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Video - Women's Vote Was “One Of The Greatest Mistakes America Made”
Liberty.com ^ | 05/08/2012 | Liberty.com

Posted on 05/08/2012 12:52:59 PM PDT by Mich1193

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To: Doctor 2Brains

None of the men mentioned were solely voted into office by women, unlike Wilson whose voters and electors were all male. Instead of this divisive time-waster of a supposition, how about we concentrate on educating voters instead of blaming them for their DNA?


101 posted on 05/08/2012 7:31:10 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Wow....all I can say is wow. Yep, it’s all our fault. All us emotional women who are incapable of control. /s

Wouldn’t be that stupid people vote stupidly....naaa couldn’t be that.


102 posted on 05/08/2012 7:52:55 PM PDT by wyokostur
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To: Mich1193

God made Eve as helpmate to Adam, not as property.

This guy is a class A MORON.


103 posted on 05/08/2012 8:06:16 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: justiceseeker93

Thanks for the ping!


104 posted on 05/08/2012 9:08:05 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: SaraJohnson

It’s absolutely not unique. I guess you’ve never read a child support thread.


105 posted on 05/08/2012 10:09:42 PM PDT by Politicalmom (THIS IS NOT A GOP CHEERLEADING SITE!!!)
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To: Politicalmom

Thanks for the warning! :)


106 posted on 05/08/2012 11:05:01 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Shadowstrike

I guess Isaiah was an imbecile, too.

cf. Isaiah 3:12


107 posted on 05/08/2012 11:15:54 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Politicalmom
It’s absolutely not unique. I guess you’ve never read a child support thread.

Little wonder. Just as African Americans are, by and large, the most unapologetic racists in modern American society, so are American women, by and large, the most unapologetic chauvinists.

108 posted on 05/08/2012 11:26:41 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: SaraJohnson

See what I mean?


109 posted on 05/08/2012 11:32:58 PM PDT by Politicalmom (THIS IS NOT A GOP CHEERLEADING SITE!!!)
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To: Politicalmom

I rest my case.


110 posted on 05/08/2012 11:41:39 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: papertyger

Oh, please. You’re the one calling women names, and somehow I’m the chauvinist. You don’t know one thing about me. Get lost.


111 posted on 05/09/2012 12:18:20 AM PDT by Politicalmom (THIS IS NOT A GOP CHEERLEADING SITE!!!)
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To: Politicalmom
Oh, please. You’re the one calling women names, and somehow I’m the chauvinist. You don’t know one thing about me. Get lost.

I know you reject, out of hand, any generalized criticism of women while making generalized criticism of FReepers on certain threads. Is that not chauvinism, by definition?

As for "getting lost," I suggest it is you who should get lost if the only reason you come to FreeRepublic is to have your vanity stroked.

This is, and always has been, a site primarily occupied by discussion and debate.

112 posted on 05/09/2012 12:39:51 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Mich1193

My mother always said giving women the vote was the stupidest thing they ever did!


113 posted on 05/09/2012 12:58:23 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed
My mother always said giving women the vote was the stupidest thing they ever did!

With a hundred years of experience under our belts, I can only agree with your dear Mom insofar as they did so without altering the Constitution to restrain those proclivities common to women as they did with men in the original drafting of the document.

We would have been much wiser to set up a committee of successful, educated, civic minded women to advise on initiatives to protect the republic from unscrupulous women as an adjunct to the protections silently embedded by virtue of the Constitution's exclusively male oriented restraints.

As it stands, our laws laws and legal assumptions have become a very high defensive wall in an age of artillery.

114 posted on 05/09/2012 2:45:31 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Road Glide
WHOA WHOA ....WELL WRITTEN R/G every sentence a gem and right on target... You lad, along with 2nd Div Vet and I must qualify for the FREE REPUBLIC'S KINGS OF COMMON SENSE award...THE FREE REPUBLIC MAGI so to speak hahahahaaha. Brains reign supreme im our milieu. If only the dolts who share the planet with us would become wise enough to listen...
115 posted on 05/09/2012 3:54:41 AM PDT by jimsin
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To: SaraJohnson
These guys will love Sharia!

...so this nation endorsed 'sharia' before 1920? Amazing how many people are comparing this Nation to a Muslim state between 1776 and 1920...'taliban'...'burqua'...'sharia'.

Next you'll be critiquing Jesus Christ because He wasn't 'enlightened' enough to select any women as one of His disciples...

116 posted on 05/09/2012 4:04:46 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
The Viking symbol for the mother goddess was a set of keys.

She ran the household and held the keys.

The man was often out a Viking or fishing or off pasturing animals.

I am all for a division of labor - but to me that means that a woman is in charge of their area of responsibility.

And I am in charge of mine.

117 posted on 05/09/2012 7:31:40 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: ExGeeEye
BTW, IR1.

Ok, let's go all in w/Heinlein and make voting rights subject to military service. Only veterans get the franchise.

As far as "Took me 30 seconds to think of two ways that could be abused to the detriment of the Republic." would such "abuse be worse then the current system wherein we have a two party system where one party thinks that stuffing ballot boxes and cheating at the polls is acceptable practice for winning elections and the other party is too bashful to bring it up. Not to mention a court system that thinks requiring "photo ID" is too great a burden for disadvantaged voters to bear.

At the rate we are losing ground it won't be long before we have no Republic to defend.

Regards,
GtG

118 posted on 05/09/2012 9:04:29 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: allmendream

I have no problem with division of labor.

That is not in conflict with a single thing I stated earlier. But if you have a husband he’s the head of the house and if there is a conflict on something it is proper to defer to him, even if that means it’s not the decision you want. He may learn from a mistake that it’s wiser for him to listen to you on certain things because of it.

But you can’t have two people that are constantly at odds with each other on issues and continually fighting to get their own way. That’s not a working arrangement anybody wants to be in and that’s not the way a family works.


119 posted on 05/09/2012 2:33:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
Ok, let's go all in w/Heinlein and make voting rights subject to military service. Only veterans get the franchise.

It would be self-serving-- and wrong-- for me to agree with that.

(In Heinlein's universe, it was citizenship-- of which voting is only a small part-- that was contingent upon service. Also, there were avenues of service for civic-minded persons lacking the aptitude or physical condition for the armed forces.)

The question remains, from one Veteran Landowner to (presumably) another; how could land tenure as a condition for voting rights be abused to the point of (a) devolving the Republic into a feudal state or (b) diluting land tenure to the point where more people than now are eligible?

120 posted on 05/09/2012 4:46:35 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Islam: a transnational fascist government that demands worship.)
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To: papertyger

that was Isaiah’s opinion, not Gods.

Sorry.


121 posted on 05/09/2012 7:29:30 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Teams of men are Democrats: unions, public sector workers, socialist professors. Kennedy had nearly every Irish Catholic male in his east coast pocket. You might be right about Jimmah Carter tho.


122 posted on 05/09/2012 7:58:34 PM PDT by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: Shadowstrike
that was Isaiah’s opinion, not Gods.

You're right. It wasn't God's opinion, it was God's punishment.

Try reading verse 4.

123 posted on 05/10/2012 11:19:20 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: papertyger; All

ok, ya got me, I was just to tired to go get the Bible, which I admit was wrong.

I just don’t understand why, when things go’wrong’ the first thing most men (not me) want to do is take the vote from women, take rights from women, ect, ect.

The men of my family see the women as the HELPMATE that God created them to be. MEN made chatel of them, and men (and you know we do) always want to ‘control’ them.

Are some women silly? yes, of course they are

But, and it’s a big one, instead of blaming all our problems on women (all the way back to Eve) why don’t we men admit that ADAM was the biggest problem. HE was supposed to be the ‘head’ and HE didn’t say no.

I’m sorry, most of the women/ ladies I know are strong, God fearing PEOPLE who deserve the same rights that God gave to me, and I’ll fight any man who wants to turn them into Burqa wearing belongings.

As for those who say “women have gotten us every DemoRat President we’ve ever had”...you might want to look at the polling places, and see just how many men voted for Carter, Clinton, and our current Rat, Obama.

And that’s all I’ve got to say on the subject.


124 posted on 05/10/2012 7:20:27 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Shadowstrike
I just don’t understand why, when things go’wrong’ the first thing most men (not me) want to do is take the vote from women, take rights from women, ect, ect.

Because you drank the feminist kool aid.

How do you justify being critical of concluding something is wrong with most women, when you just did the same thing with "most men?"

Further, you can "helpmate" all you like, but that position is irrefutably subordinate, the precise thing modern women find offensive. Even Christian women are notorious for only following their husband's leadership when he's going in a direction they like. A Christian husband can not lead a Christian wife that refuses to follow.

Long story, short: you need an education in "what's wrong with women," because it is manifestly absurd to subscribe to the idea of gender equality, AND male villainy, while not having a equally developed theory of FEMALE villainy.

125 posted on 05/10/2012 8:21:42 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: papertyger

no, I didn’t drink the feminist kool aid, I just really believe that God ain’t gonna be too happy with men who keep demeaning His creation.

I happen to use my brain, not act like a neanderthal.

Sorry for those of you who haven’t gotten the memo.


126 posted on 05/10/2012 9:35:48 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Shadowstrike
I happen to use my brain, not act like a neanderthal.

No, you don't.

You have pursued a popular cliche' like a like a dog chasing a car. Once the car stops and you're left trying to figure out why it's not running away from you anymore, all you have left is to sit there and bark.

The fact that you have reverted back to a simplistic restatement of your original premise instead of answering the dilemma I presented to you proves you are NOT thinking, but rather relying on a shibboleth you've been so thoroughly indoctrinated with that you've mistakenly come to believe it is self-evident.

127 posted on 05/11/2012 2:21:04 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Mich1193

If there is a single nation where women can’t vote, that is NOT a third world hellhole, I would like to know which country it is. You look at the nations with the highest standards of living, and they don’t share Peterson’s view of women. (I guess he never heard of the Queen of the South).


128 posted on 05/11/2012 8:00:12 AM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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To: papertyger
Look, it comes down to this, I happen to see women as a gift from God, you and others like you do not, obviously. Don't tell me what I think buddy, or how I do it. I've got one Master, and He ain't you. You on the other hand appear to want to be someones Master. Just admit it, slavery, especially of women sounds like a good idea to you. I don't follow that thinking, and no I'm not going point for point with you. I don't have to. I've got my thinking, and you've got yours. Guess God will tell us which one of us is right when we meet Him.
129 posted on 05/11/2012 7:59:33 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Shadowstrike
I happen to see women as a gift from God, you and others like you do not, obviously. Don't tell me what I think buddy, or how I do it.

This would be funny if I didn't know you're being absolutely serious.

You can tell me what I think, but I'm somehow out of line for telling you what you think...Priceless!

Of course you're not going to "point by point" with me. You can't! But you're compelled to answer me anyway because "All the ways of a man [are] clean in his own eyes; but the LORD weigheth the spirits." (Pro 16:2) And your spirit is that of Job's comforters.

You have to double down on your cliche' because to admit it's failure is to admit you've been duped...and you're MUCH too smart for THAT!

130 posted on 05/13/2012 1:25:10 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: papertyger

Son, I feel sorry for ya, really I do.

The only reason I haven’t gone point for point with you, is you’re wrong, you know you’re wrong, but your “training” won’t let you admit it.

Like I said, God will tell us which is right. I think I am, so do you.

I’ll pray for the women in your family, cause if you really do feel this way...they must already live in hell.

And that, is the greatest pity.


131 posted on 05/13/2012 8:12:06 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Shadowstrike
The only reason I haven’t gone point for point with you, is you’re wrong, you know you’re wrong, but your “training” won’t let you admit it.

That makes as much sense as not feeding someone because you know they're hungry.

I've already demonstrated, by your own standard, that the God of the Bible punishes a people by putting women and children in charge, but somehow you've twisted that into a good thing.

So what kind of attitude would one expect to be held by people under such a punishment, yours or mine?

As for the women in my family: I've been married to only one, small business owning, professional woman, with more national awards of professional recognition than I can count, for the past twenty 24 years. Can you claim as much?

We've had HER mother living with us for the past eight years in a house we purpose built for all of us to live together, with her contributing one third of the price of the home. Does your MIL think that much of you?

MY mother moved a thousand miles ten years ago to be closer to us. What about yours?

I went to the other side of the planet to adopt our one and only daughter three years ago, which means I had to be vetted by not only our government, but by the government of her country of origin. What kind of scrutiny have you undergone as a prospective parent, or follow-ups afterward?

My daughter is known as "the little ambassador" at her preschool, because the owner of the school makes sure to introduce her to parents considering the school for their own kids. Can you boast as much?

The problem with people like you is you point to your garden full of weeds and call it good, because more crap is growing in it than a well tended garden. What you don't understand is allowing the naturally occurring weeds to grow doesn't add to the health of your garden: it takes away from it.

132 posted on 05/14/2012 1:16:26 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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