Skip to comments.Three Bug Out Considerations You Probably Havenít Considered
Posted on 05/11/2012 9:21:41 PM PDT by Kartographer
For most preppers, the action plan for a TEOTWAWKI scenario can be neatly categorized into basically one of two categories: Bug in or Bug out. Many people live in rural areas with sufficient security and provisions to be able to go to ground in the event of a disaster and ride out the storm. Sufficient security might include bunkers, shooters, stockpiles of ammunition and weapons, spare parts, etc. Sufficient provisions might be enough food to get the defense force and extended family of the principal through to the harvest, and enough seeds to ensure that the harvest will feed the crew indefinitely. For many rural preppers, this scenario is an attainable goal. For many urban preppers, however, this goal could never be realistically accomplished. For that reason, we have to consider the possibility of bugging out. There are some relatively standard considerations that almost anybody with a functional brain housing group would think through prior to bugging out. Where am I going to get fuel? What type of vehicle do I need? How much food and water should I be taking with me? Where am I going? These are the basics of bugging out, and many of the conversations I see around the topic within the forums are geared towards that end. These are great considerations, and they need to be considered as a bare minimum before attempting a bug out. But, having experienced moving through combat zones for most of my adult life, Id like to offer some other considerations that may not be so obvious.
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I prepped for years and years, owned an emergency supply store, still have many #10 cans, several generators, solar power, a bug-out vehicle, weapons and various supplies. But I’m burned out now and lost the desire to survive in what we be for most of us impossible conditions (if it lasted more than a short time). More power to those of you who can continue the fight.
Let me know if you want to divest yourself of any of those assets.
What was used before vehicles? Horses and bicycles. If you are near a river or the coast, think about boats.
Considering there’s very little public lands these days, caches every mile or even a day’s distance is near to impossible. If I see someone digging and stashing something on my property, well, it wouldn’t be pretty.
To be honest, how many of us would make it more than a couple hours from home before passing out and calling it quits. I know I wouldn’t get far on foot and I can’t imagine anywhere else could be any better than right here. If nothing else, I have water and shelter.
Well, if it weren’t for a relative who is a single mother with six little kids just divorcing after DV and other incidents I would consider doing that. She’s gonna need them and will keep up the fight longer than I. But if I find some completely redundant stuff I will let you know.
If it gets to be bug-out time and you see a horse, better take a picture!
Might be the last time in your life you ever see a horse...
Well. once in a while after that you might see horse jerky, but probably never again a living, breathing horse!
For me, bugging in is much safer - low profile, good security.
Come on People!..get with the program!!!
‘lost the desire to survive’-—————
But if you were actually in a situation where the urge to survive were present, I think you might be surprised how much your desire to survive improves.
And you are ahead of the game of many already.
I’m a prepper, but I grow weary of these “Expert Rambos” talking about running to the wilderness in the event of trouble. If one TRULY believes in TEOTWAWKI, move today. Go live in the woods and prepare for the hoards that you believe will decend upon you.
I think a rational approach is to have (a) a good supply of food that is rotated and consumed regularly. (b) a nice selection of guns that are used and cleaned regularly. (c) a few thousand rounds of ammo. (d) a nice swimming pool to store a few thousand gallons of water (and to enjoy in case the world doesn’t come to an end tomorrow. (e) a shit load of gold and silver that you can pass on to your grandchildren....in case the world doesn’t come to an end. They’re gonna need the money to dig out of the debt we have burdened them with.
What worries me is not that the police/military will be patrolling and providing a moderate level of security or that they will disappear and be out of action. My concern is that the police will be completely out of the picture in terms of providing security but still attempting to enforce the law after any zombie/citizen encounters. I really don't want to have to go into a court and justify - George Zimmerman style - every decision I might have to make under pressure.
” My concern is that the police will be completely out of the picture in terms of providing security but still attempting to enforce the law after any zombie/citizen encounters “
A greater concern is that the police will be coopted into enforcing the draconian, irrational, edicts of governmental bodies which are only interested in governmental survival, to the detriment of the peons...
Post-Katrina New Orleans is an object lesson for us, on so many levels...
They can't do that now.
Once you get beyond traffic control and protecting politicians you are on your own.
The police are primarily trained and equipped to deal with the aftermath of crimes - not to prevent them or to keep the peace.
For the most part we are already on the honor system. Anytime in our recent history there has been a riot or mass uprising the police have been overwhelmed, Just think about the Watts riots but a million times larger.
If you're contemplating this possibility, there's a lot of info in "TC 31-29/A Special Forces Caching Techniques".
You might be right. 18 months ago I was in the ER choking on something and the will to live suddenly blossomed full bloom!!!
I hear ya and I know what you mean. I also don’t care to deal with what may come. But I also realize that last breath is not given up happily. I don’t know if you have ever been truly cold or truly hungry. I have. YOur brain changes. You become simple. You no longer care about ideals, principles, and politics or the future. There is no “we”. There is only “you”. You are like a lizard then. You only require food in and poop out and that is your entire purpose in the universe.
So, to me the purpose of “prepping” is to prevent myself from turning into that lizard even in the worst conditions. I want to maintain my humanity even while others around me are turning into lizards...even if it means I must kill lizards that were once humans.
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That looks a lot like FM 21-76. I’ve seen that for sale at regular bookstores.
Since one would want a hard-copy anyways, buy one there and pay cash...
Yeah, most people reading that probably think you're a wimp but I can relate. No problem for me to hike or bike on a level surface or normal road hills but last year I spent a couple hours trampsing in Arroyo country out west -- steep gulleys, rocky outcroppings and uneven dry creek beds. Two hours pretty much did me in. I was starting to get worried about getting back to the truck before dark or at all especially without much water on me. I have a new found respect for cross-country travel and carry a 2m ham transceiver now on similar adventures. Those places are the same ones where cell coverage is non-existent.
I have children...grandchildren...nieces with new babies...nephews...sister...brothers...
eventually families will become more and more important AGAIN and churches enrich more people thru fellowship...communities will come together, because they have too....
I would start organizing a resistance cell and then take aim at fixing the problem that created the disaster which is most likely from a political mistake.
If one does not desire to lead then find a person or a group willing to be shoved up front to incite fervor of retaking control of the country.
Actually its appears to me the best solution is to form a state militia, create a food warehouse, all those that receive from the food warehouse must participate in the militia be it a dishwasher or logistics or as a soldier.
If we don’t organize the bad guys will just group up and take away your fruits of success like grasshoppers taking from the ants.
Fortunately for me I have Sarah Palin who lives just down the road from me so I know who I would call first when the SHTF.
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