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Who Are The Seven RINOs That Voted Against Banning Sex-Selective Abortions?
America's Conservative News ^ | 06/01/2012 | America's Conservative News

Posted on 06/01/2012 12:02:30 PM PDT by ElIguana

ACN Staff) The House of Representatives failed to pass a bill that would ban sex selective abortions on Thursday. Although a majority voted in favor of the bill (246-168), the measure reqired a two-thirds majority vote to pass. Many may be under the impression that the final vote tally was along party lines; however 20 Democrats actually voted in favor of the ban and shockingly, seven Republicans votes against banning sex selective abortions. Those Republicans were...

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; prolife; ronpaul; sexselection
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Ron Paul - We’re not supposed to nationalize these problems. The founders were very clear that problems like this, if there needs to be legislation of sorts, the state has the right to write the legislation that they so choose. And that solves a lot of our problems.”

So, the states should be allowed to decide who is and isn't a person?

Should the states be allowed to declare blacks "non-persons"? That was tried once and the result was a disaster.

What about Jews, can they be declared "non-persons"? Europe tried that a while back and it was also a disaster.

In signing the Personhood Pledge, however, Paul issued an “addendum” in which he reiterated his position that life begins at conception, said he supported a human life amendment to the Constitution, but at the same time argued that the federal government should not interfere with the states in passing laws on abortion.

In other words, he is "personally opposed" to abortion, but thinks each state should decide for themselves.

41 posted on 06/01/2012 3:55:54 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Frankly, I thought PersonhoodUSA's pledge was sorely lacking. It didn't actually require the candidates to keep their own oath to provide equal protection for all, within the responsibilities of their own office.

I made my dissatisfaction about this known to their leadership. In my opinion the whole exercise accomplished nothing except to give candidates "personhood" credentials who didn't deserve them.

Here is a real resolution, with substance and teeth, and it applies to all, not just presidential candidates:


http://www.equalprotectionforposterity.com/index.html 

The Equal Protection for Posterity Resolution

A Resolution affirming vital existing constitutional protections for the unalienable right to life of every innocent person, from the first moment of creation until natural death.

WHEREAS, The first stated principle of the United States, in its charter, the Declaration of Independence, is the assertion of the self-evident truth that all men are created equal, and that they are each endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, beginning with the right to life, and that the first purpose of all government is to defend that supreme right; and

WHEREAS, The first stated purposes of We the People of the United States in our Constitution are “to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity”; and

WHEREAS, The United States Constitution, in the Fourteenth Amendment, imperatively requires that all persons within the jurisdictions of all the States be afforded the equal protection of the laws; and

WHEREAS, The United States Constitution, in the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments, explicitly forbids the taking of the life of any innocent person; and

WHEREAS, The practices of abortion and euthanasia violate every clause of the stated purposes of the United States Constitution, and its explicit provisions; and

WHEREAS, Modern science has demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that the individual human person’s physical existence begins at the moment of biological inception or creation; and

WHEREAS, All executive, legislative and judicial Officers in America, at every level and in every branch, have sworn before God to support the United States Constitution as required by Article VI of that document, and have therefore, because the Constitution explicitly requires it, sworn to protect the life of every innocent person;

THEREFORE, WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES HEREBY RESOLVE that the God-given, unalienable right to life of every innocent person, from biological inception or creation to natural death, be protected everywhere within every state, territory and jurisdiction of the United States of America; that every officer of the judicial, legislative and executive departments, at every level and in every branch, is required to use all lawful means to protect every innocent life within their jurisdictions; and that we will henceforth deem failure to carry out this supreme sworn duty to be cause for removal from public office via impeachment or recall, or by statutory or electoral means, notwithstanding any law passed by any legislative body within the United States, or decision of any court, or decree of any executive officer, at any level of governance, to the contrary.

Sign the Resolution ...

 

42 posted on 06/01/2012 4:32:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Party like it's 1860.- America's Party - www.SelfGovernment.US)
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To: EternalVigilance
Frankly, I thought PersonhoodUSA's pledge was sorely lacking. It didn't actually require the candidates to keep their own oath to provide equal protection for all, within the responsibilities of their own office.

The problem with the GOP is that, other than a few notable exceptions, Republicans have been paying lip service to the pro-life movement ever since Roe v. Wade.

The GOP seems to think they can claim to be pro-life in order to get votes, but they have no intention of doing anything about it once they are in office.

In reality, the GOP treats the pro-life movement the same way the Democrats treat Blacks and other minorities.

43 posted on 06/01/2012 4:46:27 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Yep.


44 posted on 06/01/2012 4:53:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Party like it's 1860.- America's Party - www.SelfGovernment.US)
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To: wagglebee
In reality, the GOP treats the pro-life movement the same way the Democrats treat Blacks and other minorities.

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Yes, and also, the GOP and Democrats see we "social conservatives" in much the same way. How often have we been looked down on with disdain by "fiscal conservatives"?

Ron Paul's devotees are, like him, libertarians, with all that implies.

45 posted on 06/01/2012 4:57:12 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: LibertarianLiz
Nope. But, where in the Constitution does it give the FedGov the power to have ANY say in this whatsoever?

Roe V Wade needs to go and the FedGov needs to stop interfering with the States ability to ban abortion.

Anything else requires an Amendment.

46 posted on 06/01/2012 5:06:28 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: EternalVigilance
You keep trotting that penumbra out, but MURDER statutes are a State power.

Don't distort the Constitution to fit your goal. Liberals do that...

47 posted on 06/01/2012 5:09:40 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: svcw
Well... Wrong. On all counts. But thanks for playing.

All of you people willing to do the LIBERAL thing by ignoring the Constitutions express limits on Federal power are kinda missing the point.

Pass an Amendment or let the States handle it under Murder laws. As it should be.

48 posted on 06/01/2012 5:13:18 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: trisham

“Ron Paul’s devotees are, like him, libertarians, with all that implies.”

You mean principled and unwilling to flush the Constitution for expediency?

http://www.l4l.org/


49 posted on 06/01/2012 5:15:58 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Dead Corpse

Paul’s voting record is as I stated and not one of those is pro-life - not one.


50 posted on 06/01/2012 5:16:08 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Dead Corpse

No.


51 posted on 06/01/2012 5:17:28 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: svcw
Every one of those is a Pro-Constitution stand. Each keeps the express limits in Art 1 Sec 8 firmly in mind.

You don't shit can the Republic just because you want some piece of feel good legislation passed.

Over turn Roe V Wade. Pass a Pro-life Amendment. Then see how people like Paul vote.

52 posted on 06/01/2012 5:18:16 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: svcw

Agreed.


53 posted on 06/01/2012 5:18:44 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Ron Paul is a self-serving politician. Nothing more.


54 posted on 06/01/2012 5:19:56 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Dead Corpse
"No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
55 posted on 06/01/2012 5:20:59 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Party like it's 1860.- America's Party - www.SelfGovernment.US)
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To: trisham

So, “damn the Constitution! Pass our bill...” is how you prefer to get things done?

Doesn’t matter if it’s effective, what other parts of the Constitution is violates, or if it has serious consequences in the hands of our political enemies?

Yeah... That works out well. :-|


56 posted on 06/01/2012 5:22:22 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: EternalVigilance
Which only applies to Courts and Congress. Only by stretching into Commerce clause realms of "penumbra" and "emanations" do you come even close to making sense.

You've had this pointed out to you before. You weren't right then. You aren't right now.

57 posted on 06/01/2012 5:23:50 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: trisham

They all are. Paul’s main concern has always been Art 1 Sec 8. His record bears this out.


58 posted on 06/01/2012 5:24:50 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: LibertarianLiz

he is a libertarian first pro life second.


59 posted on 06/01/2012 5:26:41 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Which only applies to Courts and Congress.

Nonsense. Every officer of government in this country, at every level, in every branch, is required to swear to support the Constitution of the United States.

Article VI:

“The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution..."

60 posted on 06/01/2012 5:32:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Party like it's 1860.- America's Party - www.SelfGovernment.US)
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