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To: DiogenesLamp
"If it is not salient to your point, why bring it up?"
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I'm not sure what you think my "point" is, but the existence of a consensus, while not establishing the correctness of the theory on which the consensus exists, has some very real consequences.

I think the most significant one is that it shows that what the consensus represents -- the rejection of the "heritage-based" requirement for natural born citizenship -- is currently the prevailing view in the judicial community.

Again, that does not mean it is in any sense "correct." But it does mean, for example, that even if a future SCOTUS ruling were to change the picture, and render ineligible a future Presidential hopeful on heritage-based grounds, it would have no effect on the 2008 election, because those grounds were not in effect under the law prevailing at the time.

It's similar to what I said the other day. If Roe v. Wade were overturned tomorrow, it would not criminalize abortions performed yesterday.

Slavery is wrong today and it was wrong before it was abolished. But it was legal then, and people who practiced it were not considered legally accountable for something they did that was legal under the prevailing law of the time.
93 posted on 05/08/2012 1:18:21 PM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: BigGuy22
I'm not sure what you think my "point" is, but the existence of a consensus, while not establishing the correctness of the theory on which the consensus exists, has some very real consequences.

I think the most significant one is that it shows that what the consensus represents -- the rejection of the "heritage-based" requirement for natural born citizenship -- is currently the prevailing view in the judicial community.

Again, that does not mean it is in any sense "correct." But it does mean, for example, that even if a future SCOTUS ruling were to change the picture, and render ineligible a future Presidential hopeful on heritage-based grounds, it would have no effect on the 2008 election, because those grounds were not in effect under the law prevailing at the time.

It's similar to what I said the other day. If Roe v. Wade were overturned tomorrow, it would not criminalize abortions performed yesterday.

Slavery is wrong today and it was wrong before it was abolished. But it was legal then, and people who practiced it were not considered legally accountable for something they did that was legal under the prevailing law of the time.

Yes, that's a very elegant tap dance you have done around the point. You mention the consensus, not to prove it correct, but just to prove it has consequences, eh?

You miss a greater point. The end goal is not the legal system but the culture itself. History needs to reflect that this man was not legitimate, and is just a further degradation of one more in a long line of Democrat garbage presidents for whom we have to thank for the deaths of millions and the massive economic and cultural destruction of our society.

It is important to keep hammering the fact that the man has gamed the political system via exploiting the corruption of the legal system, and that judges cannot be counted on to represent or defend the interest of the people.

From my perspective, it is our DUTY to call into question the legitimacy of our courts. They have long since stopped performing their rightful role, and they have taken on the appearance of petty despots.

I think perhaps if a few of them get hanged in the oncoming social collapse, it may focus the minds of those remaining to pay closer attention to the duty of upholding the principles that might have prevented it. If not, the tree of liberty could always use some more decorative fruit.

Barack needs to go down in History as a false president, and one that is undeserving of respect. His name should be synonymous with traitor as is Benedict Arnold. His supporters likewise need to pay a horrible price for their role in his deceit. America, History, and the World need to know the truth about this man, and the only way that is going to happen is if he keeps being shown to be the illegitimate bastard that he really is.

He should be a source of humiliation to those people who have enabled him, not just to decent people.

99 posted on 05/08/2012 2:29:46 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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