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Poll Americans may approve legislative power being exercised by president (immigration policy).
6-23-12 | johnwk

Posted on 06/23/2012 9:11:21 AM PDT by JOHN W K

This is very scary! It appears that Americans approve by a 2 to 1 majority to allow the president to enforce his own law regarding immigration policy! See: Poll Shows 2-1 Support of Immigration Policy

“By more than a 2-to-1 ratio, Americans favor the Obama administration’s new immigration policy, according to a Bloomberg poll released on Tuesday.”

But Article VI of our Constitution states This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof… shall be the supreme Law of the Land … The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution

Our wise founding fathers intended by these words to insure a system of government requiring consent of the governed, which includes our Constitution’s amendment process that allows for change and the granting of new powers to those we elect, but only with consent of the governed as outlined in Article V and requires consent by the “Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof.”

Keep in mind that our president has recently acknowledged he has no power to ignore laws of the United States passed by Congress and set his own public policy as applied to aliens, because Article 1,Section 1 of our Constitution commands that: All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Obama’s confirmation of this fact is documented in Obama: 'I need a dance partner' on immigration reform

"The idea of doing things on my own is very tempting, I promise you, not just on immigration reform. But that's not how our system works. That's not how our democracy functions," Obama told the National Council of La Raza…. Obama defended his administration's approach to deportations "I swore an oath to uphold the laws on the books. That doesn't mean I don't know very well the real pain and heartbreak that deportations cause. I share your concerns and I understand them," he said Monday. "We work every day to make sure we are enforcing flawed laws in the most humane possible way."

And in spite of knowing and publicly acknowledging he “swore an oath to uphold the laws on the books”, Obama has chosen to engage in a despotic act of setting his own public policy regarding aliens which defies and runs counter to the “Laws of the United States” duly passed by Congress which are the “supreme Law of the Land“! In so doing, Obama has not only proposed to engaged in an act of tyranny, but is asking every public servant in his Administration who took an oath to support our Constitution and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof, to join him in his act of tyranny by enforcing his personal ambitions regarding aliens.

And so, Obama’s actions prompts a very important question. Will our public servants be loyal to Obama’s tyranny and enforce his arbitrary decree which runs counter to legislative acts duly passed by Congress, or will they be loyal to the American People and the oath of office which they took to support and defend our Constitution?

JWK

" I believe that there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations."___ Madison, Elliot`s Debates, vol. III, page 87


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: act; dream; immigration; obama

1 posted on 06/23/2012 9:11:32 AM PDT by JOHN W K
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To: JOHN W K

If you approve of this man making his own laws, you must remember this old saying.

Give this Mother helper an inch and he will take a mile.

Give him another 4 years and we won;t have a country any of us will recognise.


2 posted on 06/23/2012 9:17:03 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: JOHN W K

High fives all round for ‘political science’ teachers who have delivered Constitutional ignorance and Marxism in equal measure.


3 posted on 06/23/2012 9:17:40 AM PDT by relictele
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To: JOHN W K

How many illegals were included in the polled population?


4 posted on 06/23/2012 9:18:02 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: JOHN W K

How many of those polled are likely voters?


5 posted on 06/23/2012 9:21:09 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Obama.....He's got your back (pocket) so he can steal your wallet.)
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To: JOHN W K

More importantly....we need to kill all ideas of Illegal Alien Amnesty

Obama’s move is illegal....but too many upset with his move still want the ultimate outcome...which is Illegal Alien Amnesty

I bet if Bush did something like this, say, for eliminating the Global Warming Hoax....these people supporting Obama executive rule would be against Bush doing the same


6 posted on 06/23/2012 9:22:20 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (When I said "close the borders", I did not mean the bookstore chain)
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To: JOHN W K

Executive Orders have their place, but not in this or any other Democratic administration.


7 posted on 06/23/2012 9:22:34 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: JOHN W K

Sorry, I was scared $#itless when he was elected. I’m dry.


8 posted on 06/23/2012 9:31:29 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: JOHN W K
That Bloomberg “poll” also showed Zippy in the lead 53-40. I don't think so.
9 posted on 06/23/2012 9:31:29 AM PDT by JPG (Don't just talk about it, make it happen.)
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To: JOHN W K
"It appears that Americans approve by a 2 to 1 majority to allow the president to enforce his own law regarding immigration policy!"

Similarly, a majority of Germans in the 1930's approved of Der Fuhrer's actions as the Third Reich gained power and strength. He built the autobahns, you know, and he spoke really well........

10 posted on 06/23/2012 9:36:44 AM PDT by Reo (the 4th Estate is a 5th Column)
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These polls are rigged by how the question is asked.


11 posted on 06/23/2012 9:36:44 AM PDT by kabar
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Bogus polls trying to force the non-thinking to conform to their agenda. Nothing to see here, move on.


12 posted on 06/23/2012 9:36:57 AM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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Poll was conducted where? LA? NY?


13 posted on 06/23/2012 9:40:23 AM PDT by citizencon
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To: Mechanicos
I agree...Polls NEW purpose is to "train the mind". TV has done its' fair share...thank you Ellen.

Pssst...Ellen...I will never buy cover up or shop at Penneys'.

14 posted on 06/23/2012 9:41:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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"President Obama announced that the U.S. would halt the deportation of some illegal immigrants if they came here before age 16, have been in the country for five years, have no criminal record, are in school or have a high school diploma or have been honorably discharged from the military. Do you agree or disagree with this new policy?" the poll asked.

The question fails to mention that these "children" can be up to age 30 and that they will be issued work permits while 23 million Americans are looking for fulltime employment. It also fails to mention that this is open-ended and that an estimated 1.4 million of these "children" can apply for the program.

The question also states a falsehood. The US military does not accept illegal aliens into the service. So how can these illegal aliens be honorably discharged from the military legally? They had to lie and use falsified documents to enter.

15 posted on 06/23/2012 9:43:31 AM PDT by kabar
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Oh a Bloomberg poll. Thats bond to be real accurate. Not!


16 posted on 06/23/2012 9:48:14 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Oh a Bloomberg poll. Thats bound to be real accurate. Not!


17 posted on 06/23/2012 9:48:53 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: JPG
That Bloomberg “poll” also showed Zippy in the lead 53-40. I don't think so.

I doubt the numbers are 2-1 but I don't doubt at all that a majority of Americans favored Obama's executive order. When we talk of immigrants brought over as infants and children, most Americans aren't banging on the tables for their deportations. Obama scored a huge coup on this issue and it's a shame the Republicans failed to address this issue legislatively.

Some people here need to step out of the Free Republic bubble and see the real world once in a while.

18 posted on 06/23/2012 9:55:03 AM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: kabar

“These polls are rigged by how the question is asked.”

Agreed. How about they re-word the question:

“Does Obama have the right to bypass congress and pass his own immigration laws granting amnesty to illegals?”

I suspect the results would be quite different.


19 posted on 06/23/2012 9:57:25 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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Serfs.


20 posted on 06/23/2012 10:41:49 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: ScottfromNJ
But what about the big question?

Will our public servants be loyal to Obama’s tyranny and enforce his arbitrary decree which runs counter to legislative acts duly passed by Congress, or will they be loyal to the American People and the oath of office which they took to support and defend our Constitution?

JWK

"To lay with one hand the power of the government on the property of the citizen and with the other to bestow upon favored individuals, to aid private enterprises and build up private fortunes [Obama’s Solyndra/Chevy Volt/Fisker swindling deals] is none the less a robbery because it is done under forms of law and called taxation."____ Savings and Loan Assc. v. Topeka,(1875).

21 posted on 06/23/2012 10:43:38 AM PDT by JOHN W K
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To: JOHN W K
It appears that Americans approve by a 2 to 1 majority to allow the president to enforce his own law regarding immigration policy!

You didn't really fall for this, did you!?? Bloomberg polls are notoriously wrong and feature either 'cooked' numbers or skewed questions designed to elicit a specific response. The end result is liberal propanganda that the DBM LOVES to print and quote!!

22 posted on 06/23/2012 11:02:23 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: JOHN W K

We should take a deep breath for a moment. This poll like the Rasmussen poll on the same matter did not ask whether people thought that a President should violate the constitution and over rule Congress which is an entirely different question also it does not clarify exactly what the policy really is. These polls are worthless and are just like gay marriage polls which are never correct when voters show up to vote for the exact same reason. The pollsters are dishonest in their questions and in reality they don’t want to find out what people really think instead they want the polls to make us just give up as well as cowardly Republicans. Don’t despair the immigration issue is not something the President is going to win on unless we surrender and that is exactly what they are trying to produce.


23 posted on 06/23/2012 12:33:29 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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Bull $h!+ !!!!!!!


24 posted on 06/23/2012 5:25:52 PM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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I don’t suppose any of those polled were unemployed, perhaps displaced by the “guest” workers which will now be legal to hire. Just wait until you see what they can do to entire industries. They virtually took over the construction industry in many states, owing to the lack of documentation needed to perform construction work, and the fact that they will do the job cheaper. Now they can move towards more legitimate industries, and service sectors, such as auto repair, computer repair, etc.


25 posted on 06/23/2012 9:42:04 PM PDT by krogers58
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