewart and the bottom line was to show that it is the media’s fault everything was blown up into a race hate power keg. She did this by going to Sanford and looking for the Neo-nazis and NOI. She shows the audience there is one Neo-nazi who lives in the Sanford and then she shows a video clip of around 8 NOI racists standing on the side of the road and proclaimed that was the extent of the race conflict. Then Stewart flashes to carefully edited news media people mentioning key words out of context, like they made it all up. He hit Ted Baxter on Fox with the political repair stunt.

The media did make up a lot of the story in an effort to demonize Zimmerman and self defense, but they did not make up the stuff about the NOI threats to Zimmerman and his family and to all whites. It was a call to the wild and a lot of white men were attacked by black racists because of it. We know one documented case where the racists named Trayvon as the reason for the brutal attack. They hit him in the head with a big chain three times and then beat him with fists and feet. All for Obama’s big fat ego.

Seems that was incited by the NOI racist rally. I remember when the KKK held a rally and inspired an animal to run out and attack a black man. The criminal said the KKK rally had inspired him in his racist attack. Liberals sued the KKK leaders and organization civilly and cleaned them out. I would love to see this white guy sue Jackson, Sharpton and the NOI creeps.


35 posted on 04/22/2012 10:27:56 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Crump is Al Sharpton with a law degree.


36 posted on 04/23/2012 1:16:07 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How dare Zimmerman try to contradict how the media has defined him as a cold-blooded murderer by apologizing to the victim's parents!

How dare Zimmerman contradict how the media has defined him as a racist by presenting evidence to the contrary!

How dare Zimmerman contradict how the media has defined him as a large 240+ pound bruiser by appearing on camera as well-spoken, considerate man of average height and weight.

What unmitigated gall!
37 posted on 04/23/2012 2:19:42 AM PDT by zencycler
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Benjamin Crump (aka Algonquin J. Calhoun)


38 posted on 04/23/2012 3:01:48 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: ModelBreaker

In addition to his linguistic challenges, Crump is completely out of his depth as he attempts to stage a Gloria Allred-type media campaign. But Allred, as odious as she is, usually sticks to shakedowns involving private individuals. Crump is jumping the gun badly and upstaging the very people he is relying on for ‘justice.’

Regardless of the outcome of a criminal trial, it’s obvious that a civil suit will be filed.


39 posted on 04/23/2012 6:26:30 AM PDT by relictele (We are officially OUT of other people's money!)
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To: ModelBreaker

Ah - I didn’t know about this provision in the law:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2875258/posts?page=14#14


40 posted on 04/23/2012 6:28:55 AM PDT by relictele (We are officially OUT of other people's money!)
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