Skip to comments.Donít talk to your neighbors without reading this!
Posted on 05/16/2012 8:57:52 AM PDT by Kartographer
The problem with approaching neighbors (with whom you have varying levels of familiarity) and/or total strangers nearby, is that the likelihood that you will actually convince these people to make serious efforts to prep is, unfortunately, small. The unemployment rate may be awful and European economies may teetering be on the verge of a collapse that will start a domino effect, but the average American is more interested in keeping track of who is ahead on Dancing with the Stars. These types are sometimes referred to as sheeple, and they comprise the great mass of the American population.
So what happens if you fail to produce any changes in your neighbors preparedness level? Well, frankly, you have made it very obvious to everyone around you that your house is the neighborhood supply depo.t When an emergency occurs, your unprepared neighbors will view you as their source when they need anything if the emergency becomes very prolonged.
Even if nothing worse occurs, can you imagine the chants of Hoarder! Hoarder! from those standing on the street in front of your house? From their perspective, a hoarder would be anyone who was wise enough to put aside anything for hard times which they now want to share (in essence, a socialist mentality on steroids).
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Anyone reading these peoples post can easily pick-up the anger in many of them and you will see that its not just the Libs that are shocked and infuriated by preppers. Now some the Ill take what I want crowd when confronted will often back off saying things like I was just joking, but I dont believe it. When I read their post I cant help but think of this quote from one of my favorite westerns Open Range: Most times a man will tell you his bad intentions if you listen, let yourself hear. Ive heard their intentions and they arent good.
The third type that I warn about, but which are not discussed in the article are those who wish to bring Gods Armageddon into the discussion as if they know that it will be Gods will should some catastrophe befall us. They claim this despite the fact that the history of man is full of direr times which were caused by nature or man himself. History has shown us all too well that men do not need God to help them muck things up to a point were their fellows cry out for God to end it all and relieve them of their misery.
There will be many in this its Gods will crowd who will want to see you punished as they will see your prepping as you trying to dodging Gods punishment. This group along with the I dont prep, but you should share group will be among the first to report you and your hoarding to the powers that be in their efforts to make sure you too suffer just as they do. The first group because as I said they see you as trying to escape the rightful wrath of God (as if they know the Lords mind) and the second because you proved them wrong.
You can be fairly certain that all three groups will hate you as they will be quick to blame you for the troubles because in their twisted way of thinking your prepping brought the troubles and therefore you need to be punished for your transgression.
As the article points out you need to keep in mind that OPSEC is not just for your Lib neighbors many people that you may think of as being conservative thinkers will be just as dangerous.
We have talked a lot about safety in numbers and that is so true, just remember that not all enemies sail under their true colors.
Beware these people listen to their words carefully and Listen, let yourself hear. what they are saying.
My neighbor and I share storage space.
Went to Wal-Mart this morning to check out the “prepper foods.” If I can find them, so can my neighbors. Looks like nobody buys anything locallly but the milk additives. And I think I can get by without any Spiff-E-Whip.
Oh, I had a liberal “hoarding” money in a 401k when Obama was elected, and I told him that he was a hypocrite, and that I was betting against the markets supporting his 401K because Obama was going to trash all that ultimately. He looked at me and gave me a hypocrite capitalist lesson in the needs to save money, all the while attacking capitalists at the DNC and french kissing communists there.
Folkes in AMerica need to take their heads out of their a$$es.
“can you imagine the chants of Hoarder! Hoarder! from those standing on the street in front of your house? “
I hear that everyday
I’ve also seen “type 3” justifying their opposition to pre-trib rapture with “why should we escape God’s wrath when the rest of the world is going to suffer”.
When I broached the prepping/collapse subject with my lib-in-law (whom we’ve already decided we’re taking in post-SHiFT despite her libness),
her response was “well, then, we’ll all be in the same boat”.
I really couldn’t get any further clarification out of her as to why this was a “good thing”, or even an answer as to why she (and we, and everyone else) shouldn’t be prepared for it.
Would be followed quickly by the sounds of chambers being loaded and safety catches being switched to the "off" position. Anyone who fails to pay heed to that may well end up as part of the food supply.
Rules require this be posted anytime the subject of sharing info about your preps arises:
Twilight Zone - The Shelter
There are advantages to being semi-rural and knowing all the neighbors for that long.
You just have to give them a big ol’ wolfish grin, look them up and down and say that you are open to exploring all manner of maintaining your daily protein requirements.
Where do you hear it?
[ Even if nothing worse occurs, can you imagine the chants of Hoarder! Hoarder! from those standing on the street in front of your house? From their perspective, a hoarder would be anyone who was wise enough to put aside anything for hard times which they now want to share (in essence, a socialist mentality on steroids). ]
What is worse is when martial law breaks out and they give a deadline that really is a “deadline” for turning in your prepper food supplies. Then they go into every house and if they find any food in your house they WILL shoot you in the back of the head in your OWN backyard and if you are lucky they will bury you there, if you are not lucky the animals will eat you.
It is best to have two caches of food, one in the main pantry that can be “given up” and another hidden very very well than can be used to supplement the slop that they will be serving in the “government food lines”.
Although you should not eat very much of your own food, if everyone else is subsisting and you are thriving it will cast suspicion on you and “bullet to the back of the head” after they find the 500 cans of pork and beans you hid in the walls of your house.
This is assuming they have disarmed everyone before declaring martial law.
[ can you imagine the chants of Hoarder! Hoarder! from those standing on the street in front of your house?
Would be followed quickly by the sounds of chambers being loaded and safety catches being switched to the “off” position. Anyone who fails to pay heed to that may well end up as part of the food supply. ]
You may want to run that “additonal protein” through several chains of unreleated animal species before consuming it. I recommend grubs/maggots -> chickens ...
You wouldn’t want to catch “mad lib” disease.
I've been saying this for a while. You need some "giveaway" supplies and your deeper stores to be separate so that when the confiscators come by, give up the former and replenish it with the latter.
Same with firearms. A cheap pistol and a shotgun for giving to the confiscators, and keep your "good stuff" hidden better.
can you add me to the prepper list please.
A smart man wouldn't want to eat food that I was forced to give away.
Indeed, there IS that...
I had actually thought of starting a little business of encouraging other single women to do some prepping, but some of these same considerations—not trusting my neighbors—has made me hesitate.
A few years ago we got hit hard by a huge multi-day blizzard, very uncharacteristic for our area in the mid-atlantic region, and some people were stranded without heat or power for five days. I was one of them, but because I had adequate supplies of firewood, food, lighting, solar radio, drugs, cleaning supplies, water, weapons, batteries, etc., I was the only person who was comfortable. (OK, “comfortable” is too strong a term. But I did well and I could have lived that way for the rest of the winter.) A few of the neighbor ladies know that I’m the go-to person when their husbands are out of town and something has to be done.
I thought I could share some of my experiences and encourage more independence, which is not a concept many people in this area have. Could make a few bucks, too. Still, telling strangers that you’re prepared is a risk...
Would you care for some more beef and mushroom over noodles?
The first rule of Prep Club is: you do not talk about Prep Club.
Having said that, I fully acknowledge the usefulness of prepping.
The voices and others. They chant in a low moan; “Hoarder, Hoarder”.
They have dead eyes and a pungent odor.
Some times they chant “hoarder”. Sometimes other phrases such as “Got any spare change?”; or “Pay your fair share”; or even “Hope and Change”...
I agree with that. I also know I have been instructed to prepare and remain prepared.
Those are the ones I see!!!
Well at least your brain is safe. They don’t want any part of that.
I think the book “Wicked Plants” would be a good addition to one’s self-sufficiecy library. Just saying.
How can I cook my ribeyes without the whole neighborhood knowing?
The running generator will be a giveaway also.
I knew I bought those guns an ammo for some reason.
They'll have to pry those ribeyes from my cold dead hands!
God knows all things, but he gave man free will. If a man rapes a woman or kills another man is that God’s will or a man exercising his free will to do evil?
I agree with you God knows all things, but God does not order all things that men do. Otherwise there wouldnt be an evil act commit nor would we have free will.
I buy lots of the Walmart brand of canned mini-ravioli in the small and big cans. It's yummy, satisfying, cheap and will last a good while in sealed cans.
Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
>>The first rule of Prep Club is: you do not talk about Prep Club.<<
Exactly right. Even people you trust can, and most likely will, turn against you when the chips are down. It’s a razor thin veneer between civility and madness, and as we’ve seen recently in the US, it would only take Wal-Mart being closed for a day or so for things to go sideways very quickly.
I don’t even tell members of my own family the degree to which my wife and I are prepared. However, she, having the softer heart, would insist on as many people as possible coming to live with us when SHTF, most specifically the older children from her previous marriage (all in their 20’s and living on their own). I try to explain the danger in that, because they would tell others, who would tell others, etc - and before you know it, you’ve got 50 people in your yard all wanting a piece of what you’ve got. All because no one would listen to me for the last 2 years that serious things are coming down and it’s time to get ready.
I joke with her that I’m fully prepared to take my minor children and head into the woods alone w/ them if need be. She laughs because she knows I’m joking.
She thinks I’m joking anyway...lol. And I am.
But not really.
I will say that most Californians will talk about being prepared in an emergency.
In fact, our neighborhood has had meetings to discuss our preparations.
So any evil I do I am not responsible as God created that evil and ordained it to be committed?
My mind lives full-time in the gutter anyhow, but your statement made me LOL.
My lazy-assed, garage dwelling neighbor is 37 years old and lives with his mommy. He got a SS award for being “bipolar” (which IMO is a skittles and rainbows diseases that lawyers use to f#ck the system and profit).
Anyhow, I’m looking forward to watching his fat ass starve slowly if the SHTF. None of my neighbors know squat about my basement stash. If they figure it out and come for it, they’ll find out about the ammo stash shortly thereafter.
Please add me to the prepper ping list...thank you!
” can you imagine the chants of Hoarder! Hoarder! from those standing on the street in front of your house? “
That may be nothing more than poor English skills on the part of the crowd, coupled with the red light in the Author’s window...
We need to decide where Kartographer’s Gulch will be located.
I wouldn’t use that strategy. In a bad situation those with assets are the least valued, those with force most valued. In a ‘provider family’ the family leaders will be summarily executed and the rest will be asked to provide resources, assistance or drive the VBIED if they want the others to live. Saw that it in Iraq.
Anyone who takes the ‘giveaway’ tact will be seen as a provider and preyed upon relentlessly. Best to have a large family or a good co-survival/co-defense arrangement with their neighbors. When the gangs come you hit them hard with everything you have. That will make you known more for force than provisions. They’ll go elsewhere.
The reference was to “legitimate” authorities who are confiscating supplies and weapons “for the greater good”,
not to roaving gangs of thugs without the color of authority.
Somewhere near JRandomFreeper’s resturant would be a good place. “You kill it and he’ll grill it!”
Check most Prepper threads and you will see it. I’ve been harassed by those saying I want something bad to happen and if it does I should share my stores with the less fortunate. And if you look we already have two people claiming that any shtf is Gods will on this thread.
“My lazy-assed, garage dwelling neighbor is 37 years old and lives with his mommy. He got a SS award for being bipolar (which IMO is a skittles and rainbows diseases that lawyers use to f#ck the system and profit).” My wife has got a nephew and I have a “son-in-Law” that is like that.
I have co-workers I have tried to convince to “arm” themselves to no avail. If they show up at my door, I will have no pity for them.
Well, I’m not going to be selfish... they can have my food when I’m done with it.
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