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Illegal Immigrants Getting Bigger Tax Refunds
WBIW.com ^ | April 27, 2012 | WBIW.com

Posted on 05/01/2012 8:20:52 PM PDT by moonshinner_09

(INDIANAPOLIS) - Millions of illegal immigrants are getting a bigger tax refund than you.

Bob Segall, of WTHI reports finding a massive tax loophole that provides billions of dollars in tax credits to undocumented workers and, in many cases, people who have never stepped foot in the United States. And you are paying for it. I nside his central Indiana office, a longtime tax consultant sits at his desk, shaking his head in disbelief.

"There is not a doubt in my mind there's huge fraud taking place here," he said, slowly flipping through the pages of a tax return.

The tax preparer does not want you to know his name for fear of reprisal, but he does want you to know about a nationwide problem with a huge price tag.

He came to 13 Investigates to blow the whistle.

"We're talking about a multi-billion dollar fraud scheme here that's taking place and no one is talking about it," he said.

The scheme involves illegal immigrants -- illegal immigrants who are filing tax returns.

How it works

The Internal Revenue Service says everyone who is employed in the United States - even those who are working here illegally - must report income and pay taxes. Of course, undocumented workers are not supposed to have a social security number. So for them to pay taxes, the IRS created what's called an ITIN, an individual taxpayer identification number. A 9-digit ITIN number issued by the IRS provides both resident and nonresident aliens with a unique identification number that allows them to file tax returns.

While that may have seemed like a good idea, it's now backfiring in a big way.

(Excerpt) Read more at wbiw.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrationaliens; irs; taxrefunds
darn IRS is giving away free money. i may as well be illegal and get me $29,608.Can stay home, take vacations.According may churches honest hardworking illegals. Who says crime does not pay..

20 kids = $30,000

Several undocumented workers who confirmed it is easy.

They all agreed to talk with WTHR investigative reporter Bob Segall and a translator as long as WTHR agreed not to reveal their identity.

1 posted on 05/01/2012 8:21:04 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

If you are illegal, how do you get a tax refund?


2 posted on 05/01/2012 8:23:15 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: moonshinner_09

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3 posted on 05/01/2012 8:24:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: moonshinner_09

Under Hussein and Cloward-Piven, I’m sure this is by design.


4 posted on 05/01/2012 8:33:07 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: doc1019

Child tax credit


5 posted on 05/01/2012 8:37:15 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Waiting for the new tagline to download)
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To: mrsmel
I can see the rationale for giving illegals a larger tax break. Along with the corpses in cemetaries, they provide the margin of victory for Democrats electorally in presidential and other political races.

The Demorats do know how to take of their constiuents.

6 posted on 05/01/2012 8:38:11 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: moonshinner_09

There is no loophole, the returns described are blatantly fraudulent. You can only claim Qualifying Children and to be one the child must live with you for more than 6 months AND be either a US Citizen, US National, or US resident. Kids back in Mexico DO NOT QUALIFY. But then again, why would an ILLEGAL worry about following tax law if they don’t follow immigration law. See Pub 17, pg 231.


7 posted on 05/01/2012 8:49:42 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (SpaceX Dragon launch to ISS, Cape Canaveral AFS, May 7, 9:38 AM EDT)
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To: moonshinner_09

Glad to hear this getting some play. The child credit, EITC, and other credits, refundable or not, are more insidious than any deduction.


8 posted on 05/01/2012 9:01:49 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: moonshinner_09

>>darn IRS is giving away free money<<

They have been doing it, eyes wide open, for years. It is called EIC and represents the most obvious and callous direct vote buying scheme in the history of all democracies (of which, thank God, we are not).

Our liberties fall to the tub bottom and swirl down the drain, along with our hard-earned money.


9 posted on 05/01/2012 9:05:47 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: andyk

GMTA amigo...


10 posted on 05/01/2012 9:06:37 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: moonshinner_09
First:
Several years ago a friend was sued for palimony and child support (his and other's). He went to court with proof that the "lady" made three times his salary via bogus welfare and SS payments for her and her kids (she made more than I did as a manager in a "major aerospace corporation"). State responded with a huge cut out of my friend's income and "it would cost too much to prosecute her", ergo, no change to her scam except to add to the funds the state felt she was due.

(She's still scamming and he owns a small business in another state.)

Second:
When I decided to claim a dependent other than a qualifying child I had to provide proof that I paid more than half of her total costs...damn near half of my total costs.

And someone can claim 20 kids in mexico without being questioned?

11 posted on 05/01/2012 9:30:30 PM PDT by norton
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To: NonValueAdded

Geeez...and I sweat over the making a mistake on my mileage decuction


12 posted on 05/01/2012 9:42:18 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; null and void; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; ...

OMG PING!!!!!!


13 posted on 05/01/2012 10:07:13 PM PDT by bitt (“There are only two races of men: the decent and the indecent.” —Viktor Frankl, survivor, Nazi co)
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To: moonshinner_09

Why stop at 20? Why not claim 100. Or 500. The IRS doesn’t care - it’s not their money.


14 posted on 05/01/2012 10:11:48 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


15 posted on 05/01/2012 10:14:08 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: moonshinner_09
This is great ....

This year I made a mistake and my fat fingers put a 6 in place of a 3 in my kids SSN.

I was waiting for my stupid $350 back from the feds and after 4 weeks I got a letter saying they "corrected" my return and I owed them $2500 because one of my dependents was excluded.

Long story short, I hope I corrected the situation with a letter documenting that my natural born son is an actual dependent, still waiting but hopeful I can avoid a full audit.

So glad the illegals are spared these worries, I guess its important that they feel welcomed. Its good to know someone is watching /s

16 posted on 05/01/2012 10:20:01 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: moonshinner_09

COME ‘ON. VOTES AIN’T CHEAP.


17 posted on 05/01/2012 10:35:20 PM PDT by chit*chat
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To: mrsmel

It surely is! Defeating the 0bamanation and his minions is not enough. A trial for treason would be in order..


18 posted on 05/01/2012 10:58:11 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: mrsmel

It surely is! Defeating the 0bamanation and his minions is not enough. A trial for treason would be in order..


19 posted on 05/01/2012 10:58:11 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Geeze...


20 posted on 05/01/2012 11:03:14 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: moonshinner_09
The loophole is called the Additional Child Tax Credit. It's a fully-refundable credit of up to $1000 per child, and it's meant to help working families who have children living at home. But many undocumented workers are claiming the tax credit for kids who live in Mexico - lots of kids in Mexico. "We've seen sometimes 10 or 12 dependents, most times nieces and nephews, on these tax forms," the whistleblower said. "The more you put on there, the more you get back." The whistleblower has thousands of examples, and he brought some of them to 13 Investigates.

Ya tell Americans they're being gang raped by government and millions of illegals, yet many just don't seem to get it or they're likely profiting off their cheap illegal labor.

Corruption and profits regardless of consequences, will eventually leave America dead on the floor.

21 posted on 05/01/2012 11:09:42 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: moonshinner_09

“Here’s a return right here: we’ve got a $10,3000 refund for nine nieces and nephews,” he said, pointing to the words “niece” and “nephew” listed on the tax forms nine separate times.

“We’re getting an $11,000 refund on this tax return. There’s seven nieces and nephews,” he said, pointing to another set of documents. “I can bring out stacks and stacks. It’s just so easy it’s ridiculous.”

20 kids = $30,000


22 posted on 05/01/2012 11:12:00 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: bitt

So where are both sides of Congress on this. They have ignored it for so long. Tis sad.


23 posted on 05/01/2012 11:36:46 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: voteNRA
"...my natural born son..."

Any chance of you talking him into running for President this year?

24 posted on 05/01/2012 11:50:53 PM PDT by Senator Pardek ( It might be hard for some of the younger Freepers to believe, but in 1982)
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To: piytar
" The IRS doesn’t care - it’s not their money."

No truer words have been spoken.

These maggots work for the ever diminishing tax base in this country. This will not end well :-(

25 posted on 05/01/2012 11:54:10 PM PDT by jazzer10
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To: moonshinner_09

The IRS is simply too busy to look into little cases like these. Their staff is all tied up auditing Tea Party groups and churches...


26 posted on 05/02/2012 2:52:46 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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To: moonshinner_09; All
We're always hearing, not only from Democrats & RINOs, but also from Conservatives like Bush, Perry, Gingrich, Rubio... of the "contributions" hardworking law-abiding illegals make to America.

Beyond what this article exposes of the large numbers of illegals the IRS allows to defraud the American taxpayers, what does it reveal concerning all illegals as a group and their "contribution" to America?

According to the follow excerpt, of the 12-20 million "hardworking, law-abiding, contributing" illegals, only 3 million file tax returns and of those filing the total paid out as tax credits to all illegals is more than the total of taxes paid by all illegals:

{Per} Russell George, the United States Department of Treasury's Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA).

* Undocumented workers filed 3.02 million tax returns in 2010. 72% of those returns (2.18 million) claimed the additional child tax credit.

* Claims for additional child tax credits by ITIN filers have skyrocketed during the past decade, from $161 million in 2001 to $4.2 billion in tax year 2010.

* In 2010, the IRS owed undocumented workers more in claimed additional child tax credits than it collected from those workers in taxes.

or NET TAX GAIN for ALL ILLEGALS = Zero/Nada/Zilch

Deal with that Bush, Perry, Gingrich, Rubio... and all the rest of you "Conservative" apologists for the illegal invaders!

27 posted on 05/02/2012 4:00:47 AM PDT by drpix
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To: moonshinner_09
Illegal Immigrants Getting Bigger Tax Refunds

Just emperor Hussein's regime telling the illegal aliens to vote for the dims in November.

28 posted on 05/02/2012 4:45:28 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Sworn to Defend The Constitution Against ALL Enemies, Foreign and Domestic. So Help Me GOD!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Are you over $15 Trillion in debt?

If not, you have more money than the federal government of the United States.

So tell me, where does this money come from before they GIVE it to illegal criminal aliens?


29 posted on 05/02/2012 4:45:39 AM PDT by reaganator
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To: bitt; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks bitt.


30 posted on 05/02/2012 4:47:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: moonshinner_09

Any refunds for illegal aliens should be automatically withheld to pay for the services they “steal” by being in this Country illegally.


31 posted on 05/02/2012 4:47:45 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Sworn to Defend The Constitution Against ALL Enemies, Foreign and Domestic. So Help Me GOD!)
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To: piytar
Why not deduct the entire village? Between the government giving our money away in the form of foreign aid, the U.N. using our troops and equipment and bogus tax refunds, I don't see why Obama thinks we need to spread the wealth; we've apparently been participating in that practice for years.
32 posted on 05/02/2012 5:08:36 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Best idea I've ever heard. Tis sad it will never be enacted.

Fraud is not illegal for an illegal. The Twilight Zone has engulfed America. Can America get out of the Twilight Zone?

33 posted on 05/02/2012 5:09:06 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: All
Treasury Department Says Illegal Aliens Collecting Billions in Tax Credits

According to the US Dept of Treasury’s Inspector General, more than $4.2 billion in additional child credits were paid out in 2010 to illegal immigrants. In 2005, the pay outs totaled $924 million. This program allows low income earners to claim a $1,000 per child credit. $20 billion EITC is estimated to have been paid out to these cunning "impoverished" illegals. Most of them are collecting over and over again-----using multiple identities-----falsifying official apps---claiming children they do not have and/or falsely stating kids are back in their homelands.

REFERENCE March 8, 2012 KENNER, La. -- Kenner police arrested illegal Marvin Baca who sold false W-2 forms to another illegal immigrant for $1,500. Baca sold fraudulent W-2 forms for $1,500 to other Hispanics here illegally.

Police said that on one of the forged W-2 forms had a SS no of a person living in Virginia. Police said illegal Hispanics purchase fictitious W-2 forms and file false tax returns with the government to receive EITC refunds. Baca was charged with one count of ID theft and two counts of forgery.

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The "just here for a better life" crowd who freely violate our borders and "do the jobs Americans won't do" have more criminal enterprises than you can shake a stick at.

<><> Hilderberto Salinas sold state drivers' licenses issued out of the state’s Motor Vehicle Agency in NJ to illegals with multiple identities who did not have the necessary id's....among 40 people who participated in the widespread ring. "Impoverished" illegals paid $2,500 to $7,000 apiece for the licenses.

<><>ICE's "documents and benefits fraud task force" found a common practice among "impoverished" illegals is to buy several faked identitues for several thousand dollars each----the illegal then votes and rides the US gravy train under several names. Jose Madrigal---the Washington state rapist---had some 30 identities.

<><> July 21, 2006----NJ BERGEN RECORD---Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, NJ L/E authorities said. The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout.

After a search, police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs. All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards.

<><>June 26, 2010 An illegal using multiple identities was sentenced to prison and ordered to pay back $3 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment compensation. Manuel Mejia Ordonez, got eight years for conspiracy to commit mail fraud........and identity theft.

34 posted on 05/02/2012 5:37:26 AM PDT by Liz
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To: AuntB; Tennessee Nana; Clintonfatigued; Grampa Dave; rintense; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ...

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877-762-8762

866-808-0065

866-220-0044


35 posted on 05/02/2012 5:48:42 AM PDT by Liz
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To: NonValueAdded

I heard about this scam a year ago.

A Hispanic acquaintance of mine was chatting with a neighbor at the store, an Illegal Immigrant. The illegal lady described how she went to a storefront tax prep office where they COACHED HER ON HOW TO APPLY FOR A REFUND.

The illegal lady bragged, “I got a check for over $9000 and I didn’t even work last year!”

The IRS needs to send a few undercover agents into storefront tax prep offices and put the perps behind bars for an extended stay...with total asset seizure. Then they need the guy’s client list to prosecute as well.


36 posted on 05/02/2012 5:54:54 AM PDT by darth
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To: moonshinner_09; Liz; AuntB; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ...
You know that some libs tricked stupid Republicans like a McCain or Gramnesty or GWB into believing special federal taxpayer IDs for illegals (ITIN, an individual taxpayer identification number) was a great way to raise federal revenue (idiots!)

So naturally they pay no taxes and then file apparently legally for tax credits, which I have always said here is just another for of welfare. It's handing someone other peoples money=welfare.

Not surprising the child tax credit that illegals are filing for their kids in Mexico is a GWB compassionate conservative achievement . By now you should know what I think of him.

Each spring, at tax preparation offices all across the nation, many illegal immigrants are now eagerly filing tax returns to take advantage of a tax loophole, using their ITIN numbers to get huge refunds from the IRS.
The loophole is called the Additional Child Tax Credit. It's a fully-refundable credit of up to $1000 per child , and it's meant to help working families who have children living at home.
But many undocumented workers are claiming the tax credit for kids who live in Mexico - lots of kids in Mexico.
“We've seen sometimes 10 or 12 dependents, most times nieces and nephews, on these tax forms,” the whistleblower said. “The more you put on there, the more you get back.

Illegal Immigrants Getting Bigger Tax Refunds, Last updated on Friday, April 27, 2012

37 posted on 05/02/2012 6:17:13 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: sickoflibs

You’d love Judge Judy——she gets a lot of “disabled” and EITC scammers. She lacerates the scammers and brilliantly gets them to confess to federal crimes.

One guy was collecting disability—JJ got him to admit he was delivering furniture for a living.

JJ tells her audience-——tens of millions of viewers——that she sends to Congress TV tapes of these scammers confessing.


38 posted on 05/02/2012 6:41:08 AM PDT by Liz
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To: All
Millions of illegal immigrants are getting huge tax refunds via a massive tax loophole that provides billions of dollars in tax credits to illegals.....in many cases, people who have never stepped foot in the United States, who claim non-existent children they supposedly left back in their homelands.

KEEP IN MIND, this is done over and over, using multiple identities.

Jose Madrigal---the Washington state rapist---had some 30 identities. Another illegal collected over $3 million in UI using identity theft....before he was finally caught.

"Impoverished" illegals buy multiple forged/fake identities for several thousand dollars each....to ride the US gravy train.....and to vote.

39 posted on 05/02/2012 6:49:22 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
RE :”You’d love Judge Judy——she gets a lot of “disabled” and EITC scammers. She lacerates the scammers and brilliantly gets them to confess to federal crimes.
One guy was collecting disability—JJ got him to admit he was delivering furniture for a living.

I watched her for years. I remember her telling a women who she was sueing that she would not rule against her friend that owed her (or stole her) money that she originally got from a government scam.

Eventually I got bored because she was picking/showing too many boy-friend-girlfriend-loan-gift cases which are all the same and stupid.

Judge Joe Brown is really good at making fun of the scammers of taxpayer money too, and he doesn't have that obsession with asking about child support that JJ does when it has nothing to do with the cases,

40 posted on 05/02/2012 6:51:42 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: Liz

BUMP


41 posted on 05/02/2012 8:00:04 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Liz
Calling won't do any good. They're all in it together to get 'the Hispanic vote'.(1)
Meanwhile, our 'temporary guests' from the south are laughing and saying this:
Mis amigos, mirada en esto.
¡Gracias del DINERO LIBRE a los americanos estúpidos!
(1) When the GOP took the House back a Bill was introduced --- NO Child Tax Credit For Illegals --- and it went nowhere. I can't recall who the House member was that was its Sponsor, think he was a Tea Party newbie. And he got zero support from his fellow 'republicans'.
(iirc the Bill was called by the Dems and MSM ... you got it ... 'Racist'.)
42 posted on 05/02/2012 8:05:53 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: NonValueAdded
There is no loophole, the returns described are blatantly fraudulent. You can only claim Qualifying Children and to be one the child must live with you for more than 6 months AND be either a US Citizen, US National, or US resident.

The biased one-sided press doesn't care - and their 'concern' is what pushes the machine.

43 posted on 05/02/2012 8:35:25 AM PDT by GOPJ (Had a Christian minister yelled at a bunch of gay students - the New York Times would have covered i)
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To: NonValueAdded
There is no loophole, the returns described are blatantly fraudulent. You can only claim Qualifying Children and to be one the child must live with you for more than 6 months AND be either a US Citizen, US National, or US resident.

The biased one-sided press doesn't care - their 'concern' pushes the machine.

44 posted on 05/02/2012 8:37:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (Had a Christian minister yelled at a bunch of gay students - the New York Times would have covered i)
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To: jazzer10

The IRS cares if a conservative does something wrong. One standard for mass murderers (metaphorically) and one for jay walkers... Jay walkers are in BIG trouble is they screw up...


45 posted on 05/02/2012 8:39:50 AM PDT by GOPJ (Had a Christian minister yelled at a bunch of gay students - the New York Times would have covered i)
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To: sickoflibs

Thanks for the ping.


46 posted on 05/02/2012 9:03:52 AM PDT by GOPJ (Had a Christian minister yelled at a bunch of gay students - the New York Times would have covered i)
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To: Condor51

I agree-—vote-crazy pols are sucking up for illegal votes-—especially since each illegal votes several times under
multiple identities. But I have noticed the latino agenda is getting fainter and fainter-—when was the last time you heard the A-word (amnesty?)

Perry went downhill fast when found he gave in-state tuition to illegals-—even Texans did not know about it. Calling Americans who disagreed with him “heartless” did not help.

Not that Ohaha has not done his part-—and closer to election day, he’ll be on his knees giving latinos bj’s.


47 posted on 05/02/2012 3:50:01 PM PDT by Liz
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To: liberalh8ter
I don't see why Obama thinks we need to spread the wealth; we've apparently been participating in that practice for years.

These refunds kill two birds with one stone: (1) vote buying and (2) redistribution of wealth.

48 posted on 05/08/2012 9:28:41 PM PDT by KittyKares (.)
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