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Obama's family fraudulent identity.
Myself | June 11, 2012 | Myself

Posted on 06/11/2012 5:41:04 AM PDT by plenipotentiary

Both Barack Obama II and Stanley Ann Dunham are invented personas.

A male child was born, probably son of Malcolm X and an unknown woman possibly Jo Ann Newman (per Martha Trowbridge). The childs father knew his days were numbered so to protect his only son he arranged with his Muslim and Communist contacts, to have him brought up in Indonesia under the protection of President Sukarno. He was a member of the Presidents extended family and under the direct protection of a high ranking Indonesian special forces officer, Pak Lolo Soetoro (which was probably not his real name). Soetoro did have a wife, and Obama believed her to be his mother, but she was not.

Sukarno was removed from power in March 1967.

In 1971, Obama II was moved to Hawaii, at that point the character of Stanley Ann Dunham was created (the birth certificate they use is illegible and that indicates that it does not support the created identity, and therefor everything after that in her story is also false) to allow a connection with communist agents, the Dunham family, and allow Obama II to be mentored in Communism by Frank Marshall Davis. The Dunhams probably had a son called Stanley Armour Dunham Junior (fate unknown). They initially changed the first names to Shirley Ann, and then ridiculously to Stanley Ann Dunham. SAD was never in Seattle, Why would she go to University there and take a night school or correspondance course)

Obama I was introduce briefy as Obama II's fake father. There probably was a real son of Obama I, but he was sidelined (maybe the Roman Obama who was stranded in KGB training school in Moscow)and the person we now know as Barack Obama II took his identity.

Obama II is a creature of the KGB and the Muslim Brotherhood, who both share aims to impose their way of life on the USA.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birtherism; fraud; malcolmx; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamahistory; stanley; vettingobama
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To: Greenperson

PSSST...don't tell anyone, but I could make you a SAD graduation image if I was at the U of WA in 1961-1962 and had a number of photographs taken wearing my sweater and pearls, and chose one of them to appear in the yearbook. (But it's a secret and you mustn't tell anyone, and I'm fully expecting someone to write in now and try to tell me that SAD didn't graduate from the U of WA, so how come I've got an image of her from the TYEE? LOL!)

351 posted on 06/18/2012 8:11:06 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fantasywriter

FW,
I’ve sent you a PM.


352 posted on 06/18/2012 8:21:59 PM PDT by sijay
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To: MHGinTN

Obot, you forgot to explain why you were shilling for Barry.


353 posted on 06/18/2012 11:59:45 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Fred Nerks; philman_36; David

(I forgot to ping David)

David, philman_36,FredNerks

P.M. are welcome, in regard to the ‘real mom’ and the ‘extended family.


354 posted on 06/19/2012 12:10:59 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: sijay

Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you for the heads up. I’d have completely missed the PM otherwise.

You have a PM waiting.


355 posted on 06/19/2012 12:17:27 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fred Nerks
"These people are being concealed for a reason..."

And you are asking that he place their names here?
Sure! Why not place their name/surname here? Lot's of things have been suggested/proposed here, haven't they?
Hasn't it even been proposed that FMD is his father? So why not place the name of "these people" here?

Are we adults here or children playing games?
Damn good question! A child plays hide and seek, not adults.

356 posted on 06/19/2012 6:36:08 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks

I didn’t notice before that every woman in that photo has on a sweater and pearls! The things we miss that are staring us in the face. So have you determined which body was snatched? The photo of SAD is supposed to be SAD at Mercer, isn’t it? So why wearing the uniform of U of WA?


357 posted on 06/19/2012 6:56:19 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Plummz

You lack the intelligence to use alinskyesque methodology so try something else, pitiful. But let me be more specific so you have a chance at catching on: You’re not smart enough to freeze the target and isolate it, pitiful.


358 posted on 06/19/2012 7:36:30 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Greenperson

Where else were the fraudsters going to get a picture for the approximate age they were trying to portray? It should be dawning on folks by now that everything about the little barry bastard commie in the White Hut shouts his father’s nature: he is a liar and a murderer from the start, just like his spiritual father. He is a criminal fraud and not a born citizen of this nation, so he is not nor should he ever be eligible for the presidency. But he is the perfect democrat, as a liar and criminal fraud, so he was their golden child. But his gold leaf has worn away and the rotten liar at the core is now exposed for all the world to see. He will be shucked aside by the criminal enterprise party, the only question now is who will they stand up to take his place for the election scams?


359 posted on 06/19/2012 7:42:05 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Greenperson

The one snatched into the page, if I had to guess based upon the placement anomolies int he string of frames, would be the sixth from left to right in the third row, but that means the alphabetical location of the Dunham would be shuffled also.


360 posted on 06/19/2012 7:46:12 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

I can guess the answer to who’s next, but I prefer not to even imagine that possibility.


361 posted on 06/19/2012 7:50:53 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Fantasywriter

I think the worst thing about Trowbridge is her ability to present theories without the slightest shred of evidence. Her stories don’t hang together from one to the next. Since her blog is now protected, nobody can prove that; but it’s nevertheless true. The timelines don’t fit. It’s a waste of time to bother to read her exclusive finds when there’s no way to replicate or verify her information. Teases are the tactics of Alinsky acolytes, yellow journalists, or tabloids. Research the woman herself and you will find some interesting attributes.


362 posted on 06/19/2012 7:55:53 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Greenperson

I don’t think it would be the hillary because she is looking ‘over the hill’, she would have the constant distraction of the bill degenerate the sick media would be clamoring to hear from, and the globalist power mongers want a younger more malliable shill, kind of in the frame of an alternate little barry bastard who would be less inclined to default to the communism at his core since he would not have a history of communist upbringing and assistance. Look to a democrat governor with as yet a low profile, or perhaps a working secretary of state for a bluish state.


363 posted on 06/19/2012 7:56:28 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: philman_36

Private investigators don’t generally alert the subjects of the investigation as to their findings and the tracks they’re following. Kind of like telling the enemy your plans, routes, and so on. Makes total sense to me. 0thugga’s hires are all over FR and these threads in particular. Anything posted here is known by them right away, that’s why so many original sources have been scrubbed within hours or even minutes in some cases, of having links posted on FR.


364 posted on 06/19/2012 8:10:44 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Well and truly stated ... and those bastards think nothing of erasing a person or family to protect their positions of power.


365 posted on 06/19/2012 8:14:14 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: plenipotentiary

thank you for thread!


366 posted on 06/19/2012 8:31:58 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: MHGinTN; GregNH; Fred Nerks; Greenperson

Does the pic of SADO with pearls and sweater appear anywhere in that UofWA yearbook?
What does the pic metadata say?


367 posted on 06/19/2012 8:40:42 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

It would be interesting to see the page with surnames beginning with “O”.


368 posted on 06/19/2012 8:48:01 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Greenperson
Thank you for that analysis. I very much appreciated your informed views. I've just started looking into Trowbridge, so I'm at the front of the learning curve.

One thing that stands out immediately: she is starting a cult. This is clear due to the attitude she instills in her followers toward (2) anyone who disagrees w her/them, and (2) any facts or evidence that contradicts her theory. She is inculcating her acolytes [great word, btw; props] against any info that might inform them of the weaknesses/inaccuracies in her theory. Once she has them b u l l e t-proofed against any intrusion of actual facts, she has them for life.

369 posted on 06/19/2012 9:15:39 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

I don’t know about any cult or, especially, having people “for life;” but it doesn’t take much looking to see that her continually changing stories don’t fit together. It’s not as if she writes as speculation or hypothesis. She writes as if it’s fact. Good luck analyzing her work; unless you register, you won’t know her latest offering.


370 posted on 06/19/2012 9:55:07 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Greenperson
I did find extended quotes from her, but they weren't on her website. A blog quoted her material, and then analyzed what she was saying. I found it helpful, though I didn't really need a blogger’s translation. I got the gist of it simply by reading her lengthy quotes.

I did find the absence of Trowbridge videos on Youtube odd. She has a radio show, correct? I wonder why no one has recorded segments from it and posted them. I really wanted to hear her voice, and listen to the way she speaks. I didn't get that opportunity, regrettably.

371 posted on 06/19/2012 10:00:47 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: little jeremiah
Private investigators don’t generally alert the subjects of the investigation as to their findings and the tracks they’re following.
Ummm...why would a "private" investigator wait all of this time to divulge the information to their client?
And as explosive as such information could be what client in their right mind wouldn't want to 'cash in' (euphemistically speaking of course) on such information once it was known?

Sorry, your theory doesn't wash with me.

You're not talking about Arpaio and his investigation, are you? You did say "private" investigator.

372 posted on 06/19/2012 10:04:39 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fantasywriter

Are you avoiding the questions about phoning the Mercer Island libraries?


373 posted on 06/19/2012 10:10:13 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: little jeremiah
...many original sources have been scrubbed...

BTW, what do you mean by "original sources"?

An original source, in my mind, is something physical, not something posted on the web as opinion, speculation or outright lie.
It would physically exist outside of the Internet and couldn't be "scrubbed". Only its reference on the Internet could be scrubbed.

374 posted on 06/19/2012 10:16:27 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

You are right.

Plus screencaps and printouts of the online version of the original source can be kept. (Find point in time where they agree with one another)

Then if the online info gets scrubbed, there’s a backup to a) prove the material and b) show the scrubbing.


375 posted on 06/19/2012 10:47:35 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: MHGinTN

You forgot to explain why you’re trying to construct a narrative to make Barry an NBC. Give it up, Obot.


376 posted on 06/19/2012 11:41:38 AM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Plummz

See post 359 ... if you need help comprehending what is written there, seek help. And take your medication, you’re starting to babble irrationally.


377 posted on 06/19/2012 12:27:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

In addition to his other motive, he seems to be trying to get the thread pulled and to make real researchers and serious posters look crazy.


378 posted on 06/19/2012 12:37:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: philman_36

By original sources I meant both physical data and sources available on the internet, both kinds. Both kinds have been deleted, scrubbed, pulled, etc after info about them appears on FR or other sites.

This has happened numerous times.

For instance, the example of the fact that no library or archive owned by the Honolulu Star Bulletin contains issues of the newspaper that allegedly had the birth announcement. Although apparently they used to. Or the DOH evil clown stuff. Or libraries in other places. There are numerous other examples.


379 posted on 06/19/2012 12:56:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: philman_36

Ummm...why would a “private” investigator wait all of this time to divulge the information to their client?
And as explosive as such information could be what client in their right mind wouldn’t want to ‘cash in’ (euphemistically speaking of course) on such information once it was known?


The subject, or rather subjects, of the investigation is the guy in the White House and everyone connected to his real identity and those who helped provide cover and lies to promote the fake identity. Obviously ongoing research, if made public, would alert these subjects to the avenues being looked at, how much is known, and so on. Leading to the erasure of information, and perhaps real harm to some people.

The “clients” - there are none, that would mean someone is paying for the research. The research is being done as a public service, and results are shared with those who can and are doing something about it. It is ongoing.


Sorry, your theory doesn’t wash with me.


It’s not “my theory”, it’s the simple truth, very simple and obvious.


380 posted on 06/19/2012 1:02:14 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: WildHighlander57

There is no image of Stanley Ann Dunham in the U of WA yearbooks.
I think the original version of the image of her with sweater and pearls appeared here:

http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=output.cfm&file_id=8897

If you can locate the pic metadata please forward. Take a good look at the sources quoted at the bottom of the article.


381 posted on 06/19/2012 1:58:17 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: little jeremiah
The “clients” - there are none, that would mean someone is paying for the research.
Then there would be no "private" investigators. They don't work for free.

The research is being done as a public service, and results are shared with those who can and are doing something about it.
The research is being done by whom? Citizen journalists?
It obviously isn't being done by a PI as you say as nobody is getting paid and I know of no PI's who do anything for free. They expect to get paid for any work they do.

382 posted on 06/19/2012 2:01:03 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Then there would be no “private” investigators. They don’t work for free.


The researchers are volunteers. Spending their own money, their own time, their own energy. That is the fact. If someone was paying them, they’d be able to do more. They are private people, investigating, that’s what I meant.

And even professional private investigators don’t reveal all their findings and sources publicly until the time is right.


383 posted on 06/19/2012 2:11:29 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: WildHighlander57; little jeremiah
Plus screencaps and printouts of the online version of the original source can be kept.
Which is exactly how much of such nefarious actions have been exposed.

We found this and "lo and behold" now that it's been seen by some in the public it simply isn't there any more.

Kind of like the recent Kenyan born bio discovered with the publisher.
That printed material still physically exists somewhere and taking it off the Web doesn't make it disappear, it only makes it less accessible. The same with the newspapers and yearbooks. They're out there somewhere, they simply have to be located.

384 posted on 06/19/2012 2:11:55 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

It stands to reason that reserachers want to keep info where it is still easily visible, as money may not be available to do on the ground footwork, and printed material is also then removed. Look at the Mercer Island yearbooks - none can be found. Probably before people were asking difficult questions the yearbooks might have been able to be located.


385 posted on 06/19/2012 2:18:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
The researchers are volunteers.
Well then why did you interject the aspect of PI's in reply 364? This is what you said then...

Private investigators don’t generally alert the subjects of the investigation as to their findings and the tracks they’re following.

So if your "private investigators" are actually volunteers then I see no reason why they wouldn't come forward with anything they've found either.

Take the issue of Fast and Furious as an example. Mike Vanderboegh and David Codrea were "volunteer researchers" and they 'showed their hand' when they found out what was going on. Were they wrong in going public with what they had found out even though it wasn't "the whole kit and kaboodle"?
Obviously not. The same thing, IMO, applies here.

386 posted on 06/19/2012 2:20:48 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah
Look at the Mercer Island yearbooks - none can be found.
I would stipulate that none can be found from a source freely available to the public.
I simply can't believe that every single yearbook was collected and/or destroyed. How many students went to that school? Every book purchased for that year by every 9th-12th grade student just magically disappeared? Even every yearbook for each of the years she went to Mercer suddenly disappears? I just don't buy it. The key is "freely available to the public".

And the same thing applies with the publisher. I can still go and get a copy printed of my yearbook despite having graduated over 30 years ago.
Did the yearbook publisher destroy all of their originals? Or do they expect to get paid for a copy or get paid not print any copies?

387 posted on 06/19/2012 2:36:33 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

When I said private investigators I mean private individuals who are investigating, I wasn’t trying to be deceitful, just being literal.

I assume that those investigating F and F have not made public every jot and tittle of the results of their research; just as those investigating this topic have not; but the researchers looking into the identity and background of Zero certainly have revealed a lot on FR. A tremendous amount, actually. And if you don’t see the logic of not laying their complete hand of cards face side up on the table when they’re still reseraching, I can’t explain it any more clearly.

Plus, this issue in a great deal deeper, years longer in the making, more people involved and much more complex than F and F. And much more more nefarious. Without this, F and F would never have happened.


388 posted on 06/19/2012 2:37:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: philman_36; little jeremiah
...Private investigators don’t generally alert the subjects of the investigation as to their findings and the tracks they’re following.

You are badgering the witness. I am sure what the freeper meant by that comment was a simple analogy. Why are you trying to make a bunfight out of it?

389 posted on 06/19/2012 2:40:49 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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Oops...get paid not to print any copies?
390 posted on 06/19/2012 2:41:24 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

I really thought you were somewhat more perceptive than you have shown yourself to be. It was the original commenter who said ‘these people are being concealed for a reason’ and I daresay you will receive a reply if the commenter feels so inclined. The fact that he hasn’t so far, indicates to me he meant what he said in his original comment. CONCEALED.
Just what is it you are asking for? A full report of the efforts of ten people over two years of research, laid out here so that the results can be trashed by the pondscum supporters of the dark side - and save you the time and trouble of doing a little more than your presence here shows?

It’s gimmie gimmie what you know, that’s all. Why should they? The results are being sent where they will do the most good. And when the SHTF then you’ll read about it here.

Sorry to be so blunt, but your attitude makes me angry.


391 posted on 06/19/2012 2:56:01 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Why are you trying to make a bunfight out of it?
What I'm trying to do is get a clear understanding of what's being said.

If you choose to see that as a "bunfight" then go right ahead.

392 posted on 06/19/2012 3:01:54 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks
And when the SHTF then you’ll read about it here.
Good. Great! WOO-HOO!

I've been waiting for the S to HTF for some time and I'm still waiting despite "the efforts of ten people over two years of research".

Perhaps if they had been more open with their research it wouldn't have taken so long and people of note (like Congress) would have undertaken a more serious stance by now.

A last second 'hail Mary' hardly seems a prudent course of action.

393 posted on 06/19/2012 3:08:18 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

How would D Day have worked if the Allies had publicized their plans so the Germans knew exactly what they were about?


394 posted on 06/19/2012 3:14:49 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: MHGinTN; Greenperson
The one snatched into the page, as you wrote, doesn't exist in the U of WA yearbook. There is only an image of her created to fit here:

Which is the image presented to show Stanley Ann Dunham in a graduation image related to Mercer Island.

395 posted on 06/19/2012 3:15:19 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: philman_36

lj:

Look at the Mercer Island yearbooks - none can be found.
I would stipulate that none can be found from a source freely available to the public.


I simply can’t believe that every single yearbook was collected and/or destroyed. How many students went to that school? Every book purchased for that year by every 9th-12th grade student just magically disappeared? Even every yearbook for each of the years she went to Mercer suddenly disappears? I just don’t buy it. The key is “freely available to the public”.

And the same thing applies with the publisher. I can still go and get a copy printed of my yearbook despite having graduated over 30 years ago.
Did the yearbook publisher destroy all of their originals? Or do they expect to get paid for a copy or get paid not print any copies?


All I know is that researchers have not been able to locate any existing Mercer Island yearbooks, I didn’t say that none exist in the world. If you have some ideas, why not post your ideas or try to find one yourself? I do not remember all the different ways they tried, but they tried a number of ways to find one; IIRC the public library, school library and perhaps an ad in the paper were tried; I do not know for certain but assume some former students were asked. Maybe someone who knows more might say. I don’t know what you mean about paying/not paying. I don’t know how they would know the publisher without having a copy to look at.


396 posted on 06/19/2012 3:19:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Fred Nerks; David
It was the original commenter who said ‘these people are being concealed for a reason’ ...
Here is what was said...(courtesy ping, David)

But his true mother and her extended family in the US are at this point, a significant part of the effort that has made him a political figure. These people are being concealed for a reason.

Who is doing the concealing? Is it the Kenyan son hiding his past or is it David and some friends of his concealing what they know so that it's a surprise to all when it's announced?

...and I daresay you will receive a reply if the commenter feels so inclined.

It appears David hasn't been inclined and I doubt he will be in the future.

And why the wait to announce what is supposedly known? I can understand Arpaio waiting to maximize the potential press coverage, but "earth-shattering news" of the parentage of this pathological liar would bump everything else out of the spotlight.

It just doesn't make sense.

397 posted on 06/19/2012 3:21:01 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah
How would D Day have worked if the Allies had publicized their plans so the Germans knew exactly what they were about?
They did publicize their plans. They even leaked it to known German spies.
That's why the German troops were held in reserve at the Pas-de-Calais.

Oh, wait...that was a lie. Never mind.

398 posted on 06/19/2012 3:25:36 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

GIMMIE GIMMIE. GIMMIE WHAT YOU HAVE.

I notice you didn’t ask if there was anything you could do to help. There are still openings. Perhaps you could find an Indonesian speaker, for example, there’s some stuff that needs to be translated.

If you want that rock moved off the road so you can pass, you don’t wait for someone else to move it, you do it yourself.


399 posted on 06/19/2012 3:26:31 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: little jeremiah
BTW, I also firmly believe that after Italy and the Dieppe Raid Rommel knew exactly what the Allies were planning due to his increased defense building at Normandy.
He just couldn't convince Hitler to change his mind and believe that Normandy would be the actual landing zone.
400 posted on 06/19/2012 3:33:27 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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