Skip to comments.OíReilly And Trayvon Attorney Dissect Legal Impact Of Zimmermanís Medical Records Showing Injuries
Posted on 05/16/2012 6:12:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
On his show Wednesday night, Bill OReilly returned to the Trayvon Martin case in light of ABC News report that medical records support George Zimmermans account of scalp injuries and a broken nose. OReilly emphasized as he has in the past that the case should not be tried on television. He brought in Martin familys attorney, Benjamin Crump, to discuss.
Obviously, OReilly said, this new evidence points to a confrontation between Martin and Zimmerman. Furthermore, all the pundits who were quick to place guilt on Zimmerman, he said, are now being challenged by the medical report.
Crump agreed the case shouldnt be tried on TV, but said the medical records should be vetted properly. He went on to question why Zimmerman, if hed sustained serious injuries, would have declined medical attention following the incident. OReilly agreed that the prosecutor needs to cross-examine going on to mention Martins autopsy, which said Martins knuckles were scraped. (NBC News report notes it was, a small abrasion, no more than a quarter-inch in size on his left ring finger below the knuckle.)
Without eyewitnesses, OReilly said, its very difficult to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, second-degree murder based on racial profiling. Crump urged the need to put everything in the full context. There are different versions of his account, Crump said. They hopefully are going to come out. He went on to say that if Zimmerman had stood down, thered have been to need for him to stand his ground referring to Floridas Stand Your Ground law, which allows acting in self-defense if theres a reasonable belief of threat.
The two agreed on one thing: we shouldnt be jumping to any conclusions, especially not without taking a look at all the evidence in context.
Take a look at the segment, via Fox News:
(VIDEO AT LINK)
Sounds like a reasonable attempt to assess the situation.
Were there any injuries to the trayvon teenagers gold teeth.
There,fixed it up for Mr O'Reilly.
BOR is Blaming the Victim, plain and simple.
If the Police don’t report to a call, no one would get hurt. If people didn’t watch their neighborhoods, there would never be any confrontation (yeah, okay).
BOR is an Idiot and he’s afraid to speak the Truth. He get this Medical Report stating Black Eyes, swelling, lacerations, a Broken Nose, and a head injury - along with Trayvon’s knuckles - and he says it looks like there could’ve been some kind of confrontation.
No, it’s clear one person was attacked and they defended themself.
Remember when Ted Baxter wasn’t going to cover this because it shouldn’t be tried on Televison? That was when Crump was going on MSNBC, CNN, and ABC. When they took the booking - suddenly O’Reilly says it’s too important not to cover. What a POS.
If there was a Video of the brutal attack, BOR and Crump would say well, we don’t know that Zimmerman didn’t say something to enrage Trayvon. They are refusing to see the Evidence clearly before them.
The New York Times buried in their story tonight that George Zimmerman passed a Lie Detection test administered by the Police. Oh, BOR couldn’t be bothered to read that far.
Yep, if there's one thing that Crump is, it's reasonable.
Sharp as a cue ball.
"Welcome to the party, pal."
Actually, he just needed George's arrest to file a tort. The tort standard of proof is a preponderance of evidence, a lower standard than reasonable doubt.
If Mr. O’Mara uses “Stand Your Ground” successfully a lawsuit is not possible. Read it and see.
Yep, if there’s one thing that Crump is, it’s reasonable. He’s reasonably sure his client is black, and the defendant
is white. So he is guilty as charged, let the sentencing begin. Lawsuits to follow! That is reasonable in his mind, not mine!
“Crump is the family lawyer, not a prosecutor. He doesnt need to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt when it becomes lawsuit time.”
He doesn’t even need to prove that: In a civil case the standard of proof is by a “Preponderence of the evidence,” not the “Beyond a reasonable doubt” required in a criminal case.
One of my joys in life is not tagging sarcasm, especially with newbies.
Somehow there is some huge piece of evidence missing that disputes everything else that’s come up. Until that evidence is revealed, we must not jump to conclusions. \sarc
We won’t know that until the trial, which I predict won’t even happen this year.
IMHO, no,....... we can't. It's not allowed.
IMHO, no,....... we can't. It's not allowed.
You sure throw that newbies title around pretty recklessly.
A confession by Mr. Zimmerman, in Spanish, that he actually profiled poor little Trayvon?
Nuts, you’re right, I read May 16, 2012, and it’s May 16, 2011, my bad. I need glasses, it’s been a year.
I am incorrect. You are just fine, it is I who am wrong.
I’ve requested my last post be removed.
It’s been a real bad week.
What's next, muggers suing the victim for not backing down, and therefore forcing the mugger into violence?
I doubt that there will be any ‘burning of America’.
Sad to say, most blacks who would do the burning follow the racebaiters, and before May rolls around this case will be all but forgotten. The evidence, at worst case, is inconclusive, best case clears Zimmerman 100%, almost makes him a hero.
Racebaiters are being forced to wait for some new situation.
Or it was Trayvon that should have stood down - and no need to shoot him.
I can't spell the guy's name, but Mumia, or whatever, shot a cop in the head point blank, and there are large numbers of people think he is innocent and want him freed, even today. He hasn't been executed, IMHO, because of the inevitable bloodshed if he is killed. That was decades ago.
Zimmerman is guilty because they said so and it will never change if he is exonerated by 10 courts.
If the trial lawyer believes that the case should not be tried on television, why is he on television, trying the case?
“Obviously, OReilly said, this new evidence points to a confrontation between Martin and Zimmerman.”
No. It was always obvious that there was a “confrontation.” The evidence “points to” the fact that Martin confronted Zimmerman by breaking his nose and beating his head against the sidewalk while Zimmerman screamed for help. There is no evidence that Zimmerman confronted Martin or bruised his own knuckles on Martin’s face. No amount of “vetting” the evidence will change the facts.
No, with the SYG law Zimmerman has to be bound over for trial before there can be a civil suit. That hasn't happened yet.
The Judge very well could throw out the case for lack of evidence.
Notice how no one in the mainstream media has come out and stated the obvious - it looks like Zimmerman was attacked and beaten badly.
Instead, it’s - What does this mean? We still don’t know what happened.. This is just a fraction of the evidence.. There are still more questions than answers...
BS... Zimmerman was set upon and pummeled and the medical reports show that.
The Media just refuses to tell the Truth.
Thank you for the correction. I had thought that an arrest nullified Florida's SYG protection from tort.
This makes Corey's actions that much more reprehensible as she is trying to expose Zimmerman's assets to impoverish him, leaving him unable to pay for a proper defense. Crumps interest in Zimmerman's assets is for seizure not flight while on bail.
She had several news conferences with the Traytable Martin family standing next to her. She is working for the race pimps. She has to get it to trial so they can sue. They couldn't care less if he gets a not guilty verdict.
I agree, a "no bill" would have finished Corey on the spot.
She is hoping she can buffalo a judge into binding him over for trial.
They couldn't care less if he gets a not guilty verdict.
Again I agree, Corey has a much better chance with a pliant judge than she does stacking a jury. A trial may have a change of venue and jury pool, and the tort would more likely be local with a better chance of a cash win.
I thought the message from crump was the doctor may be lying.
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