Posted on 06/24/2012 5:54:41 PM PDT by Borges
Some interesting choices with a Number 2 that I never heard of.
(Excerpt) Read more at mandatory.com ...
But I can think of a handful of people who didn't make the cut and should have: John Walker, Jerry Whitworth, to name two. Hiss, the Rosenburgs, practically anyone on the Verona list. Adam Gadahn and Major Nidal Hasan without a doubt. Not, however, punks like William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, who were second-raters at their top and are simply embarrassing now.
Indeed he did, but he could not be a traitor to it, since he never was a resident of any union state.
You want a traitor, go with Paul Revere.
“Anyone calling Robert E. Lee a ‘traitor’ has shit for brains”
Article 3, Section 3 of the constitution makes it very clear. Levying war against the United States is treason.
“370,000 United States soldier died in the war.”
Odd that you didn’t use the term ‘American’.
Of course Lee was a resident of a Union state ~ it was called Virginia. During the war a rump government was established in Northern Virginia, where the Lee residence is located (SEE: Arlington National Cemetery). The federal government didn’t ask their permission to buy Lee’s property at an open public auction ~ and it got standing in the Lee family suit to recover Arlington on that basis.
Lee was not a "traitor to his country". Lee considered his country to be Virginia. When Virginia seceded, Lee resigned his U.S. Army commission and followed Virginia. People in the U.S.A. tend to forget that the U.S. States were "States" in the truest sense of the word. At the time of the Civil War, people did not consider a "State" to be merely a division of the U.S.A.
And why pick Lee to put on the list out of the entire confederacy? And no, Lee did not command "the entire southern forces". He only commanded the Army of Northern Virginia; and that was only after its commander was gravely wounded. The author chose to include the most beloved and respected general out of the entire war. Where was John Wilkes Booth on the list? The list was total BS.
The war was over when Booth came along ~
“Of course Lee was a resident of a Union state ~ it was called Virginia. During the war a rump government was established in Northern Virginia, where the Lee residence is located (SEE: Arlington National Cemetery). The federal government didn’t ask their permission to buy Lee’s property at an open public auction ~ and it got standing in the Lee family suit to recover Arlington on that basis.”
Virginia voted to side with the confederacy not the union. Hence Lee as a resident could not be a traitor to the Union he fought against.
This is the argument the federal government advanced against my namesake who was the leader of the orphan brigade of Kentuckians.
Guess Huma can be added to the list along with BO.
Then why did R.E. Lee say this on 2 October 1965 after the war was over???
“I, Robert E. Lee of Lexington, Virginia, do solemnly swear in the presence of almighty God, that I will henceforth faithfully support, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and the Union of the states there under, and that I will, in like manner, abide by and faithfully support all laws and proclamation which have been made during the existing rebellion with reference to the emancipation of slaves, so help me God.”
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gabrantl/lee-amnestyoath.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_May
Congressman Andrew May (D) Kentucky.
During WWII he received a top secret briefing about how the Japanese were setting their depth charges too shallow to sink our submarines.
So he has a press conference and brags about it, the Japanese adjust their settings and we lost at least 10 submarines and their crews.
Maybe because of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that got passed the year before? LOL
On Aug 5, 1975, President Gerald Ford reinstated Robert E. Lee as a citizen of the US in good standing when Lee’s Oath of Allegiance was found in the National Archives (it had been “lost” since October of 1865 when Lee requested a pardon from the Johnson administration.
President Ford stated, “General Lee’s character has been an example to succeeding generations, making the restoration of his citizenship an event in which every American can take pride.”
Wiki says:
"Section 3 prohibits the election or appointment to any federal or state office of any person who had held any of certain offices and then engaged in insurrection, rebellion or treason. However, a two-thirds vote by each House of the Congress can override this limitation. In 1898, the Congress enacted a general removal of Section 3's limitation.[44]"
"In 1975, Robert E. Lee's citizenship was restored by a joint congressional resolution, retroactive to June 13, 1865.[45] In 1978, pursuant to Section 3, the Congress posthumously removed the service ban from Jefferson Davis.[46] "
At this time the United States invented its own version of Kabuki ~ a valuable asset later on in dealing with a conquered Japan.
A plain reading of the Constitution before it was buggered up by the 14th Amendment says that if you do what Lee did you are a traitor ~ it doesn't matter what your receiving country says, or where you were a resident ~ it involves "making war against the United States".
Now, since all you neo-confederates went into cahoots with Lincoln and the Unionists, we have the 14th and it lets just everybody, including Jane Fonda, off the hook.
BTW, the rump government in Northern Virginia DID NOT VOTE TO SECEDE
Why would President Ford give citizenship to an enemy of the United States?
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