Skip to comments.Today's Buzz: Are Zimmerman's injuries a game changer?
Posted on 05/17/2012 12:59:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
ABC-TV news reported this week that George Zimmerman had a broken nose, two black eyes and lacerations on the back of his head the day after his fatal confrontation with 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. ABC said it had obtained a medical report that documents Zimmerman's injuries. The injuries could back up Zimmerman's claim that he was defending himself from an attack by Trayvon when he pulled the trigger. Florida's stand your ground law allows people who feel threatened by death or serious injury to respond with deadly force....
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Fascinating. I’ll be watching. Thanks.
The only game change is the constant race baiting by a dying press looking for any advantage to incite violence by constantly planting seeds which will bear your vaunted and sought after fruits this summer....October at the latest.
The parents made some big bucks and are happy and Zimmerman and family will be forever scarred by the dumb little skittle dealing punk.
You better believe that’s what’ll happen.
Barrytard will go TV and give a speech about race and slant it so it benefits the rioters who will only need a minor Que the burn, slash and shoot anyone they get to.
Reginald Dennis will be nothing compared to what they will do this time and they have sitting around watching how much of a pass OWS has been getting and they have come to the conclusion they will get a pretty good pass as well.
Facts are irrelevant. This is purely a political case.
If Zimmerman's name had been Jorge Zapata or some other Hispanic sounding name he never would have been selected as the poster boy for evil white racism.
I think Trayvon’s injuries are the game changer, the beat up knuckles from beating on someone
Hmmm... So the kid was a pothead. seems like he could have an adverse reaction to it that made everyone spooky to him.
Same as well musing with someone when yer drunk. Yuice Got Tuh Takez yer lumps.
I always suspected that this was why the autopsy had been kept under wraps so long. Martin went for a Skittles run because he was stoned and had the munchies.
I know but what if Z is pardoned prior to Holder bringing the Fed charges...shoots Holder’s agenda full of holes.
He’d go with the charges anyway.
It would be a good test of 10th Amendment.
I’d sort of like the trial to [proceed, althouth preferably after the November elections, just to clear the air as to just what that fresh-faced, smiling 14-yr. old Trayvon was doing prior to his assaulting Zimmerman, plus the fact that the 911 operator/dispatcher did not order or demand that Zimmerman cease surveillance of the person of interest. In response to Zimmerman’s question, he was told, “No, we don’t need you to do that.” Zimmerman, as I interpreted what then occurred, did cease said surveillance, turned and headed back to his auto.
That isn't self defense.
The injuries George and Treyvon received are consistent with George being fearful for his life if the fight continued - but they do not determine who initiated the confrontation.
All posters saying this proves that Treyvon started the fight.... how?
If the case continues it will be based upon who started the fight to establish self defense - not who was losing the fight.
It’s obvious that Mr Zimmerman tried to beat the poor candy carrying child to death with his face.
How very clever of him.
>>Id sort of like the trial to [proceed<<
Unfortunately, if the case goes to trial, and Zimmerman is found not guilty, Trayvon’s family can still hit him, the condo association, etc. etc. with a suit for civil damages.
If the case gets thrown out by the judge, FL’s self-defense law (AKA the Stand Your Ground statute) makes Zimmerman immune from civil suits.
That isn't self defense.
Can you cite statutes or rulings in support of this claim? (I'll stipulate that who started the fight is relevant to whether one believed one's life was in danger.)
That isn't self defense.
That is true. However, it is not up to Zimmerman to prove that he didn't start the fight - it is up to the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman started the fight in order to negate any self-defense claim by Zimmerman. So far, the evidence appears to point toward Martin being the aggressor, but the state probably cannot prove who started the fight one way or another. In this case, that favors Zimmerman, because legally, he doesn't have to prove anything.
One(1) graze on one(1) knuckle of one (1) hand. You really think that can be played into a savage attack?
The State has one heck of a case in front of them and a high hurdle of evidence to clear - because so far there have been no reports of any witnesses to who initiated the fight. We have the interview of George after the fact - and Treyvon - the only other witness - is dead.
I am sure much hay will be made of - and straw attempted to be spun into gold with - the ‘not getting away again’ quote from George - and the ‘you don't need to do that (follow him)’ from the dispatcher.
What evidence points towards Martin being the aggressor?
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