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Video - Women's Vote Was “One Of The Greatest Mistakes America Made”
Liberty.com ^ | 05/08/2012 | Liberty.com

Posted on 05/08/2012 12:52:59 PM PDT by Mich1193

"Exploring Your Destiny" Sunday Service Webcast w/ Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson. Topic: How most women are building a shameless society. What do you think?

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To: RIghtwardHo

God help us and this guy is supposed to be on our side....no more.


51 posted on 05/08/2012 1:35:25 PM PDT by kenmcg (How)
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To: Mich1193

Oh, goody. Another “Wimmin R Evil” thread on FR. I’m shocked.


52 posted on 05/08/2012 1:38:15 PM PDT by Politicalmom (THIS IS NOT A GOP CHEERLEADING SITE!!!)
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To: Mich1193

You’ve got to admit that without the women’s vote we probably wouldn’t be falling into a marxist cesspool.


53 posted on 05/08/2012 1:46:26 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: justiceseeker93

“If I’m not mistaken, no Democrat in a presidential race has won the men’s vote since Lyndon Johnson!”


Actually, Clinton won a plurality of the male vote in 1992 (when Perot did much better among men than among women), and I think that Obama carried the male vote in 2008. But, yes, Democrats have a big problem with male voters.


54 posted on 05/08/2012 1:48:16 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: justiceseeker93

Wasted away again in Margaritaville,

Searchin’ for my lost shaker of salt.

Some people claim that there’s a woman to blame,

Now I think, - hell it could be my fault.

http://www.seeklyrics.com/lyrics/Jimmy-Buffett/Margaritaville.html


55 posted on 05/08/2012 1:49:16 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: jimsin

[[ ANN COULTER reasons it this way:
“If we took away women’s right to vote, we’d never have to worry about another Democrat president. It’s kind of a pipe dream, it’s a personal fantasy of mine, but I don’t think it’s going to happen. And it is a good way of making the point that women are voting so stupidly, at least single women.” ]]

Ms. Coulter got it right.
Women are —by their very nature — socialists.
Men, however, are largely individualists by their internal constitutions.

To men, freedom matters.
But women, on the other hand, prefer “security” and safety. Again, this is “in their nature”.
What did Mr. Franklin have to say about that subject, a few centuries ago?

I’m gettin’ old, was never that smart, and my opinion don’t count for much.

But if I had my way...
- The voting age for males would be returned to 21, with the exception of those enlisted in the military, who would be granted the privilege of voting from “age 18 upward”.
- Single females would be granted the vote when they reached the age of 30. If they married prior to age 30, females would be granted the vote subsequent to their marriage.
- Women who were serving in the military, married or unmarried, would be given voting privileges identical to males, i.e., “from age 18 upward”, and would carry such privileges subsequent to their military service.

The devolution of the republic from freedom to socialism that we have been witnessing through the early twentieth century to the present is a direct result of “granting too much suffrage” to those who had been denied it in earlier times. Unfortunately, I see no way to reverse the trend, other than to “break free” from the current republic, and reconstruct a new one that is actually a reversion to “the old ways” (of, say, the nineteenth century) — ways that are now considered misogynist, racis’, xenophobic, blah, blah, blah....


56 posted on 05/08/2012 1:49:46 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: DiogenesLamp

Well women are certainly TAXED, and always have been - even when they were denied equal representation!


57 posted on 05/08/2012 1:50:46 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: bravo whiskey

Add motor voter to that!


58 posted on 05/08/2012 1:51:17 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I hate Rinos and Romney is one of the worst Rinos ever!)
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To: The Duke

LOL!

You had a very wise uncle!


59 posted on 05/08/2012 1:59:44 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I hate Rinos and Romney is one of the worst Rinos ever!)
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To: allmendream
Well women are certainly TAXED, and always have been - even when they were denied equal representation!

Loren C ? Is that you?

:)

60 posted on 05/08/2012 2:08:16 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: marstegreg
I might agree with you except for the fact that most of the people running this country into the ground right now are men and most of the people supporting them are men also. Sure there are a few women but the much larger percentage are men. Just sayin’.

Not true.

Women constitute 53% of the electorate. And, in 2008, women supported Obama and the Democrats by a whopping 56-43 margin.

Almost invariably, women voters favor the Democrat candidate in just about every election and at every level. Even when the Democrat is buried by the Republican, a higher proportion of women vote for the Democrat than do men.

61 posted on 05/08/2012 2:10:48 PM PDT by okie01
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To: marstegreg

I didn’t understand your post, the problem is the male vote?


62 posted on 05/08/2012 2:13:37 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Of course, there were no big government presidents before women could vote. Oh wait, there was that Woodrow Wilson guy. He didn’t want women to vote either.


63 posted on 05/08/2012 2:24:58 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

Me Too!
(ducking...)


64 posted on 05/08/2012 2:26:53 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Doctor 2Brains; AuH2ORepublican

Kennedy won the male vote, females voted for Nixon.


65 posted on 05/08/2012 2:27:50 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

The problem is ignorance. Would-be voters should have to pass a civics test, similar to the driver’s license exam.

Sample questions:

How many senators in the senate?

Who was the second president?

Name the three branches of government.

Who succeeds to the presidency if both president and vice-president are disabled or dead?

Who won the Civil War?

Which president served the longest term?

What was Lincoln’s party?

What was Woodrow Wilson’s party?

Name the year WWII ended.

What is the major source of the federal government’s revenue? (My fovorite question, as none of the Rats seem to know this.)


66 posted on 05/08/2012 2:27:50 PM PDT by Liberty Wins (Newt --named after Isaac Newton?)
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To: justiceseeker93

Although I am a Woman, and have been voting since 1970, I sincerely DO understand where Rev Jesse is coming from. There is a passage in Isaiah that a judgement from God will come when “Women choose your rulers”. Conservative Women vote well and help elect conservative leaders. However, with the demographics of the country leaning more and more to welfare mothers, single mothers, and entitlement divas, the natural tendency of these people will be to vote for a “Sugar daddy” for their government. “Landowners” being the only ones who can vote is really not practical either, as most land and property is actually mortgaged and belongs to the Bank.

I think the idea of taxpayers getting the franchise, whether male, female, white, black., or whatever, is the best idea. And since folks on Social Security pay taxes on that, they will not be disenfranchised.

Just my humble opinion...and BTW, Rev Jesse sounds like he has had a stroke...just sayin’.


67 posted on 05/08/2012 2:29:10 PM PDT by left that other site
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To: Doctor 2Brains

No Pelosi, no Boxer, no Feinstein, no Mikulski, no Maxine Waters, no Cynthia McKinney, no Sanchez sisters, no Louise Slaughter, no Susan Collins, no Olympia Snow, no Claire McCaskill, no Hillary Rodham, no Shelia Jackson Lee, no Debbie Wasserman Schultz, no Lisa Murkowski, no Debbie Stabenow,no Patty Murray, no Maria Cantwell, no Kathleen Sebelius, no Janet Napolitano, no Hilda Solis, no wise Latina, no Ruth Bader Ginsburg, no Elena Kagan ..............................................

OMG, I just convinced myself that giving up my vote would be to the benefit of my country


68 posted on 05/08/2012 2:43:48 PM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: humblegunner

Thank you.


69 posted on 05/08/2012 2:50:35 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Cicero
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Cicero ...


Sorry bubba ...

"Duck and Cover" doesn't do any good when the Incoming Rounds are W88s ...


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70 posted on 05/08/2012 2:57:15 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin "will win" the 2012 GOP Nomination in Tampa !)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Gandalf_The_Gray

I agree. People who have no vested interest in voting for anything except other people’s money for themselves have no business voting at all. It’s just wrong, prima fascia.

The 18-year-old vote is a step too far as well, especially since our schools are spitting out good little socialists who don’t become conservative until they’re older and know a rope or two.


71 posted on 05/08/2012 2:59:28 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: DiogenesLamp

Great tagline! It makes a lot of sense.

“Representation without Taxation is just as odious as Taxation without Representation.”


72 posted on 05/08/2012 3:00:45 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Born to Conserve
No, the biggest mistake was giving the vote to emotional people.

You got that right. There are loads of hysterical men out there, all of them "liberal."

73 posted on 05/08/2012 3:04:53 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: allmendream; Road Glide

allmendream, you nailed it!

Road Glide,

I don’t want to be taxed without having a say in my representation....

I recall a war was started over that issue.

I’m female and do NOT want my right to vote taken away!!!!

(P.S. I am a lifelong conservative, who does NOT agree with the nanny-state, welfare state policies of the democrats)


74 posted on 05/08/2012 3:06:14 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: TheOldLady
Great tagline! It makes a lot of sense.

“Representation without Taxation is just as odious as Taxation without Representation.”

Thank you! Though I'd like to take credit for it, I have to admit that someone else thought up the concept first.

75 posted on 05/08/2012 3:12:57 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Yes, I have thought of it myself, but you said it well. ;-)


76 posted on 05/08/2012 3:24:34 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Mich1193
AFACTOIDAP
(Alert Females And Convince Them Obama Is Destroying America Permanently)
77 posted on 05/08/2012 3:38:27 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Mich1193
How Dramatically Did Women's Suffrage Change the Size and Scope of Government? by John R. Lott Jr.

Using data from 1870 to 1940, Lott and Larry Kenny studied how state government expenditures and revenue changed in 48 state governments after women obtained the right to vote. Women were able to vote in 29 states before women's suffrage and the adoption of the 19th Amendment to the Constitution. Lott found that the impact of granting of women's suffrage on per-capita state government expenditures and revenue was startling.[29]

His research indicates that women's suffrage had a bigger impact on government spending and taxes in states with a greater percentage of women. Even after accounting for variables such as industrialization, urbanization, education and income, per capita real state government spending, which had been flat or falling during the 10 years before women began voting, doubled during the next 11 years. The increase in government spending and revenue started immediately after women started voting in national elections and 19 additional state elections.

78 posted on 05/08/2012 3:59:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: okie01

You want to look at the percentages for how blacks vote—and maybe argue against allowing them to vote too?

Jeesh!


79 posted on 05/08/2012 4:00:00 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ansel12

Sorry. I should have made it clearer. They are both to blame. I am ,however, really sick of ALL divisiveness in any form. Why do you have to single out ANYBODY. It is not a male problem or female problem, it is an American problem. So whats next, only people with a PHD allowed to vote because the rest of us are too stupid or maybe we decide left handed people not worthy? We need to cut out all this crap and become united, not divided.


80 posted on 05/08/2012 4:02:28 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: Buckeye McFrog
...this line of thought is a little too burqua-esque for me...

Once again...were women wearing such garments in this country before 1920?

81 posted on 05/08/2012 4:06:13 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: marstegreg

This is a unique thread on FR. Never saw one like this before. I hope I never do again, either. :)

These guys will love Sharia!


82 posted on 05/08/2012 4:19:41 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: okie01

Women constitute 53% of the electorate. And, in 2008, women supported Obama and the Democrats by a whopping 56-43 margin.

I meant monetary support (Soros/Trumka/most of Goldman Sachs/Union bosses etc. Had it not been for the overwhelming cash Obama things might be different regardless of how many women voted for him. Would you also take away the voting rights of people 30 and under? I believe they broke for Obama in much larger numbers than women (60%).


83 posted on 05/08/2012 4:20:44 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg

How are “they both to blame”? Your whole post made zero sense, how do you target groups of voters when you try to deny that they exist, by the way, PHD’s vote for the left.

It is pretty hard to be involved in voting and elections, and campaigning, or anything related to advancing/selling a political agenda or point of view, when one pretends that voting is done by just a single entity.

Do you think that even people whose business is selling soap, pretend that?


84 posted on 05/08/2012 4:22:18 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: skr

I do believe that it’s established fact (I could be wrong) that no female vote, means no Obama, no Clinton, no Carter, no Kennedy, etc.


85 posted on 05/08/2012 4:25:12 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: ansel12

Do you have a cite for that? I find that very hard to believe.


86 posted on 05/08/2012 4:26:38 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: trailhkr1

“So..no senior citizen older than 65 can vote?”

Sure they can, if they agree not to be on the dole.


87 posted on 05/08/2012 4:28:20 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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To: EyeGuy
"No Representation without Taxation."

Those who rent pay taxes through the rent payments they are charged. Only the landlord knows whether or not they are paying more than he is required to forward to the government on their behalf. I would estimate that in most cases, the landlords make a little middleman money out of the arrangement. This means, in essence, that most renters pay MORE than their fair share of property taxes.

88 posted on 05/08/2012 4:38:01 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Doctor 2Brains

GALLUP NEWS SERVICE: “And in 1960, men sided with Democrat John F. Kennedy by 4 points, 52% to 48%, and women backed Republican Richard Nixon by 2 points, 51% to 49%.

“Prior to 1964, women tended to vote more Republican than did men.”

http://www.gallup.com/poll/2884/big-gender-gap-distinguishes-election-2000.aspx


89 posted on 05/08/2012 4:46:06 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: marstegreg; 9YearLurker
Would you also take away the voting rights of people 30 and under? I believe they broke for Obama in much larger numbers than women (60%).

You want to look at the percentages for how blacks vote—and maybe argue against allowing them to vote too?

Chill, people.

Did I say anything about taking the voting rights away from anybody?

No, I did not.

Instead, I merely corrected a mistaken assertion about men being the primary supporters of Obama -- in the voting booth, anyway.

I supplied some relevant facts to the discussion, not an opinion.

90 posted on 05/08/2012 5:03:58 PM PDT by okie01
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To: ansel12

I stand corrected. Truly amazing (to me, anyway). Thanks for the knowledge.


91 posted on 05/08/2012 5:31:38 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

Took me 30 seconds to think of two ways that could be abused to the detriment of the Republic.

Can you? Are you willing to try?


92 posted on 05/08/2012 5:35:35 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Islam: a transnational fascist government that demands worship.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

BTW, IR1.


93 posted on 05/08/2012 5:43:11 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Islam: a transnational fascist government that demands worship.)
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To: allmendream

Equal as people but not necessarily per office.

Ie there is one head of a household. Two heads constantly try to be in charge and it doesn’t work well.

The general problem is that men execute on logic, women execute on feelings. This is how government became to spend so much on unconstitutional ‘compassion” programs, and why we are where we are today. Many politicians have rode to office on the feelings of voters promising to do more charity with taxpayers money.


94 posted on 05/08/2012 5:50:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: ansel12

How are “they both to blame”?

Let’s try this again, ALL voters are to blame. Both men and women, young and old, black and white. All demographic groups carry the same burden for the result of elections. I was merely pointing out that you could just as easily blame another group much like the author blamed women. As I recall the youth vote heavily favored Obama as did the Catholic vote. Blaming one gender is very divisive when there is plenty of blame to go around. It seems the Reverend has bought into the “war on women” meme and chose to run with it. Here is the question we should really be asking, “Why is Reverend Peterson trying to prove that Republicans really DO have a war on Women????” Perhaps HE is the Obama supporter.


95 posted on 05/08/2012 5:53:33 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Everybody gets that one wrong.

I like counter-intuitive trivia and facts, and am kind of drawn to them.

Much of that interest is because of how the media and the system creates misleading memories and impressions, (and outright false history) to drive behavior, voting, tribal identity, dialogues and so on to shape our national direction.


96 posted on 05/08/2012 5:55:57 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: SaraJohnson

How are “they both to blame”?

Wow, you really hit the nail on the head! Bring on the Burkas!!!!


97 posted on 05/08/2012 5:56:14 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg

You just aren’t making sense, you compare a voting block that votes wrong to a voting block that votes right, and label them both equally at blame for the election result?


98 posted on 05/08/2012 5:59:29 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: SaraJohnson

Sorry, I ut and pasted the wrong comment...I believe this was yours

These guys will love Sharia!

Wow, you really hit the nail on the head! Bring on the Burkas!!!!


99 posted on 05/08/2012 6:05:13 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: ansel12

You just aren’t making sense, you compare a voting block that votes wrong to a voting block that votes right, and label them both equally at blame for the election result?

I give up!!!


100 posted on 05/08/2012 6:12:29 PM PDT by marstegreg
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