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NBC's Savannah Guthrie Unintentionally Proves Obama Birth Certificate Tampered With (pencil marks)
BirtherReport.com ^ | May 23, 2012 | Mark Gillar

Posted on 05/23/2012 12:55:05 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

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To: Fantasywriter

Amazing! More ranting, and still not a hint of a reliable source.

You know, if you had such a source, you could save yourself a lot of barking and foot-stamping.

But please, continue. The heat-instead-of-light approach is good entertainment.


121 posted on 05/24/2012 10:54:25 AM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: BigGuy22

Tell the truth. Were you sad when Obama ‘missed his cue’ to come onstage last night?

Oh wait, ‘missed his cue’ is a misnomer. He was nowhere to be found for way too long for it to be a simple ‘missed cue’. Where was he? What delayed him? Maybe he found a “little blow”. Maybe somebody told him he’s trailing Romney in key states, and Obama’s knees gave out. Maybe he spotted a cute guy that reminded him of Larry Sinclair. Who knows?

Help me out, please, BigGuy II. What really is the biggest lie Obama has told in the past five or so years? There are so many, I can’t decide. Got any input that might be useful? I’m all ears.


122 posted on 05/24/2012 11:06:06 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Miss Behave

Well, thank you. What a nice reply.


123 posted on 05/24/2012 11:08:40 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: MrShoop
National Review doesn't want to get rid of Obama? Suuure. All their writers are covering up for Obama - Mark Levin, Victor Davis Hanson, Frank Gaffney, Dennis Prager, Thomas Sowell. Mark Steyn. Those guys are all RINOs..

Nathan Goulding was the author you linked to not any of those guys.

124 posted on 05/24/2012 11:12:45 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Fantasywriter

“Were you sad when Obama ‘missed his cue’ to come onstage last night?”
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So the new tactic is changing the subject?

You made an assertion about Hawaiian COLBs and I asked you to provide a reliable source for it. Remember that?

I’m still waiting.


125 posted on 05/24/2012 11:15:05 AM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: MrShoop
If you believe the certificate is fake, do you think that the Governor of Hawaii and Director of Health and State Registrar are all in on it?

Ah, yes, a poorly crafted "are you still beating your wife?" question. Flaunting your stupidity in public won't get you anywhere.

126 posted on 05/24/2012 11:15:38 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: BigGuy22
LOL -- Zullo's your reliable source?

Why do you find that amusing? ARE YOU A MORON?
127 posted on 05/24/2012 11:19:54 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Attempting to ascertain or condemn the accuracy of any content of a PDF by means of the manner in which the file was saved is meaningless.

Perhaps so. You didn't watch the demo did you?

A PDF, again, is merely a document file type, one of many.

Well, duh.

It is not automatically a scan of anything and it is not “fake” or a “forgery” if it isn’t.

No one has said it was.

It’s not automatically authentic or valid if is a scan.

No one has said it would be.

Nice bunch of Red Herrings you tossed out there. lol

128 posted on 05/24/2012 11:23:23 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: BigGuy22
We never talk anymore.

Okay, here's the thing. I really do wonder what Obama’s all time biggest lie has been/is. However, at the moment there's something I'm wondering about even more. Was Obama lying when he said he was born in Kenya, or when he said he was born in HI???

Right now, I'm leaning toward ‘both times’. That would fit the profile of a pathological liar. However, there's always the possibility he told the truth about Kenya and lied about HI. Wouldn't that be interesting? I've been confident from day one we'd find out sooner or later. Meanwhile, place your bets. Which is it:

Kenya?

Hawaii?

Or somewhere else altogether?

129 posted on 05/24/2012 11:25:05 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Brown Deer
"Why do you find that amusing? ARE YOU A MORON?"
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Apparently your reading comprehension is poor. I would direct you to my previous response, but just in case you can't find it, I'll repeat the relevant passage for you:

"When controversial issues arise and facts need to be determined, one looks to sources that are not closely associated with either side of the controversy.

"Zullo, of course, doesn’t come close to fitting that description."

130 posted on 05/24/2012 11:27:25 AM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: Brown Deer

“LOL — Zullo’s your reliable source?”

‘Why do you find that amusing? ARE YOU A MORON?’

No, actually he’s a joke. His answers have revealed this. The only good thing to do w a joke is play w it, laugh at it, and have some fun.


131 posted on 05/24/2012 11:28:29 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

“We never talk anymore.”
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LOL, did we ever? I asked you a question, and you still haven’t answered it.

But I’ll give you a freebie just cause I’m a nice guy.

With regard to Pres. Obama’s birthplace, I have no personal knowledge of where he was born. But absolutely all of the legally competent evidence says he was born in Hawaii.

That conclusion can be rebutted by a legal determination that he was born elsewhere. Feel free to pursue it.


132 posted on 05/24/2012 11:33:08 AM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: BigGuy22

Oops, I left off Asia. Obama also claimed to be born in Asia, so that should have been on my list.

Which reminds me of a joke I heard. A Kenyan, a Hawaiian and an Asian walk into a bar. The bartender looks up and says, ‘Hi, Obama. What’ll it be?’


133 posted on 05/24/2012 11:34:47 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter; MrShoop

Here is the actual story, even the reporter says that Abercrombie is talking about the State Archives:

Q: You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plans to release more information regarding President Barack Obama’s birth certificate. How is that coming?

A: I got a letter from someone the other day who was genuinely concerned about it; it is not all just political agenda. They were talking on Olelo last night about this; it has a political implication for 2012 that we simply cannot have.

(Abercrombie said there is a recording of the birth in the State Archives and he wants to use that.)

It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down ...

...What I can do, and all I have ever said, is that I am going to see to it as governor that I can verify to anyone who is honest about it that this is the case.

If there is a political agenda then there is nothing I can do about that, nor can the president.”

http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorials/20110118_This_is_a_collaborative_endeavor.html?id=114049174

Here is what Abercrombie said about him releasing a copy of the BC:

“Pressed on whether he might unilaterally release a copy of Obama’s actual birth certificate, Abercrombie made clear that he is waiting for his cabinet officials to give him a report on what he can legally do before proceeding.”

“Obviously, I’m going to do what is legally possible,” the governor said.”

http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/27/governor-vows-to-end-birther-controversy/

He later found out he could not legally release the BC.

“State Attorney General David Louie told the governor he can’t disclose an individual’s birth documentation without a person’s consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said.

“There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document,” said Dela Cruz. “Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president.”

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/114401004.html?id=114401004

And here is what Mike Evans said, and then retracted,

“Evans told KQRS on Jan. 20:

“Yesterday, talking to Neil’s office, Neil says that he searched everywhere using his powers as governor ..... there is no Barack Obama birth certificate in Hawaii. Absolutely no proof at all that he was born in Hawaii.”

But that’s no longer Evans’ story.
“Only this I can you tell you is 100 percent fact: that Neil never told me there was no birth certificate,” Evans told Fox News. “I never talked to him.”

Last week’s radio interview was part of Evans’ syndicated five-minute feature, “On the Road with Mike Evans,” which is broadcast on 34 stations across the country each morning.

On the morning of Jan. 20, Evans says he accidentally told one of those radio stations — KQRS — that he’d spoken directly with Gov. Abercrombie about the Obama birth certificate.

“I was on 34 radio stations that morning. That was the only station where I said, instead of saying ‘the hospital said there’s no birth certificate’ I misspoke and said Neil said that,” Evans said. “I misspoke and I apologize for that. I apologize to Neil.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/26/celebrity-journalist-says-he-never-talked-hawaii-governor-obama-birth/

Governor Jindal’s parent’s came here on student visas and he was born six months after his mother arrived in the US.

At the moment of his birth were his parents committed to staying in the US?

Senator Rubio’s parents returned to Cuba on several occasions for brief stints to examine what life was like under Castro before they returned to the United States.

Had the Bay of Pigs been successful, would they have returned to Cuba?

Neither question matters as both Senator Rubio and Governor Jindal are “natural born Citizens”, just as the Founders intended.


134 posted on 05/24/2012 11:34:56 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: BigGuy22

Show some respect, BOZO!


135 posted on 05/24/2012 11:46:05 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: 4Zoltan
You went to a lot of work just to verify that you believe the liberal spin on everything. [Unless all that is available in cut and paste form on a Obot site, which case it wasn't much work at all.] I'm not a moonbat, so the liberal spin means nothing to me. I've looked at all the statements and the myriad anomalies, and added that to Obama’s relentless mendacity. I do not believe the liberal spin on any of it. What I see is a man who either lied or told the truth about being born in Kenya. He obviously had a birth registered w HI by some means or other. Was he born in either place?

I have no idea.

I do know that he was born w divided loyalties. He is a half-foreigner, and has even been helpful enough to inform us that he sides w his foreign half over his American half. He is the mirror opposite of what the Framers intended by NBC.

I've said this exact same thing to you too many times to go on repeating it. You cannot make a case that the Framers WANTED men w divided loyalties in the highest office in the land. You simply can't do it—and you cannot argue from Obama’s actions in office that the Framers' fears were misguided. He is living proof of their foresight and wisdom.

136 posted on 05/24/2012 11:47:12 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: MrShoop

If the elected officials in Hawaii are all Democrats, why is it so hard to believe that they are lying to protect their President? They have lied for less in the past.


137 posted on 05/24/2012 11:51:21 AM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: 4Zoltan; BigGuy22
When controversial issues arise and facts need to be determined, one looks to sources that are not closely associated with either side of the controversy.

BigGuy22 says your post is worthless.

138 posted on 05/24/2012 11:53:32 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Brown Deer

“Show some respect, BOZO!”
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LOL, that’s your idea of a logical argument?!


139 posted on 05/24/2012 11:58:45 AM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: TigersEye

“When controversial issues arise and facts need to be determined, one looks to sources that are not closely associated with either side of the controversy.”

‘BigGuy22 says your post is worthless.’

Omc! I’m laughing like Clinton at Ron Brown’s funeral! Too funny!


140 posted on 05/24/2012 12:03:08 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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