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The Gay Old Party: Have Republicans Given Up Fighting Gay Rights?
American Spectator ^ | May 09, 2012 | DANIEL ALLOTT

Posted on 05/11/2012 3:33:05 PM PDT by Steelfish

The Gay Old Party By DANIEL ALLOTT on 5.9.12

Have Republicans Given Up Fighting Gay Rights?

President Obama and his lieutenants aren't the only ones whose views on same-sex marriage are "evolving."

Republicans -- including prominent conservative office-holders, pundits and activists -- are increasingly endorsing key parts of the gay-rights agenda. What do former Vice President Dick Cheney, Governor Chris Christie, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, former Governor Sarah Palin, columnist Ann Coulter and anti-tax activist Grover Norquist have in common? They're all prominent conservatives, and they've all made overtures to the gay community.

Cheney publicly endorsed gay marriage years ago. In January, Christie appointed New Jersey's first openly gay Supreme Court justice. Priebus has done fundraisers with the Log Cabin Republicans, a gay rights group. Palin hinted that she supported repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." Coulter and Norquist sit on the advisory board of GOProud, a gay conservative advocacy group.

There have been noteworthy developments at the state and federal levels. In March, a majority of New Hampshire Republican legislators joined Democrats to reject a bill that would have repealed a gay marriage law and replaced it with civil unions.

And in 2011, New York legalized same-sex marriage with the decisive support of four Republican senators, marking the first time in the nation that a legislative body controlled by Republicans approved either same-sex marriage or civil unions. According to a recent Politico story, House Republicans have "quietly worked behind the scenes to kill amendments that reaffirm opposition to same-sex unions." Politico reporters interviewed House Republicans and found that gay issues "hardly register" with them.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


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1 posted on 05/11/2012 3:33:08 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

“Have Republicans Given Up Fighting Gay Rights?”

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I wholly reject the premise laid by this very distorted and loaded question.

Homosexuals have the same basic “rights” as normal people.

What “Republicans”, or more accurately conservatives, are fighting is the mainstreaming of a perversion that has been soundly rejected throughout human history.


2 posted on 05/11/2012 3:36:59 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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To: Steelfish

The GOPe would surrender on just about every issue if they thought it would make the leftists like them.


3 posted on 05/11/2012 3:37:24 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Steelfish

I sure hope they haven’t. The pedophiles are coming up to bat next! We’re “violating their civil rights” to molest, rape and murder children. We’ve got to fight against the liberal “anything goes” machine.


4 posted on 05/11/2012 3:39:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life. - Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
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To: Steelfish

If the democrat party is Sodom...
Is the republican party Gomorrah?...


5 posted on 05/11/2012 3:42:49 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Steelfish
Maybe we need a new party. The "Tareyton Party"

I'd rather fight than switch"

6 posted on 05/11/2012 3:43:59 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GeronL

repubs are the last, best hope for the hetero’s.


7 posted on 05/11/2012 3:44:09 PM PDT by brivette
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To: EyeGuy

There was a time when homosexuality was criminalized.

And if you engage in criminal behavior you normally will not be hired. At one time the American Psychiatric Association labeled homosexuality a mental disorder until the PC crowd came along. Those suffering from mental problems are denied rights accorded to sane people.


8 posted on 05/11/2012 3:44:45 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: EyeGuy
LOL!

Homosexuals have the same basic “rights” as normal people.

9 posted on 05/11/2012 3:45:35 PM PDT by Never on my watch (I'd rather light a candle than curse the flatulence.)
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To: Steelfish

Yes-—there are many Sandusky-types in the Republican party and press and Hollywood who will bribe to force their Satanic practices—as normal and “moral” which became evident in the Franklin cover-up.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Franklin-Cover-up-Satanism-Nebraska/dp/0963215809

True conservatives are fighting the homosexual paradigm which removes God given rights and replaces it with Rights from the State and arbitrary law (unjust).

The whole homosexual movement is to remove all sexual morality—rid the concept of God from the Constitution— which is the slippery slope to sodomizing boys like was normal for thousands of years and is normal in Afghanistan and other current cultures.


10 posted on 05/11/2012 3:45:52 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Steelfish

Romney wants Gay Couples to adopt children.

That in itself is an endorsement of Gay Marriage.


11 posted on 05/11/2012 3:47:07 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Steelfish
There was a time when homosexuality was criminalized.

And I fear there will be a time in the future when we lament that "There was a time when pedophilia was criminalized."

12 posted on 05/11/2012 3:48:20 PM PDT by Never on my watch (I'd rather light a candle than curse the flatulence.)
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To: Steelfish

I believe the GOP leadership is watching the party of the left leaning RINO’s die.

I don’t wish to belong to a party of cowards, who give up on what is right just to get votes from people who hate them to being with.

I will vote for Romney this time just to get rid of the Kenyan, but for me the GOP is dead.I’ve had enough.


13 posted on 05/11/2012 3:48:51 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: GeronL
The GOPe would surrender on just about every issue if they thought it would make the leftists like them.

They do not wear conservatism every hour of the day as the liberals do their socialist agendas. Sure, they will eventually cave on all things as the commies push & push & push until they win.

14 posted on 05/11/2012 3:54:42 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: Steelfish
"There was a time when homosexuality was criminalized."

It won't be long before speaking against it is criminalized, IMO.

15 posted on 05/11/2012 3:57:28 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Steelfish

“There was a time when homosexuality was criminalized.”

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Yes, the truly better days, when we actually made unapologetic moral judgments, for the greater good of our children, and society in general.


16 posted on 05/11/2012 3:57:50 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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To: hosepipe
If the democrat party is Sodom...
Is the republican party Gomorrah?...

Republicans vs. Democrats: Maybe A Dime's Worth Of Difference

~ Larry Elder, "The Ten Things You Can't Say In America"

17 posted on 05/11/2012 4:27:36 PM PDT by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Steelfish

Dan Quayle once stated that gays have enough rights. . and they do. The outlandish behavior that many of them exhibit in “Gay Pride” parades tend to bring down the anger and resentment of bullies and so-called macho men on their heads as well as other homosexual men who may not be “in your face”. Some gays don’t “ACT OUT”, and there is no call for anyone to act out.


18 posted on 05/11/2012 4:27:38 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: CatherineofAragon

“It won’t be long before speaking against it is criminalized, IMO. “

They’ll try, “hate crimes” is an effort, but, we have the 1st Amendment on our side and I think we’ll win.


19 posted on 05/11/2012 4:28:50 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: brivette

Well our nominee for president just said that he doesn’t support gay marriage but he does support their right to adopt and distort children.


20 posted on 05/11/2012 4:54:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Twinkie

Actually Unions have way too many rights..
They have a right to federal money..
The feds cannot build anything unless they give money to the Unions..
They have a virtual right to federal money.. and to State money on MOST STATES..
Even local money in many municipalities..

Unions have a right to your money.. this outrageous..


21 posted on 05/11/2012 5:13:43 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Steelfish

Those who only view it as a political issue, maybe some of them.


22 posted on 05/11/2012 5:15:52 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: EyeGuy

No one has a right to do what they cannot do.

Marriage has always been attached to male female relationships since Sodom and Gomorrah.

According to everyone in favor of it that I hear, the rationale for it is that “people should be able to marry whom they love”

In some cultures, who one loves has nothing to do with marriage. It has to do with establishing family ties and/or with begetting children. It also has to do with respecting and ennobling each sex with the intimate interaction of the other in a way that homosexual relationships just can’t do.

The physical, psychological, hormonal, brain structure complementarity (or differences that help the other to grow in their specific human nature) just isn’t there in the same sex relationship.

There are reasons that homosexual acts have been condemned to a greater or lesser extent historically.

Does not mean that we have to hate homosexuals or deny them equal rights. Prohibitions against marriage do not deny any homosexual their basic or equal rights. Any or all of them can marry a person of the opposite sex, just like a heterosexual.


23 posted on 05/11/2012 5:59:56 PM PDT by amihow
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To: EyeGuy

No one has a right to do what they cannot do.

Marriage has always been attached to male female relationships since Sodom and Gomorrah.

According to everyone in favor of it that I hear, the rationale for it is that “people should be able to marry whom they love”

In some cultures, who one loves has nothing to do with marriage. It has to do with establishing family ties and/or with begetting children. It also has to do with respecting and ennobling each sex with the intimate interaction of the other in a way that homosexual relationships just can’t do.

The physical, psychological, hormonal, brain structure complementarity (or differences that help the other to grow in their specific human nature) just isn’t there in the same sex relationship.

There are reasons that homosexual acts have been condemned to a greater or lesser extent historically.

Does not mean that we have to hate homosexuals or deny them equal rights. Prohibitions against marriage do not deny any homosexual their basic or equal rights. Any or all of them can marry a person of the opposite sex, just like a heterosexual.


24 posted on 05/11/2012 6:01:43 PM PDT by amihow
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To: EyeGuy

25 posted on 05/11/2012 6:05:22 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: hosepipe

Yesterday I said that it appears 0bomba is the mayor of Sodom and Romney is the mayor of Gomorrah.

How the GOP expects millions of people to vote for Robomney is beyond my comprehension.

BTW what do you think of this? Is it accurate? I don’t know how to post videos. I will watch it in a bit, am s’posed to be doing something else right now.

http://www.fox19.com/story/18305604/reality-check-why-all-rnc-delegates-are-free-agents-and-unbound

Reality Check: Why all RNC delegates are ‘Free Agents’ and unbound


26 posted on 05/11/2012 9:28:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: cripplecreek

He’s not the nominee yet. Note my comment above.


27 posted on 05/11/2012 9:30:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Unbound delegates may be a diversion of “the” point..
Republicans do not want a conservative..

They rejected all of them.. one by one sometimes not so “nicely”..
Republicans generally may be ...some kind... of corrupt..

They seem to WANT to run the inventor of Romney-care agianst the inventor of Obama-care..
To want differently is to want what republicans do NOT want..

The question most republicans refuse to ask themselves IS.....
Are YOU a republican?..

** Instead they mouth some cliche’ or mantra about what the republican party should be.. instead of what it IS.. Of course the voting mechanizm could be broken or corrupted.. But if it is (or not) the same question should be asked.. Many republican women are as effected by propaganda as democrat women are.. not all but many..


28 posted on 05/11/2012 10:04:12 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: hosepipe

I think perhaps you are seeing through jaundiced eye - historically, lukewarm milquetoste RINOs lose. Conservatives win. So many people - Rs - were not going to vote for McCain, not beacuse he’s conservative, but because he ISN’T. But once Palin was veep, the enthusiasm grew - becaucse of her. And she IS a conservative.

I think you underestimate the millions of people, Rs and Independents, who are waking up and want a real constitutional conservative.


29 posted on 05/12/2012 6:28:56 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

[ I think you underestimate the millions of people, ]

Or...... you’re over-estimating..

Occams LAw says we have now the Givernment we want and deserve..

I say, republicans have now the givernment they want and deserve.. in the House and Senate.. and probably the Supremes.. Kennedy and I think Breyer was selected by republicans.. the treasonous icehole, Bastiges..


30 posted on 05/12/2012 9:47:17 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: hosepipe

Professional politician, elite and DC insider Republicans are very, very different from us hoi polloi Rs, and I thank many of us hoi polloi Rs are sick unto death of the traitorours elites Rs.


31 posted on 05/12/2012 10:14:54 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: hosepipe; little jeremiah
Occams LAw says we have now the Givernment we want and deserve.....

Really? Is that why late-Georgian Parliaments were full of rotten boroughs and sinecure seats? I think not. I don't think you can say that England had the Partliament it "wanted" and "deserved". Otherwise, the English would not have reformed Parliament at all, but would in fact have been content with a 100-year continuation of Cromwell's loathed "Long Parliament".

Instead, Cromwell told them, "In God's name, go!!"

Kennedy and I think Breyer was selected by republicans.. the treasonous icehole, Bastiges..

Anthony Kennedy was appointed by either Reagan or Bush. Reagan, I think. AJ Breyer, though, was Bill Clinton's first appointment.

32 posted on 05/13/2012 12:20:10 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: GeronL
The GOPe would surrender on just about every issue if they thought it would make the leftists like them.

I don't think that's the case here. Gays have a ton of money, and they spend it on ..... their perversion and its political agenda.

They're determined to drown opposition to their agenda in homodollars, PR techniques, and if that doesn't work, intimidation and extortion.

They're very fond of going after the income sources of people who refuse their overtures. A softer version of the "bread or lead" overtures of South American narcoterrorists.

33 posted on 05/13/2012 12:27:06 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Uncle Slayton

Precisely


34 posted on 05/13/2012 12:51:20 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

When the people become corrupted can the givernment be far behind?..
They may be mirror images of each other..

England is corrupted by a socialist system because the people are corrupted not the other way around..
same with Nazi Germany, Russia and Italy and Japan in the early last century.. and did I mention Canada..
Look at South America.. and Africa is and remains off the hook..

The American people seem to be corrupted.. not the givernment..
Obama seems to be just punishment for murdering our babies..
How did it happen?... Giverment controlled education I suspect..
It didnt happen over-night... America has been methodically brain-washed..
The “people” are corrupt.. the givernment is the tail wagging the dog..

The solution would be get the federal givernment out of the education business..
And State givernments too as far as possible..
It could take many decades.. if even its possible..


35 posted on 05/13/2012 11:05:05 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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