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Hawaii won’t send official confirmation of Obama’s birth to Arizona because it can’t
coachisright.com ^ | May 20, 2012 | George Splevin, staff writer

Posted on 05/20/2012 8:10:36 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett is saying he is “stunned” that after eight weeks election officials in Hawaii still have not provided him with even so much as an Email confirming they have proper documentation on record regarding Barack Obama’s official birth certificate.

Because of their lack of official reply, Bennett is considering keeping Obama off of the Democrat ballot in Arizona! “For some reason they haven’t been willing to say yes,” the AZ SoS told radio talk show host Mike Broomhead.

Bennett said he’s received over 1,200 Emails from his state’s citizens asking him to require Barack Obama to produce an original birth certificate. “This is impossible to get,” because states only provide certified copies of the original document.

But the State of Hawaii apparently won’t even do that or even Email confirmation according to their new rule changes. “Hawaii can’t or won’t answer. . .do you have a birth certificate for this guy?” Bennett said.

In reply to Broomhead’s question: “Will you exclude the President from the ballot?”, the AZ official said that is a possibility, or he may ask all candidates to submit valid birth certificates. When CIR called both Bennett and his communications director, they both were either not at their desks or not in the office.

A commenter on this story said, “Why can’t this guy produce the real documents, college records, etc. Is he afraid to show he received financial aid as a foreign student?”

Florida‘s eligibility challenge is still alive with Attorney Larry E. Klayman representing Citizen Mike Voeltz in a case that already has gone through 19 preliminary motions, hearings, and filings, since being put on the docket of Judge Terry Lewis on 2-15-2012. Case No. 37 2012 CA 000467 has eight different attorneys…….

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; naturalborncitizen; obamasbirth
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

ce n’est pas probleme


51 posted on 05/20/2012 2:10:28 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ladyjane

Dead on the money ladyjane. That is just the reason I believe for the ‘conservative’ talking heads not following up on anything on this and slamming the ‘birthers’ for 4 years. The PTB probably sent ‘em all a copy of the Zapruder tape with a little note: “We took out the most powerful and protected man on earth in 1963, an American president. You and your little pissant families would be child’s play. You WILL NOT speak of this subject on your little radio and TV shows. Got it? Any questions? No? Good. Remember.......you are being watched”.


52 posted on 05/20/2012 2:27:09 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired high up in the mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: sten

[sources i reviewed stated he was born on the US base, which would be US soil.]

He was born at the public hospital in Colon about 1.5km from the PCZ. The naval hospital wasn’t built until a few years later.


53 posted on 05/20/2012 2:39:14 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: jmaroneps37
But the State of Hawaii apparently won’t even do that or even Email confirmation according to their new rule changes.

Hawaii's rules are irrelevant when it comes to official requests from other states.

Article VI Clause 2:

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

Arizone has "full faith and credit" to ask for the public records of Hawaii.

Article IV Section 1:

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

Unless Congress has acted to define how the records are shared, Arizona is entitled to access to Hawaii's public records so that Arizona can comply with its own state's election processes.

-PJ

54 posted on 05/20/2012 2:51:51 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: houeto

“ce n’est pas probleme”

Thank you again.


55 posted on 05/20/2012 2:58:20 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: bjorn14

“He was born at the public hospital in Colon about 1.5km from the PCZ. The naval hospital wasn’t built until a few years later.”

Thank you bjorn14.

There are few of us here who know the real story.

Refreshing indeed.


56 posted on 05/20/2012 3:01:01 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
LOL. I don't know why I am having this conversation with you. Based on the Tribe/Olson opinion, which was commissioned by the Senate, they passed resolution 511 declaring that McCain was eligible to be President. Guess what? McCain was on the 2008 ballot for President.

I suggest you google Ted Olson and Lawrence Tribe to see who they are. Their opinion has far more weight than yours.

FYI: I have lived 25 years of my adult life abroad. You need to get better informed.

57 posted on 05/20/2012 3:06:57 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Joshua Marcus; SevenofNine; W. W. SMITH; tumblindice
Dude. What's up with the attack posture all the time.

SevenOfNine is decidedly an odd poster, I suspect she's a foreign national here in America. She is most famous in the earlier days with uttering "RRRRAAAAAACKKKK ITTTTTT" quite often ....

But that's not the point. How are you going to sign up just recently and come out swinging against so many people? Are you itching to be banned or somethin'?

58 posted on 05/20/2012 3:18:08 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The so-called 'mainstream' media has gone from "biased" straight to "utterly surreal".)
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To: bjorn14

ok, so not on American soil. of course, it becomes a grey area if there was no location on US soil to be born (well, without proper facilities that is). and since the US govt asked both parents to be stationed there... tough call on whether or not to allow for the technicality. grey area.

but both parents were US citizens at the time.

0bama is different. potentially being born on US soil... BUT... only ONE citizen parent. not much room for a grey area.

if he is allowed... you might as well let arnold or miley cyrus on the ticket.


59 posted on 05/20/2012 3:21:20 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: kabar

Ah yes….one last comment from me to you….

LOL!!!

Ted Olson is the idiot who was married to our wonderful Freeper sister, Barbara Olson (BKO|), who perished in the plane crash against the Pentagon on 9/11.

He is now out of the closet as a full-blown leftist (which he always was).

For quoting people, your choices are truly remarkable.


60 posted on 05/20/2012 3:23:41 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: kabar

P.S.

“FYI: I have lived 25 years of my adult life abroad. You need to get better informed.”

Apparently you didn’t learn anything. But that happens all the time.

Lost time on your part.


61 posted on 05/20/2012 3:28:57 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

LOL. Whether you like it or not, Olson’s opinion carries and has carried more weight than yours. That is a simple, demonstrable fact. You don’t have to agree with his opinion, but the political elite do. Go back to sleep under your Mango tree in Panama.


62 posted on 05/20/2012 3:30:29 PM PDT by kabar
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“And what if Barack H. Obama I is NOT his father?....”

We can play the “what if” game forever or til you run out of wild speculations.......

Sorry, but Barack is hiding in plain sight, just like the pink elephant in the parlor.

I will believe that Barack carried his father’s name throughout his life (except the period when he used his adoptive father Leto’s)for a reason, wrote book’s about “Dream’s from my Father” for a reason, and has presented to the world a BC that show’s BO Sr as his father. Why should doubt him? The reason is BO’s father is BO Sr.

Barack is ineligible to hold the Office of POTUS. All the evasions, lies, misdirection ect. won’t change the fact that he is not a Natural Born Citizen. “Yeah but, uh, uh, uh”....doesn’t cut it.


63 posted on 05/20/2012 3:44:12 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: bobby.223

The local talk show host was big into the birth certificate issue. One day, abruptly, all talk of the BC ended with an announcement that it was no longer a topic of discussion. If anybody tried to bring it up, and many did, the call was quickly ended.

The reaction of the talk show host was such that it seemed not about losing a job but personal safety. That was my take on it anyway.


64 posted on 05/20/2012 4:10:21 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: jmaroneps37

Bottom line: is Arizona “red” or “blue”? If the former, then the Obama has no need to burn the political capital just to lose the state anyway. If he’s not gonna win it, spin it.


65 posted on 05/20/2012 5:33:38 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

The quandary is making Arizona satisfied without saying anything which could be construed as perjury. “Anything you say can and will be used against you...”


66 posted on 05/20/2012 5:37:13 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Well, ain’t that just awkward.


67 posted on 05/20/2012 5:40:03 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

McCain’s Natural born Citizen status is a red herring. It does not apply to Obama because McCain was born to two citizen parents. The problem as far I can see is that the two Citizen requirement is not that clear. This is why if we accept for the moment his birth in Hawaii, he can maintain that he is a Natural Born Citizen. And there are courts who would rule in his favor.

HOWEVER, there is no debate of the following >>>>>>>>.

If Barrack Hussen Obama was in fact born in Kenya to a non a US Citizen Father, there is no way even the far left could successfully argue that he could be a Natural Born Citizen.

So IMHO we need to keep focusing on the birth certificate.


68 posted on 05/20/2012 8:19:25 PM PDT by Save-the-Union
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To: Forty-Niner

You can believe what you want, but I can’t forget the nude pictures of Stanley Ann taken the month she became pregnant with her son. Don’t forget that Frank Marshall Davis was a professional photographer and had the means to develop his own film (the Commie newspaper where he worked). Had he dropped that film off at the local drug store they would have called the police on him. The time frame fits perfectly with the pornographic novel he published about seducing a white girl named “Anne”. Only the girl’s age and the spelling of her name were changed.


69 posted on 05/21/2012 4:02:53 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Forty-Niner
Frank Marshall Davis photos Scroll down. I've seen these photos before (without the black modesty tape). The reason I can date them is that there are Christmas decorations visible in the background of one of them. I've never seen the one with the 2nd woman before, and I wonder if that is Davis' wife -- the Chicago socialite? She looks a litle bit like her. I think her name was Virginia. She was supposed to have been involved in the seduction of the teen described in "Sex Rebel - Black", Davis' scurrilous book. BTW, I knew nothing about this movie which bolsters my suspicions. I've come to these questions as a result of reading a great deal about BHO from many different sources.
70 posted on 05/21/2012 4:19:01 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Forty-Niner

Note Christmas decor. Picture was taken in Frank Marshall Davis' home in late November, or early December of 1960. Obama was born August 1961.

71 posted on 05/21/2012 4:51:46 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: ladyjane

Then they should keep their mouths shut on the subject and don’t give an opinion at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdYoyp-mVnM&feature=related


72 posted on 05/21/2012 11:40:54 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: sten
That is your opinion. However, I take natural born to mean a citizen from birth as opposed to a naturalized American Citizen. What you are attempting to portray is a 3rd category of American citizen. You are taking the Birther situation to a new length to say that even if Obama was born in the USA, he is not American enough. In the case of someone who was raised by a disgruntled American in about as foreign an environment as one could get, I see the point, though not the rationale. The electorate bears a responsibility to elect someone who will reflect strong American Values. Rubio on the other hand was born in the USA, raised in the USA and is a 110% Patriot. I frankly think this argument is intended to keep Rubio out despite having let Obama in.
73 posted on 05/25/2012 1:16:05 PM PDT by jbits
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To: jbits

my opinion ... and that of the founders. it was discussed in the federalist papers and the reason the language was changed from simply ‘citizen’ to ‘natural born citizen’

their intention, again, as stated by the founders, was to insure that the person who would assume the office did no have simple allegiences, at least by birth

the term was not invented by the founders. it was in common use then, as well as today.

sorry if that ruins your bliss


74 posted on 05/25/2012 1:53:04 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: jbits

“did not have split allegiences”

damn auto correct


75 posted on 05/25/2012 1:56:47 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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